<!--quoteo(post=1875627:date=Sep 19 2011, 06:00 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Sep 19 2011, 06:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875627"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I also had hax back then, they were called Sennheiser and MX500 (before that Mouseman) :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lol the OP was whining last night in the game we were in cause when I joined in Shiv had like 70-20 or something, a decent score, and Mokrash was losing really badly and wouldn't stop accusing people with more than 3:1 kdr of hacking
I came across a player today that had 145-160 latency while others had 50-80. This person I have never seen before and I have played against all sorts of "great NS2" players that I see on a day to day basis and none of them even compared to this guy. As a Lerk, I am sure you all know when a Lerk enters a room, especially 2 of them, the gas + the speed and fps rate makes it very hard to keep your bullets on the target. This guy no matter what I did, how I did it, every single bullet hit me (aimbot style). I could go up, down, fly around perfectly, circle him in gas, he should shoot his rifle and the entire clip hit me until I was either dead or down to 5% hp. The same thing happened when he got a shotgun, he would 2/3 shot the fades like they were nothing and aggressively enter the room with more than a enough confidence that he was going to slaughter everyone in there.
I called him out on the hax and he started to mock it and he had 1 or 2 other people backing him saying he was legit. I am sorry, he was not legit. I have been gaming competitively for a minimum of 10 years in games like cs1.6 playing on some of the best teams in the world. I know hackers when I see them, and players can defend the person all they want, the guy was an outright cheater. As I said before, I've seen all of in NS2 and I have been shot at by the "more hardcore regular" players and not one of them could keep up on my lerk like this guy did.
After I called him out on it, my computer crashed and my buddy was in there still and said the guy magically started to play like trash and was all of a sudden not able to land a shot if his life depended on it. So please tell me, how does a person go from 28 kills and 1 death in a matter of 15 minutes to complete trash and not able to land a machine/shotgun shot after he gets called out on it, toggle much?
Fact is, cheaters are cheaters, just because they pretend to be nice, doesn't mean they're legit. Also, just because they "have bad games" doesn't change the fact that they can toggle on and off whenever they please. Cheats do exist and let's be honest, it's not like we didn't expect this, it happens in every game, but it's good that we all expose the cheats at first sight to UWE, so they can tackle the problem as they continue to build the game.
<!--quoteo(post=1875449:date=Sep 18 2011, 07:45 PM:name=hood)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hood @ Sep 18 2011, 07:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875449"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->ns was full of a cheaters and scripters anyway and i expect no better for ns2<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
When I was in cs 1.6, there were some players that were considered the worlds best at a certain time, but on lan they were awful. Their understanding and knowledge of the game was amazing, but when it came to aiming the gun and making shots register, lacked. Pressure usually plays a role, but over time leagues and players started to spread the "config ######s".
My brother started to dig more in to the configging, he modded an entire config in cs 1.6 for me and we executed them in our cs dir. I swear to god, I was shooting awp shots an inch away from the person as they ran by and they would still die. You could spam the ak or colt around the outside of the body and all shots would register as a hit due to the configs tweaked out commands that sent to the server side.
I've also played on teams and against teams for months to years where an entire community assumed and absolutely believed the person was legit at the top tier levels of the game to find out, the player was a cheater and was caught red handed. It baffles me how blind sided people become, because they "know a person". Oh I know him, so my vote says he doesn't cheat, or he never has cheated! oh ok, then he's got to be legit then, because YOU said so.
Played Age of Conan for 3 years, it was a more skill based game, one guy in our guild was a cheater for the longest time, I always suspected it, newbier players would constantly cry and some better players on my team and from other guilds assumed the guy was legit. After we all quit the game, I said to him, I know you were cheating and he laughed, I know. The entire duration of playing the game, the guy cheated and so many people were convinced he was just that good, when in reality he was complete trash.
Just be more open minded people, it's the internet, everybody is fake and the monitor is our protection.
