Shotgun. Why Nobody Uses It?

DemiurgeDemiurge Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9025Members
People keeps rushing on fades with LMG and asks themselves why fades win.... shotguns (at high level especially) are capable of killing a fade in matter of seconds... a marine whit lvl2 armor and lvl2 weapon can chop a fade in no time... if the commander gives him health he could stop by himself a fade strike...
it's a very understimated weapon, try it!

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  • HannebambelHannebambel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5416Banned
    edited December 2002
    The shotgun is the best weapon IMO, but it needs a good ping to use it well. When the game starts lagging the shotgun is almost useless.

    To smaller Aliens the shotgun is even a oneshot killer. It does fully upgraded up to 210 damage with one blast. I use either this or the nade launcher.

    I do not like the HMG coz of it´s inaccuracy and it has not enough ammo by far.

    (added)

    this is also a big advantage of the shotgun. You do not run out of ammo so fast. I think the ammo last nearly 3 times longer than of the HMG.
  • DarkseedDarkseed Join Date: 2002-07-02 Member: 870Members
    The problem is not that nobody wants to use it. I know plenty of people who favors the shotgun over the HMG, me included. The problem lies with the commanders who thinks the shotgun isn't worth the 20 res it costs and will therefore very rarely if ever drop one when they can drop a HMG for a mere 5 res more. What they don't see is that in capable hands the shotgun is a devastating weapon in the beginning of a game. And as someone else already pointed out the shotgun is still good late game if fully upgraded.
  • Dauntl3ssDauntl3ss Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7737Members
    huh? nobody uses shotty? i use it with jetpack.. easy to take fades if u have room then..
  • Teufel_EldritchTeufel_Eldritch Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 124Members
    Well speaking for myself only....I find its rof to slow. BOOM!!! 10 seconds later..... BOOM!!! another 10 seconds later... BOOM!!!


    *plz note Im exaggerating with the 10 seconds thing, but its still too slow.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Dauntless, just because <i>you</i> do something, doesn't mean everyone else does.

    I was in an amusing game once, where I asked the commander for a shotgun, and he gave me a HMG. I thanked him, went off, killed stuff, got killed. Asked for a shotgun. He gave me a HMG. I explained that wasn't a shotgun, but thanks anyway. I go off, kill, be killed. I ask for a shotgun, not a HMG, which is what he gave me last time, but a shotgun, which is the gun that costs 20, and which is NOT the HMG. He drops an HMG. People start laughing.
  • WaffleHouseNinjaWaffleHouseNinja Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10077Members
    I love the shotgun, its my fav. gun. Ive mowed down tuns of fades wit it, giving I had a good commander watchin my back <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Plus when those pesky lil skulks go to jump in my face BAM! One hit dead.
  • SemperFiSemperFi Join Date: 2002-08-02 Member: 1049Members
    People dont like it because it takes more skill to use than the HMG.
  • BigrickBigrick Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3750Members
    No one uses it because commanders rarely hand them out, i find most players use whatever they're given. As a commander though I give out shottys to people who do what I tell them to, a shotty in non-capable hands is a waste.
  • xioutlawixxioutlawix Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7118Members, Constellation
    Heh, I never use it because for it to be effective it requires you being right next to the enemy.

    For the early game I appreciate the lmg for its accuracy and range when hitting skulks rushing you from afar.

    I'll prolly need to practice a bit on sneaking up on fades with the shotty though, because it certainly can rip through them, getting close enough to them seems to be the hard part though, as they just barrage me with rockets :\
  • HannebambelHannebambel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5416Banned
    If you can handle the KAR98 in Day of Defeat you can handle the shottie with ease.
  • DoombringerDoombringer Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8679Members, Constellation
    Personally, I leave the shotgun to more skilled players. If I accidentally pick one up, I drop it again and go back to my LMG or HMG, which aren't so cruel on my somewhat high ping.

    But yes, the shottie can clean up in the right hands. Usually, when I comm (rarely) and I hear a marine asking for a jetpack and a shottie, I figure they're a pretty skilled player. Most of the time I'm dead right <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • frances_farmerfrances_farmer Join Date: 2002-10-12 Member: 1485Members
    i think it is very effective as well, but until Comms start handing it out more I don't think we will se much of what it has to offer.

    I had a small argument with a Comm about the Shotgun being more effective than the HMG but he had voice Comm so he just shouted at me.
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    If I'm the comm, I don't hand out shotguns because... N00Bs always go rambo the second they get a gun "better" than an lmg, and it's a waste of 20 resources. Plus very rarely does anyone follow a guy with a good gun. Hasn't anyone seen "Enemy at the Gates"? If the guy in front of you got the gun, you followed him and picked it up off of his **obscenity**. And if you argue about me only giving the good guys a shotgun... If I dropped a shotgun and missed the guy I meant to give it to, someone (a n00b, of course) will run, grab it, and run off and die.

    I'd much rather build a phase gate than a shottie.
  • Red5Red5 Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7266Members
    I remember this one time, when the commander actually gave out some ( a lot) shotguns at an early start, it was devastating to those skulks, they hadn't a chance of survival.

    Too bad I was alien...
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    LOL Speed 2 Dave, I do that all the time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Follow the guy with the neat gun, and take it when he keels over.
  • AcheronAcheron Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8489Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Dec 16 2002, 02:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Dec 16 2002, 02:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->LOL Speed 2 Dave, I do that all the time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Follow the guy with the neat gun, and take it when he keels over.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've heard people tell others to do that. "Hey, <u>Russian</u> that gun before it disappears!"

    I thought it was pretty funny.
  • pdubpdub Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10838Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well speaking for myself only....I find its rof to slow. BOOM!!! 10 seconds later..... BOOM!!! another 10 seconds later... BOOM!!!


    *plz note Im exaggerating with the 10 seconds thing, but its still too slow. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    i think some people don't realize that you can fire the shotgun more rapidly then it first seems, keep playing with it. I think it's less than 2 seconds between shots. It's the hardest weapon to learn to use because of ammo management and timing, but it's got a nice punch and it's a lot of fun in the right situation.

    HMG's seem to be a the cleanup weapon of choice these days, when you've got enough res to stock your entire team with full gear and the poor aliens are just hanging out in their 1 hive waiting for you to phase in and oblitherate them. :/
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