Run Windowed Mode

CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
edited September 2011 in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">2.5x the FPS</div>While trying to fix my flickering issue (itermittant fault - see my topic on front screen of forums), I have found that running windowed mode actually INCREASES FPS, I go from about 45 > 120 (max settings) (single gpu)
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  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    I think that has been found before. But it really depends on the computer. For me it runs slightly slower... but well, its worth a try! what gpu do you have? and what operating system?
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  • Boxer`DBoxer`D Join Date: 2011-07-27 Member: 112532Members
    edited September 2011
    Yeah I have tried this before and it doesn't work. Just tried it again after reading this post and I actually get lower FPS, but at least it's a good trick for some PCs apparently.
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  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    I run windowed mode and it halves FPS... and half of 42 isn't great.
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  • TechnoMuffinTechnoMuffin Join Date: 2004-05-16 Member: 28713Members, Constellation
    Do you guys get like 40-45 in combat? Cause if so, I'm completely jealous.
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  • CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
    edited September 2011
    Its fast enuff, full specs are: (copied from a file I had)

    Intel i7 920 Genuine CPU @ 4.4Ghz (21x209) @ 1.35v
    12 GB Corsair GT Dominator DDR 2000 MHz RAM (6x4GB) CL8 @ 1.64v
    Asus P6T6 WS Revolution Motherboard with NF200 Chip supporting Tri SLI/CrossFire in 16x/16x/16x Configuration
    3x GTX470 GTX 1280, clocked to 850/607 Mhz core, 1700/1215 Mhz shader and 2000/1650 Mhz memory @ 1.150 vCore <- this is basically insane!
    Coolermaster 1100 UCP Power Supply
    2x Intel X25M 120GB SSDs (RAID 1)
    4x Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB HDDs (RAID 0)
    1x 1TB External HDD via eSATA
    Antec 1200 Full Chassis
    Blue Ray Burner
    Black Ice GTX360 Radiator
    Black Ice GTX240 Radiator
    3x EK FC GTX Back Plates
    3x GTX 470 Full Cover Blocks
    Apogee XT CPU Block
    2x 400ml EK Resevoir
    2x EK-DCP 4.4 Pumps
    1/2"Tubing with Feser Coolant
    10x 120mm Typhoon High Speed Fans
    3x Dell 22" Widescreen Flat Panel Screens runing 5040*1050 Resolution
    Logitech G500 Laser Mouse
    Logitech Illuminated Keyboard
    Logitech Mic
    Sennheiser HD595 Head Phones

    Cost to purchase and build, about £4000 in Dec '09 (was Tri 260SLi back then - Made money on the sale of the 260s (about £20+ on buying price))

    Looking to install 1 small neclear power plant and air conditioning units. I also wouldn't mind a sound proofed room
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  • CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1875892:date=Sep 20 2011, 09:47 PM:name=TechnoMuffin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TechnoMuffin @ Sep 20 2011, 09:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875892"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Do you guys get like 40-45 in combat? Cause if so, I'm completely jealous.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    In windowed mode, I dont drop below about 110 in combat,
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  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    You get 100+ FPS in NS2? Do you guys have unreleased hardware or something? What sort of hardware are you on?
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  • CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1875903:date=Sep 20 2011, 10:22 PM:name=konata)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (konata @ Sep 20 2011, 10:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875903"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You get 100+ FPS in NS2? Do you guys have unreleased hardware or something? What sort of hardware are you on?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think you might want to look up a few posts!
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Tell me, do you have a nuclear power plant in your attic, to be able to run that monster? :P
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  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1875894:date=Sep 20 2011, 09:48 PM:name=Cygone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cygone @ Sep 20 2011, 09:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875894"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In windowed mode, I dont drop below about 110 in combat,<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Get better fans like SilenX (18dB 154m3/h). Reduces noise alot when using 10! Fans.

    Window Mode doesn't change for me. 40-180 Fps depending of LOS and ents.
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  • CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1875917:date=Sep 20 2011, 10:47 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Sep 20 2011, 10:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875917"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Tell me, do you have a nuclear power plant in your attic, to be able to run that monster? :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Really? Do people not actually read everything on my 1st post?
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  • CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1875922:date=Sep 20 2011, 10:52 PM:name=Floodinator)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Floodinator @ Sep 20 2011, 10:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875922"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Get better fans like SilenX (18dB 154m3/h). Reduces noise alot when using 10! Fans.