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I assume you're talking about me, Slithers, in which case I guess I should say thanks for the compliment. I'm not cheating now, nor did I cheat at any point during the eight or so years that I played NS at the top level. Considering I've played over 100 tournament games, some with several hundreds of spectators, with differing levels of anti cheat and demo recording, there really can't be much doubt that I'm legit. If you have any doubts, feel free to look at any demos of matches I've played in here: <a href="http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/match-history/" target="_blank">http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/match-history/</a>
I suggest you look at this: <a href="http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/" target="_blank">http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/</a>
Then watch this: <a href="http://www.ninelegends.com/files/index.php?dir=Movies/Hosted/&file=Fananation.rar" target="_blank">http://www.ninelegends.com/files/index.php...=Fananation.rar</a> (you may have to change the aspect ratio in your video player to 4:3)
Then watch this to see some of the most extreme stuff that's possible without cheating: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSXEUXSj55k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSXEUXSj55k</a>
NS2 is a pretty slow game compared to NS, especially the skulks, which makes aiming a lot easier in NS2. Hitting Lerks is laughably easy by comparison -- the NS lerk was more agile and didn't have to move in straight, predictable, lines to do damage. If it wasn't for the low framerates and server lag (not to mention the high ping I have on American servers), you would actually see a lot more hits.
The next time you feel frustrated because you're getting outplayed, try working on your own game instead of looking for excuses.
Edit: Usually I'd reply with something like meb did below, but maybe replying in a serious manner will reduce the amount of uninformed hackusations being thrown around?
<!--quoteo(post=1875670:date=Sep 19 2011, 08:56 PM:name=fanatic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fanatic @ Sep 19 2011, 08:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875670"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I assume you're talking about me, Slithers, in which case I guess I should say thanks for the compliment. I'm not cheating now, nor did I cheat at any point during the eight or so years that I played NS at the top level. Considering I've played over 100 tournament games, some with several hundreds of spectators, with differing levels of anti cheat and demo recording, there really can't be much doubt that I'm legit. If you have any doubts, feel free to look at any demos of matches I've played in here: <a href="http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/match-history/" target="_blank">http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/match-history/</a>
I suggest you read this: <a href="http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/" target="_blank">http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/</a>
Then watch this: <a href="http://www.ninelegends.com/files/index.php?dir=Movies/Hosted/&file=Fananation.rar" target="_blank">http://www.ninelegends.com/files/index.php...=Fananation.rar</a> (you may have to change the aspect ratio in your video player to 4:3)
Then watch this to see some of the most extreme stuff that's possible without cheating: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSXEUXSj55k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSXEUXSj55k</a>
NS2 is a pretty slow game compared to NS, especially the skulks, which makes aiming a lot easier in NS2. Hitting Lerks is laughably easy by comparison -- the NS lerk was more agile and didn't have to move in straight, predictable, lines to do damage. If it wasn't for the low framerates and server lag (not to mention the high ping I have on American servers), you would actually see a lot more hits.
The next time you feel frustrated because you're getting outplayed, try working on your own game instead of looking for excuses.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why are you sending me NS1 videos, were discussing NS2 here. NS1 is a complete differnt game and it basically plays out just like cs, the network is fluid the movement is flawless and fps is steady at 100 and quick shooting becomes a natural reflex, because the engine is the best feel engine I think out of any engine ever created.
NS2 plays and feels absolutely nothing like NS1.
Secondly, how does a person go from not missing a single shot to being absolutely terrible within a few minutes? You first shoot and every single bullet hits then magically 10 minutes later, you look like some kid that randomly started to play NS2 for the first time after you were called out on it.
If you ever played cs.16 or knew about it's community, then you would know the infamous David Funk. A player that was considered to be one of the best players world wide (when cheating) that was also a great player even when he didn't. There were MANY cs players that cheated online and were still good players, which is why it's so hard to detect. They know how to play the game, they understand the mechanics, but they still insist on cheating even after all that. Were you cheating? I don't know, considering NS2 as it stands right now is sketchy as hell for aiming, fps, stability anything is possible. When I shoot the gun or move around, it's like my mouse is on iceskates and when people move around, it's non stop stutter chop. Now if the inside "occult" community is tweaking commands to remedy all of this, then it would make a lot of sense, especially at 140 latency.
