Just want to hold something in my hands.

ns_insiderns_insider Join Date: 2007-09-30 Member: 62484Members, Reinforced - Shadow
hello guys,

after getting my beta access 1 year ago i played and tested a lot of things. Just every patch let me celebrate a party and aftert all this i just wonder, if there will be a commercial version in the local shops to buy, not only in ###### steam. i already have my key, but i would buy it, only for the packaging :D maybe special edition with a skulk statue? :D

so any answers? :)

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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    I think the general consensus is that it would be too expensive. Well it could perhaps work for a local Frisco (yeah that's right i called it that :P) release. But world wide distribution probably requires some big publisher and is still quite expensive what with shipping and ultimately selling the buggers.

    NS2 is still a niche, I don't think such a game would sell that well in retail stores either.


    Also GORGE PLUSHIES have priority :P
  • lazylazy Join Date: 2005-07-23 Member: 56631Members
    Then hold something else in your hands... ;)
  • mokkatmokkat Join Date: 2009-08-30 Member: 68652Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1836999:date=Mar 13 2011, 08:11 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Mar 13 2011, 08:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1836999"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also GORGE PLUSHIES have priority :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You can hold this all night, /thread :D (i want one!!)
  • ShiloriusShilorius Join Date: 2011-01-14 Member: 77445Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I would like to have a real DVD-case for my shelf.

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think the general consensus is that it would be too expensive.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I agree.
    But maybe UWE could take orders and if (lets say) 1000 Orders are in stock they go to the local DVD pressing plant and produce the "special edition" and ship it to the purchaser.

    (and maybe they could do that with a gorge plushy too...)
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    At most, it would likely just be a CD that starts the download process on steam. UWE, and a lot of other game developers, have switched to digital distribution because it greatly reduces the cost of game distribution. Maybe UWE could start selling decorative cases down the road (e.g. old-fashioned game box with other goodies inside such as NS2 art or a pretty looking game manual), but I think that would be low on their list of priorities.
  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    Hey guys.

    We will probably do a retail version after we release v1.0 but we don't have specific plans yet. Of course, plushies would be awesome too. :)
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1836999:date=Mar 13 2011, 07:11 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Mar 13 2011, 07:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1836999"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think the general consensus is that it would be too expensive. Well it could perhaps work for a local Frisco (yeah that's right i called it that :P) release. But world wide distribution probably requires some big publisher and is still quite expensive what with shipping and ultimately selling the buggers.

    NS2 is still a niche, I don't think such a game would sell that well in retail stores either.


    Also GORGE PLUSHIES have priority :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Expensive is expensive!

    Although limited edition in house made box art and CD's would be pretty cool, especially for things such as community made projects, a competitive tournament and pot luck draws. Say 100 or so. That's doable, not amazingly expensive and hey, an all round nice thing, albeit way after release when "things have settled".
  • KuBaNKuBaN Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8979Members, Constellation
    I think if there is a large enough demand for this, UWE could do a limited release, similar to what they did with the digital version, with a higher price tag and additional meta-content that doesn't necessarily affect gameplay. I've been seeing this a lot recently. When Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails) left his record label to become independent, he released a limited number of physical albums, complete with digital copies of the music in higher-quality, lossless formats, all sorts of concept artwork and other such collectibles. Pretty sure they sold out pretty quick. Then he released just the digital copy of the album for free. This model seems to boost exposure, since there is potentially no demographic that is interested in the product that cannot attain it in some shape or form.

    I consider myself a minimalist. I own very few things, and I absolutely hate clutter, to the point where it's difficult for me to be sentimental with objects even when I want to. Still, I would gladly shell out more than the average consumer would for a newly released AAA title (that probably sucks) for a Limited Edition with a behind the scenes DVD of in-house interviews, videocasts, and/or a book with all of the concept art, and/or Gorge plushy, and/or whatever else you can market.
  • ShiloriusShilorius Join Date: 2011-01-14 Member: 77445Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1837132:date=Mar 14 2011, 01:00 PM:name=Flayra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Flayra @ Mar 14 2011, 01:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1837132"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hey guys.

    We will probably do a retail version after we release v1.0 but we don't have specific plans yet. Of course, plushies would be awesome too. :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Thank you.
    Thats good to know :-D
  • PersianImm0rtalPersianImm0rtal Join Date: 2010-12-02 Member: 75414Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    I will probably buy both a steam copy and retail copy if they release a retail copy of the game!

    <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->But Thanks UWE for making this game for STEAM!<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> Best decision ever!

    I <3 Steam.

    I almost to the point where I will never buy a game, unless it is released on Steam.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1837143:date=Mar 14 2011, 08:21 PM:name=PersianImm0rtal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PersianImm0rtal @ Mar 14 2011, 08:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1837143"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I will probably buy both a steam copy and retail copy if they release a retail copy of the game!

    <!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->But Thanks UWE for making this game for STEAM!<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> Best decision ever!

    I <3 Steam.

    I almost to the point where I will never buy a game, unless it is released on Steam.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Games for Windows Live


    *shudder*
  • RobBRobB TUBES OF THE INTERWEB Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    wah. Microsoft must pay devs cash to build that into their games.
  • ns_insiderns_insider Join Date: 2007-09-30 Member: 62484Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    mh, ok.

    i hate steam, from the first day. i miss the time, where i could buy games in stores. and get something for my money, not as steam is doing, digital.