    Window Mode doesn't change for me. 40-180 Fps depending of LOS and ents.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Its not the fans that make noise, its the air pressure moving through the radiators (they are both 60mm thick)
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  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1875893:date=Sep 20 2011, 10:47 PM:name=Cygone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cygone @ Sep 20 2011, 10:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875893"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Its fast enuff, full specs are: (copied from a file I had)

    Intel i7 920 Genuine CPU @ 4.4Ghz (21x209) @ 1.35v

    blablablabla ten-thousand GBs of RAM blablabla 1 million terabytes of HDD-space blablbla<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    For the FPS in NS2 the only really relevant component is the CPU, and it doesn't look as brilliantly as it needs to be to sustain 100+ FPS at all times. That is to say there doesn't really exists such a CPU (we'd be talking about sandybridges that must go in excess of 6GHz). I not be buying this!
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited September 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1875928:date=Sep 20 2011, 09:56 PM:name=Cygone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cygone @ Sep 20 2011, 09:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875928"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Really? Do people not actually read everything on my 1st post?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually I read the sixth post ;)
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    Running windowed mode usually gives me lower fps.
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  • CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1875936:date=Sep 20 2011, 11:10 PM:name=IeptBarakat)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IeptBarakat @ Sep 20 2011, 11:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875936"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Running windowed mode usually gives me lower fps.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And me usually, just for some reason this game is the other way around
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  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    Oh I apologise. I never noticed you had a $3k+ rig.
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  • CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
    edited September 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1875931:date=Sep 20 2011, 10:59 PM:name=player)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (player @ Sep 20 2011, 10:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875931"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->For the FPS in NS2 the only really relevant component is the CPU, and it doesn't look as brilliantly as it needs to be to sustain 100+ FPS at all times. That is to say there doesn't really exists such a CPU (we'd be talking about sandybridges that must go in excess of 6GHz). I not be buying this!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm close to a 100 most of the time, but it can drop to about 60ish in large battles with lots of stuff going on. 60FPS is fine for any FPS. Esp considering my monitors are 60Hz
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  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1875938:date=Sep 20 2011, 03:16 PM:name=Cygone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cygone @ Sep 20 2011, 03:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875938"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And me usually, just for some reason this game is the other way around<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I kind of wonder if this is due to your unusual setup (i.e. Tri SLI). Maybe try disabling SLI and seeing what FPS you get in fullscreen?
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  • SteinhauerSteinhauer Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72493Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1875893:date=Sep 20 2011, 03:47 PM:name=Cygone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cygone @ Sep 20 2011, 03:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875893"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Its fast enuff, full specs are: (copied from a file I had)
    (buncha crazy stuff)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Pic or it didn't happen. Actually, I just want the pictures... that is an insane setup!
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  • spinfusorspinfusor Join Date: 2011-09-20 Member: 122283Members
    Why not just run the game on a single monitor?
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  • basti1337basti1337 Join Date: 2011-05-13 Member: 98538Members
    Another "look at my hardware thread"... /applause
    lol @ tripple sli... just stupid...

    @topic
    users who don't have enough vram will experience fps drops while playing in windowed mode
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  • CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1876027:date=Sep 21 2011, 04:59 AM:name=basti1337)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basti1337 @ Sep 21 2011, 04:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876027"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Another "look at my hardware thread"... /applause
    lol @ tripple sli... just stupid...

    @topic
    users who don't have enough vram will experience fps drops while playing in windowed mode<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Though scaling is not where Dual SLI scaling is, its is usefull. This way I can SLI 2 cards and output to one screen, and have the other card output to 2 other monitors. This allows high frame rates on a single screen utalising SLI while still have 3 screens.

    The problem with nVidia surround is that if you run anything at a res of 1680/1050 the other two screen would shut off in surround, this way I can still SLI and have access to the other screens while palying anything single monitor.

    Prolly not explaining myself very well, sorry
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  • SpaZSpaZ Join Date: 2003-06-11 Member: 17256Members
    Cygone how bad is the micro-stuttering on your setup? I've heard that the third card actually removes some of the stutter, is this correct?
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  • CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
    edited September 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1876057:date=Sep 21 2011, 10:01 AM:name=SpaZ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SpaZ @ Sep 21 2011, 10:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876057"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Cygone how bad is the micro-stuttering on your setup? I've heard that the third card actually removes some of the stutter, is this correct?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I have 0 stutter either in 1, 2 or 3 card configurations. I have heard people complain about micro stutter in other games etc, but I can honestly say I have never experianced it, in any titles.
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  • SkymanderXSkymanderX Green Marine - The Few, The Proud, The Green. Join Date: 2011-07-29 Member: 113006Members
    honestly i've found it to be true. Running it full screen will cause all kinds of lag and bugs.
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  • KalabalanaKalabalana Join Date: 2003-11-14 Member: 22859Members
    Increased my ready room FPS to 100+, but in game is the same.
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  • LORFCASTERLORFCASTER Join Date: 2010-06-13 Member: 72049Members
    Cygon, you have TEN 120mm fans ? Or did i fail at understanding the format of your specifications post
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  • CygoneCygone Join Date: 2011-05-29 Member: 101528Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1876144:date=Sep 21 2011, 06:54 PM:name=LORFCASTER)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LORFCASTER @ Sep 21 2011, 06:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876144"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Cygon, you have TEN 120mm fans ? Or did i fail at understanding the format of your specifications post<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes,

    push/pull on both rads

    6 Fans on the 360 Rad
    4 Fans on the 240 Rad
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