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<!--quoteo(post=1875673:date=Sep 20 2011, 02:08 AM:name=Slithers)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slithers @ Sep 20 2011, 02:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875673"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Why are you sending me NS1 videos, were discussing NS2 here. NS1 is a complete differnt game and it basically plays out just like cs, the network is fluid the movement is flawless and fps is steady at 100 and quick shooting becomes a natural reflex, because the engine is the best feel engine I think out of any engine ever created.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> No wonder my aim is a lot better in NS then. In NS I take down straight walking skulks in 15 bullets, it takes me twice that in NS2.
<!--quoteo(post=1875673:date=Sep 20 2011, 02:08 AM:name=Slithers)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slithers @ Sep 20 2011, 02:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875673"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You first shoot and every single bullet hits<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> If only. The reality is that most of the time it takes me 30+ bullets to kill a skulk and more than a full lmg clip to kill a lerk.
<!--quoteo(post=1875673:date=Sep 20 2011, 02:08 AM:name=Slithers)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slithers @ Sep 20 2011, 02:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875673"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Secondly, how does a person go from not missing a single shot to being absolutely terrible within a few minutes? (...) then magically 10 minutes later, you look like some kid that randomly started to play NS2 for the first time after you were called out on it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I guess it was your "friend" that told you this, which I'm guessing is the same guy who called me a "###### jew" amongst other things (classy guy!). FYI my K:D ratio stayed about the same the entire game.
<!--quoteo(post=1875666:date=Sep 20 2011, 01:30 AM:name=Slithers)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slithers @ Sep 20 2011, 01:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875666"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have been gaming competitively for a minimum of 10 years in games like cs1.6 playing on some of the best teams in the world.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm really looking forward to hearing about these teams you've played in, by the way.
<!--quoteo(post=1875676:date=Sep 19 2011, 09:28 PM:name=fanatic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fanatic @ Sep 19 2011, 09:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875676"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No wonder my aim is a lot better in NS then. In NS I take down straight walking skulks in 15 bullets, it takes me twice that in NS2.
If only. The reality is that most of the time it takes me 30+ bullets to kill a skulk and more than a full lmg clip to kill a lerk.
I guess it was your "friend" that told you this, which I'm guessing is the same guy who called me a "###### jew" amongst other things (classy guy!). FYI my K:D ratio stayed about the same the entire game.
I'm really looking forward to hearing about these teams you've played in, by the way.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Teams : Hybrid, Domain of Pain, Riotsquad.
And you weren't taking entire clips to kill them and myself. Like I said, sending videos of NS1 justifys nothing, the game feels and plays nothing like NS2. Claiming a throne in it as somebody spectacular player when the game had a community of what? 3000 players globally?
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<!--quoteo(post=1875680:date=Sep 20 2011, 02:56 AM:name=Slithers)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slithers @ Sep 20 2011, 02:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875680"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Teams : Hybrid, Domain of Pain, Riotsquad.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Sure, and I'm Santa Claus.
<!--quoteo(post=1875680:date=Sep 20 2011, 02:56 AM:name=Slithers)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slithers @ Sep 20 2011, 02:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875680"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->And you weren't taking entire clips to kill them and myself. Like I said, sending videos of NS1 justifys nothing, the game feels and plays nothing like NS2. Claiming a throne in it as somebody spectacular player when the game had a community of what? 3000 players globally?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> NS2 is different, easier in most ways. If you were good at NS, you're going to be good at NS2 too. I've played NS2 with several of my old team mates and they all play at the same level as me.
<!--quoteo(post=1875681:date=Sep 19 2011, 10:13 PM:name=fanatic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fanatic @ Sep 19 2011, 10:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875681"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sure, and I'm Santa Claus.
NS2 is different, easier in most ways. If you were good at NS, you're going to be good at NS2 too. I've played NS2 with several of my old team mates and they all play at the same level as me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
my name in DoP and [rs] was czr.
Hybrid was the clan I made with my brother Beeftank. We brought in Strath,flip96 and kappa from [xeno] and when I left Domain of Pain I brought Striker and jako with me. They stuck around fora while then took off. Griffin "Benger" Shaguar who lives near me and used to lan with me asked to join Hybrid, I said no and turned him down, because my entire team was real life friends and we didn't have enough spots. He then created FirstWave and took one of my best player Ganja, if you played during that time you would def know him. Ganja is a real life friend of mine who I hang out with regularly.
Here is a video of me just coming back to cs after not playing for 5 years and warming up for 3/4 weeks.