    <a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2747/4043251793_2d55905c0a.jpg" target="_blank">http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2747/404325..._2d55905c0a.jpg</a> like this, so much win.

    but, if UWE will accept something like, order of natural selection 2 retails, i would pay every price. even for NS 1 COPY :D
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    digital distribution is win. you only complain because you don't know what it's like to pay 400% markup prices.
  • kingmobkingmob Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3650Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1837143:date=Mar 14 2011, 03:21 PM:name=PersianImm0rtal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PersianImm0rtal @ Mar 14 2011, 03:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1837143"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I <3 Steam.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    yeah steam started rough.
    but now it has smoothed out.

    and its far easier to return a game in steam than in a store.

    and ick i have to deal with GFWL for playing Dawn of War II
  • jkflipflopjkflipflop Join Date: 2010-10-13 Member: 74423Members
    How could you possibly hate Steam? It's the single greatest gift to PC gamers. Ever.
  • RobBRobB TUBES OF THE INTERWEB Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1838784:date=Mar 25 2011, 06:13 PM:name=jkflipflop)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jkflipflop @ Mar 25 2011, 06:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1838784"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How could you possibly hate Steam? It's the single greatest gift to PC gamers. Ever.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If they finally include age verification and a real try out-return feature (and return if unplayable of course *still grumbling about commandos not working on my windows*), yes.
    And subdue Games for windows live and Gamespy, as in forcing gamedevs to remove those pieces of crap.
  • GISPGISP Battle Gorge Denmark Join Date: 2004-03-20 Member: 27460Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Gold, Subnautica Playtester, Forum staff
    Well i know what xmas gifts i would give famely and friends, if NS2 come retail.
  • DeadzoneDeadzone Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17911Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1838963:date=Mar 27 2011, 10:06 AM:name=GISP)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GISP @ Mar 27 2011, 10:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1838963"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well i know what xmas gifts i would give famely and friends, if NS2 come retail.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You can still gift things over steam. Just tell your family/friends to go create a free steam account, then Gift the game or email them the activation key. Of course, this is assuming they're not people who refuse to touch steam for whatever hipster reason.
  • ShiloriusShilorius Join Date: 2011-01-14 Member: 77445Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited March 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1838992:date=Mar 27 2011, 11:45 AM:name=Deadzone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Deadzone @ Mar 27 2011, 11:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1838992"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You can still gift things over steam. Just tell your family/friends to go create a free steam account, then Gift the game or email them the activation key. Of course, this is assuming they're not people who refuse to touch steam for whatever hipster reason.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    But it <i>might</i> be a little tricky to wrap a Ribbon around that or some Gift Paper :-P
  • DeadzoneDeadzone Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17911Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1839015:date=Mar 27 2011, 08:13 PM:name=Shilorius)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shilorius @ Mar 27 2011, 08:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1839015"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->But it <i>might</i> be a little tricky to wrap a Ribbon around that or some Gift Paper :-P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    It's a problem without ribbons or tags? Without packages, boxes, or bags? I didn't know the Grinch had an account on these forums! :o

    Write down the gift code on a card/piece of paper. Put it in any size box you want, and mess with their heads as to what they're getting. Have fun :)
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    For most people you'd gift to, boxes just end up taking up valuable space.
  • KaXaSAKaXaSA Join Date: 2010-05-22 Member: 71841Members
    edited March 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1839015:date=Mar 27 2011, 10:13 PM:name=Shilorius)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shilorius @ Mar 27 2011, 10:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1839015"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->But it <i>might</i> be a little tricky to wrap a Ribbon around that or some Gift Paper :-P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    send a big gift box with a small note inside. <i>'hey bro merry christmas! check your steam account'</i>
  • 1stToast1stToast Join Date: 2007-12-02 Member: 63067Members
    How about a gold box set DVD that has NS2, red armor, NS, Zen of Sudoku, Decoda, a Gorge plushie, autographed by the UWE staff. This would be preordered online with a healthy profit margin. If you think there wouldn’t be any suckers to buy it, think again. I bought the orange box even though I had most of the games already and gifted them out! :-}
  • SteinhauerSteinhauer Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72493Members
    I created a steam account for my dad for Christmas, bought BFBC2 on it, and gave him a printout of his account info inside a box wrapped in gift paper.
  • MkilbrideMkilbride Join Date: 2010-01-07 Member: 69952Members
    I've used Steam since it's beta and loved it. I've never understood the hate...it's always been great.
  • FehaFeha Join Date: 2006-11-16 Member: 58633Members
    Notch talking about maps made me notice what this threads title actually says o_0.

    <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/63293487310843904" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/63293487310843904</a>
    <a href="http://imgur.com/hz2R0" target="_blank">http://imgur.com/hz2R0</a>
  • SteinhauerSteinhauer Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72493Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1842813:date=Apr 27 2011, 06:28 PM:name=Mkilbride)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mkilbride @ Apr 27 2011, 06:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1842813"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've used Steam since it's beta and loved it. I've never understood the hate...it's always been great.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Honestly I used to hate it for the longest time, and only used it because I had to for certain games. It was poorly done at first and not terribly useful. It was buggy and I don't remember bandwidth availability being high like it usually is now.

    Now I love it, I try to buy all my games off of Steam for the convenience (especially since my M11x doesn't have a built-in disk drive). Until I bought a PS3 late last year I hadn't been to a store for gaming purposes in years, except to upgrade desktop hardware.
  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1842813:date=Apr 27 2011, 07:28 PM:name=Mkilbride)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mkilbride @ Apr 27 2011, 07:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1842813"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've used Steam since it's beta and loved it. I've never understood the hate...it's always been great.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    you miss WON ID, admit it.
  • craecrae Join Date: 2005-01-30 Member: 39035Members
    I suggest skip the box & DVD, and make some poster art and sell that as something physical. UWE already have lots of concept art they could adapt in no time and getting a few thousand posters printed is probably easier and cheaper than getting DVD's stamped and packaged. It also makes good promotional sense and it's also kinder for the environment - no plastic.
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