The video editing is trash, the gameplay isn't anything spectacular, but you clearly can see I know the game inside and out and thats me coming back for only 3/4 weeks and barely playing, due to work and real life things. As the video gets closer to the end, you can see how I keep getting better and better and then I stopped playing again.
ps: Santa Claus, I want Battlefield 3 for Christmas.
<!--quoteo(post=1875647:date=Sep 19 2011, 07:07 PM:name=Smug_Lobster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Smug_Lobster @ Sep 19 2011, 07:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875647"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Lol the OP was whining last night in the game we were in cause when I joined in Shiv had like 70-20 or something, a decent score, and Mokrash was losing really badly and wouldn't stop accusing people with more than 3:1 kdr of hacking
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Actually Smug, the KDR was over 6. I took a screenshot if you're interested:
It happened the night before, too. Look at the player with the second highest score: Same deaths, half the kills. I know shiv probably wasn't cheating, but there was something really weird going on in those rounds. He was literally hitting me 90% of the time with his shotgun, even when it was lagging.
EDIT: In the end, does it really matter if he was cheating or not? Either way, the dev team and people hosting servers should be prepared for the possibility of hacks being developed.
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Man, that just makes it worse. Sad to see an oldschool cs player fail so badly.
Apparently you can't be reasoned with, so I guess I'll just say good luck and have fun to you. When first person spectating is finally implemented, feel free to spectate me all you want.
<!--quoteo(post=1875680:date=Sep 19 2011, 08:56 PM:name=Slithers)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slithers @ Sep 19 2011, 08:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875680"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Teams : Hybrid, Domain of Pain, Riotsquad.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> There isn't a single story about you or even a 1.6 roster with your name on it on Gotfrag, ESEA, or CEVO, Mr. Lynch. Are you riding coattails? Google says you are.
You just called an 18 time NS champion an aimbot. If you haven't figured it out by now, you got outplayed, Mr. Counter-Strike. Now stop posting before you make an even bigger joke of yourself.
<!--quoteo(post=1875683:date=Sep 19 2011, 10:36 PM:name=Morkrash)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Morkrash @ Sep 19 2011, 10:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875683"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Actually Smug, the KDR was over 6. I took a screenshot if you're interested:
It happened the night before, too. Look at the player with the second highest score: Same deaths, half the kills. I know shiv probably wasn't cheating, but there was something really weird going on in those rounds. He was literally hitting me 90% of the time with his shotgun, even when it was lagging.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just for the record
I don't think any of those people cheat there, I've played against them all. I will tell you why that is happening though, smuglobster and kalabana and them usually all play together non stop. It's like going against a premade scrim vs a pug of newbs usually.
Same thing happened to me, the game started within the first 15 minutes we were destroyed. MY team consists of brand new players or medicore players and NS2 is a game of knowledge. They know all the tricks, they all play in scrims against each other, they're like a cult.
They're good players working together on a regular basis, so if your not on there team or your on a team against them that isn't very "good" your going to get destroyed.
Most people that join NS2 at first, think its just an FPS and rush in and just try to kill and forget all about the teamwork aspect.
<!--quoteo(post=1875685:date=Sep 19 2011, 10:39 PM:name=meb3)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (meb3 @ Sep 19 2011, 10:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875685"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There isn't a single story about you or even a 1.6 roster with your name on it on Gotfrag, ESEA, or CEVO, Mr. Lynch. Are you riding coattails? Google says you are.
You just called an 18 time NS champion an aimbot. If you haven't figured it out by now, you got outplayed, Mr. Counter-Strike. Now stop posting before you make an even bigger joke of yourself.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I joined Riotsquad and Domain of Pain just after sickness and them left for X3. If sogamed was still up, you would see my name in there, but the site died a long time ago. Domain of Pain had about 20 rosters and riotsquad did aswell, I was playing with Scarface, Trigga, Exile, sniperxx, striker and jako. They took me during their recruitment process and out of the 10 guys they tested they said I was the best one. I played with them for about 2 months and then I left to create my clan with my brother. They asked me to stick around but I said no, I preferedd to play with my real life friends and family. You don't have to believe me, it's fine, I know my own past and I know where I came from.
Once NS2 is established and actually a "working" game, I'll get in to it more and I gaurentee you, you will notice me as one of the better players in the game in a few months
<!--quoteo(post=1875687:date=Sep 19 2011, 09:43 PM:name=Slithers)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slithers @ Sep 19 2011, 09:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875687"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just for the record
I don't think any of those people cheat there, I've played against them all. I will tell you why that is happening though, smuglobster and kalabana and them usually all play together non stop. It's like going against a premade scrim vs a pug of newbs usually.
Same thing happened to me, the game started within the first 15 minutes we were destroyed. MY team consists of brand new players or medicore players and NS2 is a game of knowledge. They know all the tricks, they all play in scrims against each other, they're like a cult.
They're good players working together on a regular basis, so if your not on there team or your on a team against them that isn't very "good" your going to get destroyed.
Most people that join NS2 at first, think its just an FPS and rush in and just try to kill and forget all about the teamwork aspect.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, Smug Lobster and Kalabana UNBELIEVABLE players. THAT'S the reason you got destroyed.
<!--quoteo(post=1875688:date=Sep 19 2011, 09:46 PM:name=Slithers)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slithers @ Sep 19 2011, 09:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875688"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Once NS2 is established and actually a "working" game, I'll get in to it more and I gaurentee you, you will notice me as one of the better players in the game in a few months<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> for just $5 I will make sure you can append to that impressive gamer resume of yours once again
<!--quoteo(post=1875690:date=Sep 19 2011, 11:09 PM:name=meb3)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (meb3 @ Sep 19 2011, 11:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875690"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->for just $5 I will make sure you can append to that impressive gamer resume of yours once again<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
We all play everyday, on TS, on vent, in scrims, in pubs, we've been playing a while, fana nor shiv do cheat. (Haven't with fana on this subject yet, but as far as I can tell he's just jumped into the ns2 slot, also a quick glance at his previous experience should lead you to drop this claim) Everyone has good games, everyone has bad games but let's use the shiv cheating game for example.
I came in that game late and it was 8v4 for most of the round, then proceeded to add kala, luda, and smug to the marine roster, morkrash get real.
I think exactly during that screen shot I was telling you, that you are just angry and over reacting haha ^^ Oh btw, we all understand that this game is currently different things to many people depending on your PC build, but trolling this hard is ridiculous.
Also not to poke at you or anything Slithers but I played comp CS 1.0 to 1.5 and 6th place at CPL for CS:S and the teams you mentioned are pre 1.6, these teams are veteran. If they did bring back DoP and RS for 1.6 that's fantastic but they were just remakes. Not saying I don't believe you at all tho brother, you're from Toronto also so the only few would know about Firstwave and etc so I get that, Fana is probably giving you trouble because of that inconsistency, just a mistake is all!
(Also I don't doubt that you will be at the competitive level of NS2 in no time once optimizing all vibes ^^)
Also to compare CS to NS is pretty crazy, sure you can bring your aim to it that's wonderful but the players who have been frequenting this game understand a whole set of mechanics that just an FPS player(no matter how good, can't pick up right away).
Shiv aimbots all the cysts and eggs on the map... today i got 14 kills emptying my nade launcher into a hive. nothing can compare to the feeling of killing 5 drifters with 1 shot. I love that you actually think he killed 214 aliens.
I think the alien team was just having a hard time working together, it was honestly really easy to kill ya'll. If we hadn't joined halfway through it might have ended faster.
Meb do you take PayPal or Bitcoins? I need your aimbottes so I can defeat Shiv and fanatic!
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rockin the MX510 these days meeself :D
probably should let this thread die though..
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I called him out on the hax and he started to mock it and he had 1 or 2 other people backing him saying he was legit. I am sorry, he was not legit. I have been gaming competitively for a minimum of 10 years in games like cs1.6 playing on some of the best teams in the world. I know hackers when I see them, and players can defend the person all they want, the guy was an outright cheater. As I said before, I've seen all of in NS2 and I have been shot at by the "more hardcore regular" players and not one of them could keep up on my lerk like this guy did.
After I called him out on it, my computer crashed and my buddy was in there still and said the guy magically started to play like trash and was all of a sudden not able to land a shot if his life depended on it. So please tell me, how does a person go from 28 kills and 1 death in a matter of 15 minutes to complete trash and not able to land a machine/shotgun shot after he gets called out on it, toggle much?
Fact is, cheaters are cheaters, just because they pretend to be nice, doesn't mean they're legit. Also, just because they "have bad games" doesn't change the fact that they can toggle on and off whenever they please. Cheats do exist and let's be honest, it's not like we didn't expect this, it happens in every game, but it's good that we all expose the cheats at first sight to UWE, so they can tackle the problem as they continue to build the game.
Thanks for listening.
When I was in cs 1.6, there were some players that were considered the worlds best at a certain time, but on lan they were awful. Their understanding and knowledge of the game was amazing, but when it came to aiming the gun and making shots register, lacked. Pressure usually plays a role, but over time leagues and players started to spread the "config ######s".
My brother started to dig more in to the configging, he modded an entire config in cs 1.6 for me and we executed them in our cs dir. I swear to god, I was shooting awp shots an inch away from the person as they ran by and they would still die. You could spam the ak or colt around the outside of the body and all shots would register as a hit due to the configs tweaked out commands that sent to the server side.
I've also played on teams and against teams for months to years where an entire community assumed and absolutely believed the person was legit at the top tier levels of the game to find out, the player was a cheater and was caught red handed. It baffles me how blind sided people become, because they "know a person". Oh I know him, so my vote says he doesn't cheat, or he never has cheated! oh ok, then he's got to be legit then, because YOU said so.
Played Age of Conan for 3 years, it was a more skill based game, one guy in our guild was a cheater for the longest time, I always suspected it, newbier players would constantly cry and some better players on my team and from other guilds assumed the guy was legit. After we all quit the game, I said to him, I know you were cheating and he laughed, I know. The entire duration of playing the game, the guy cheated and so many people were convinced he was just that good, when in reality he was complete trash.
Just be more open minded people, it's the internet, everybody is fake and the monitor is our protection.
I suggest you look at this: <a href="http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/" target="_blank">http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/</a>
Then watch this: <a href="http://www.ninelegends.com/files/index.php?dir=Movies/Hosted/&file=Fananation.rar" target="_blank">http://www.ninelegends.com/files/index.php...=Fananation.rar</a> (you may have to change the aspect ratio in your video player to 4:3)
Then watch this to see some of the most extreme stuff that's possible without cheating: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSXEUXSj55k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSXEUXSj55k</a>
NS2 is a pretty slow game compared to NS, especially the skulks, which makes aiming a lot easier in NS2. Hitting Lerks is laughably easy by comparison -- the NS lerk was more agile and didn't have to move in straight, predictable, lines to do damage. If it wasn't for the low framerates and server lag (not to mention the high ping I have on American servers), you would actually see a lot more hits.
The next time you feel frustrated because you're getting outplayed, try working on your own game instead of looking for excuses.
Edit: Usually I'd reply with something like meb did below, but maybe replying in a serious manner will reduce the amount of uninformed hackusations being thrown around?
I suggest you read this: <a href="http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/" target="_blank">http://www.ninelegends.com/team/fana/</a>
Then watch this: <a href="http://www.ninelegends.com/files/index.php?dir=Movies/Hosted/&file=Fananation.rar" target="_blank">http://www.ninelegends.com/files/index.php...=Fananation.rar</a> (you may have to change the aspect ratio in your video player to 4:3)
Then watch this to see some of the most extreme stuff that's possible without cheating: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSXEUXSj55k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSXEUXSj55k</a>
NS2 is a pretty slow game compared to NS, especially the skulks, which makes aiming a lot easier in NS2. Hitting Lerks is laughably easy by comparison -- the NS lerk was more agile and didn't have to move in straight, predictable, lines to do damage. If it wasn't for the low framerates and server lag (not to mention the high ping I have on American servers), you would actually see a lot more hits.
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Why are you sending me NS1 videos, were discussing NS2 here. NS1 is a complete differnt game and it basically plays out just like cs, the network is fluid the movement is flawless and fps is steady at 100 and quick shooting becomes a natural reflex, because the engine is the best feel engine I think out of any engine ever created.
NS2 plays and feels absolutely nothing like NS1.
Secondly, how does a person go from not missing a single shot to being absolutely terrible within a few minutes? You first shoot and every single bullet hits then magically 10 minutes later, you look like some kid that randomly started to play NS2 for the first time after you were called out on it.
If you ever played cs.16 or knew about it's community, then you would know the infamous David Funk. A player that was considered to be one of the best players world wide (when cheating) that was also a great player even when he didn't. There were MANY cs players that cheated online and were still good players, which is why it's so hard to detect. They know how to play the game, they understand the mechanics, but they still insist on cheating even after all that. Were you cheating? I don't know, considering NS2 as it stands right now is sketchy as hell for aiming, fps, stability anything is possible. When I shoot the gun or move around, it's like my mouse is on iceskates and when people move around, it's non stop stutter chop. Now if the inside "occult" community is tweaking commands to remedy all of this, then it would make a lot of sense, especially at 140 latency.
Is there a version for angry birds?
No wonder my aim is a lot better in NS then. In NS I take down straight walking skulks in 15 bullets, it takes me twice that in NS2.
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If only. The reality is that most of the time it takes me 30+ bullets to kill a skulk and more than a full lmg clip to kill a lerk.
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I guess it was your "friend" that told you this, which I'm guessing is the same guy who called me a "###### jew" amongst other things (classy guy!). FYI my K:D ratio stayed about the same the entire game.
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I'm really looking forward to hearing about these teams you've played in, by the way.
If only. The reality is that most of the time it takes me 30+ bullets to kill a skulk and more than a full lmg clip to kill a lerk.
I guess it was your "friend" that told you this, which I'm guessing is the same guy who called me a "###### jew" amongst other things (classy guy!). FYI my K:D ratio stayed about the same the entire game.
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Teams : Hybrid, Domain of Pain, Riotsquad.
And you weren't taking entire clips to kill them and myself. Like I said, sending videos of NS1 justifys nothing, the game feels and plays nothing like NS2. Claiming a throne in it as somebody spectacular player when the game had a community of what? 3000 players globally?
Sure, and I'm Santa Claus.
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NS2 is different, easier in most ways. If you were good at NS, you're going to be good at NS2 too. I've played NS2 with several of my old team mates and they all play at the same level as me.
NS2 is different, easier in most ways. If you were good at NS, you're going to be good at NS2 too. I've played NS2 with several of my old team mates and they all play at the same level as me.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
my name in DoP and [rs] was czr.
Hybrid was the clan I made with my brother Beeftank. We brought in Strath,flip96 and kappa from [xeno] and when I left Domain of Pain I brought Striker and jako with me. They stuck around fora while then took off. Griffin "Benger" Shaguar who lives near me and used to lan with me asked to join Hybrid, I said no and turned him down, because my entire team was real life friends and we didn't have enough spots. He then created FirstWave and took one of my best player Ganja, if you played during that time you would def know him. Ganja is a real life friend of mine who I hang out with regularly.
Here is a video of me just coming back to cs after not playing for 5 years and warming up for 3/4 weeks.
<a href="http://www.own3d.tv/user/Slithers84#/watch/143172" target="_blank">http://www.own3d.tv/user/Slithers84#/watch/143172</a>
The video editing is trash, the gameplay isn't anything spectacular, but you clearly can see I know the game inside and out and thats me coming back for only 3/4 weeks and barely playing, due to work and real life things. As the video gets closer to the end, you can see how I keep getting better and better and then I stopped playing again.
ps: Santa Claus, I want Battlefield 3 for Christmas.
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Actually Smug, the KDR was over 6. I took a screenshot if you're interested:
<img src="http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk319/Morkrash/2011-09-18_00017.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
It happened the night before, too. Look at the player with the second highest score: Same deaths, half the kills. I know shiv probably wasn't cheating, but there was something really weird going on in those rounds. He was literally hitting me 90% of the time with his shotgun, even when it was lagging.
EDIT: In the end, does it really matter if he was cheating or not? Either way, the dev team and people hosting servers should be prepared for the possibility of hacks being developed.
Apparently you can't be reasoned with, so I guess I'll just say good luck and have fun to you. When first person spectating is finally implemented, feel free to spectate me all you want.
There isn't a single story about you or even a 1.6 roster with your name on it on Gotfrag, ESEA, or CEVO, Mr. Lynch. Are you riding coattails? Google says you are.
Meanwhile, let me type "fana ns" into Google...
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_NS_Competition_Winners" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_NS_Competition_Winners</a>
18 results for 'fana'
You just called an 18 time NS champion an aimbot. If you haven't figured it out by now, you got outplayed, Mr. Counter-Strike. Now stop posting before you make an even bigger joke of yourself.
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It happened the night before, too. Look at the player with the second highest score: Same deaths, half the kills. I know shiv probably wasn't cheating, but there was something really weird going on in those rounds. He was literally hitting me 90% of the time with his shotgun, even when it was lagging.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just for the record
I don't think any of those people cheat there, I've played against them all. I will tell you why that is happening though, smuglobster and kalabana and them usually all play together non stop. It's like going against a premade scrim vs a pug of newbs usually.
Same thing happened to me, the game started within the first 15 minutes we were destroyed. MY team consists of brand new players or medicore players and NS2 is a game of knowledge. They know all the tricks, they all play in scrims against each other, they're like a cult.
They're good players working together on a regular basis, so if your not on there team or your on a team against them that isn't very "good" your going to get destroyed.
Most people that join NS2 at first, think its just an FPS and rush in and just try to kill and forget all about the teamwork aspect.
Meanwhile, let me type "fana ns" into Google...
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_NS_Competition_Winners" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_NS_Competition_Winners</a>
18 results for 'fana'
You just called an 18 time NS champion an aimbot. If you haven't figured it out by now, you got outplayed, Mr. Counter-Strike. Now stop posting before you make an even bigger joke of yourself.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I joined Riotsquad and Domain of Pain just after sickness and them left for X3. If sogamed was still up, you would see my name in there, but the site died a long time ago. Domain of Pain had about 20 rosters and riotsquad did aswell, I was playing with Scarface, Trigga, Exile, sniperxx, striker and jako. They took me during their recruitment process and out of the 10 guys they tested they said I was the best one. I played with them for about 2 months and then I left to create my clan with my brother. They asked me to stick around but I said no, I preferedd to play with my real life friends and family. You don't have to believe me, it's fine, I know my own past and I know where I came from.
Once NS2 is established and actually a "working" game, I'll get in to it more and I gaurentee you, you will notice me as one of the better players in the game in a few months
I don't think any of those people cheat there, I've played against them all. I will tell you why that is happening though, smuglobster and kalabana and them usually all play together non stop. It's like going against a premade scrim vs a pug of newbs usually.
Same thing happened to me, the game started within the first 15 minutes we were destroyed. MY team consists of brand new players or medicore players and NS2 is a game of knowledge. They know all the tricks, they all play in scrims against each other, they're like a cult.
They're good players working together on a regular basis, so if your not on there team or your on a team against them that isn't very "good" your going to get destroyed.
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Yes, Smug Lobster and Kalabana UNBELIEVABLE players. THAT'S the reason you got destroyed.
for just $5 I will make sure you can append to that impressive gamer resume of yours once again
Thanks man, can I apply to the NS2 occult aswell?
Shiv = LEGIT
We all play everyday, on TS, on vent, in scrims, in pubs, we've been playing a while, fana nor shiv do cheat. (Haven't with fana on this subject yet, but as far as I can tell he's just jumped into the ns2 slot, also a quick glance at his previous experience should lead you to drop this claim)
Everyone has good games, everyone has bad games but let's use the shiv cheating game for example.
I came in that game late and it was 8v4 for most of the round, then proceeded to add kala, luda, and smug to the marine roster, morkrash get real.
Oh btw, we all understand that this game is currently different things to many people depending on your PC build, but trolling this hard is ridiculous.
If they did bring back DoP and RS for 1.6 that's fantastic but they were just remakes.
Not saying I don't believe you at all tho brother, you're from Toronto also so the only few would know about Firstwave and etc so I get that, Fana is probably giving you trouble because of that inconsistency, just a mistake is all!
(Also I don't doubt that you will be at the competitive level of NS2 in no time once optimizing all vibes ^^)
Sheeeeeeesh I talk alot when I'm tipsy, goodbye.
Meb do you take PayPal or Bitcoins? I need your aimbottes so I can defeat Shiv and fanatic!