Dedicated server help?

FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds EntertainmentSan Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
<div class="IPBDescription">For internal playtesting</div>As we've been trying to track down various sound and other bugs recently we have been spending a lot of time testing. But it would really help for us to be able to test in an online environment, instead of only on a LAN.

To do this, we could really use a European or UK based windows dedicated server. Can anyone here help with this? Ideally we don't want a top of the line machine, as we want to test what NS2 is like in the "real world". (We had a problem with NS1 where we did all of our testing with a beefy dedicated server and then found out that we had CPU performance problems when we launched v1.0...remember that?)
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  • PersianImm0rtalPersianImm0rtal Join Date: 2010-12-02 Member: 75414Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    I really hope you find a good test server, because as of right now 99% of the servers hosted lag, to the point the game is not playable. Although, it is a groundbreaking ultra amazing game, keep up the good work. I hope this game ships server lag free.
  • PapayasPapayas Join Date: 2010-07-01 Member: 72219Members
    edited February 2011
    Sounds good, I hope you find a sever you are looking for
  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    What kind of access do you need to this server? RDP? FTP?
  • MadMakzMadMakz Join Date: 2010-12-22 Member: 75850Members
    edited February 2011
    even when i guess devicenull can setup something quick for you, i just give it a try;

    i'm willing to sponsor a dedi box with Win S2008 in germany exclusive for NS2 testing. but it won't be up before march 1st or 2nd :/

    Specs are AMD X4 2,3 GHz, 8Go RAM (DDR3), 2x 1TB SATA-II (SW RAID 1) and 100mbps (FD).

    just hit me with a PM anytime.
    Kind regards

    Makz
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    Do need full Remote Desktop access, It would be ill advised to try providing us anything that runs other servies as we could hog all the CPU/RAM or crash other services during all the testing phases.
  • JibrailJibrail Join Date: 2009-04-16 Member: 67200Members
    Just wondering
    would a laptop with
    dual core I think its at 2.1 GHz
    2gb ram
    and a 100/10mb line with no cap
    windows xp sp3
    be enough to do the job?
  • hkerhker Join Date: 2011-02-24 Member: 83273Members
    Heres a question for you, why a UK server if your US Based?
  • KoruyoKoruyo AUT Join Date: 2009-06-06 Member: 67724Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited February 2011
    Because its a better realworld case?

    So they can test how a crappy server with higher pings performs?

    I guess its better to improve the client depending on a bit more extreme worst cases... (since they happen, and you want to make sure performance is as good as possible in every case)


    edit: Let me add more sentences with "case" in it >_> ;P - whatever you get the point.
  • Sr LanceSr Lance Rhythm is a Lancer Join Date: 2004-11-18 Member: 32862Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    Hi Flayra,
    I am willing to offer my server based in the UK. I run the Skulkrush Gaming Servers. Dedicated box Dual Xeon 3.0 4GB DDR2 Ram with remote access and unlimited bandwidth.
  • SN.WolfSN.Wolf Join Date: 2010-03-29 Member: 71115Members
    If yo go US west I have a Q6600/3gb ram,headless blade on a home grown connection that is only hosting TS3 ATM.

    Players experienced phantom and sound loss from this box.
  • sKuLL*sKuLL* Join Date: 2011-02-04 Member: 80291Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1834836:date=Feb 24 2011, 10:33 PM:name=Dtlance)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dtlance @ Feb 24 2011, 10:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834836"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hi Flayra,
    I am willing to offer my server based in the UK. I run the Skulkrush Gaming Servers. Dedicated box Dual Xeon 3.0 4GB DDR2 Ram with remote access and unlimited bandwidth.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Pro Dtlance, this server is running quite well ;)
  • ZenoZeno Join Date: 2007-09-05 Member: 62183Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1834823:date=Feb 24 2011, 09:54 PM:name=SgtBarlow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SgtBarlow @ Feb 24 2011, 09:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834823"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Do need full Remote Desktop access<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just be careful not to get hacked like Valve did D: .
  • darkyatdarkyat Join Date: 2011-01-12 Member: 77212Members
    We are hosting a NS2 Server located in Germany.

    It runs now for a couple of months and is a Windows 2008 Server in a XEN Enviroment. In Build 162 the server was really smooth and nearly lagfree (if it got restarted at least every 2 days).

    Specs: 3x 2.6Ghz & 3GB of RAM.

    If a server in Germany is needed i would appreciate to know what you are going to deploy on the machine during your testing period and how long the testing will take.
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    edited February 2011
    Because we already have 2/3 US servers, most the Testing team is closest to or in europe, could do with natural high ping cases for the office to review the effects on that.
  • BomBomBomBom Join Date: 2010-07-30 Member: 73369Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I could provide dual core/quad core servers based in the UK, what sort of access would you need?
  • ZurikiZuriki Join Date: 2010-11-20 Member: 75105Members
    It would probably be better if you provided the spec "range" you wanted. People are offering Laptops and people are offering insane Xeon beasts.

    Perhaps something like:

    Dual core processor 2.5GHz range
    2GB DDR3 RAM
    No/Small/Integrated GPU
    Home internet line (max. 10mbps down/4mbps up)

    So those who are offering can see what you're looking for more specifically. (the above was just an example)
  • Alpha.Alpha. Join Date: 2011-01-04 Member: 76186Members
    edited February 2011
    This machine [Team #156 - EU, Germany] can be at your disposal starting from 01.03.11 [next week]:
    Intel® Core™ i7-920 Quadcore
    8 GB DDR3 RAM
    Connection: 100Mbit
  • NurEinMenschNurEinMensch Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14056Members, Constellation
    What do you mean European <i>or</i> UK based?

    ;p
  • endarendar Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73256Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1834856:date=Feb 25 2011, 10:53 AM:name=Zuriki)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zuriki @ Feb 25 2011, 10:53 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834856"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It would probably be better if you provided the spec "range" you wanted. People are offering Laptops and people are offering insane Xeon beasts.

    Perhaps something like:

    Dual core processor 2.5GHz range
    2GB DDR3 RAM
    No/Small/Integrated GPU
    Home internet line (max. 10mbps down/4mbps up)

    So those who are offering can see what you're looking for more specifically. (the above was just an example)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That would be nice. Explain exactly what you want and then see what people come up with.
  • SgtBarlowSgtBarlow Level Designer Join Date: 2003-11-13 Member: 22749Members, NS2 Developer
    <u>Lower</u> end of the sepecs prefared but if Dual or Quad is provided that always allows us to test multiple instances running on sperate cores.


    Dedicated : Windows Server 2000/2008

    <u>2.0Ghz</u>/2.2Ghz /2.4Ghz DC/QC

    2GB / <u>4GB</u> RAM

    10GB (Top Side) / > free HDD space

    Standard 100/mbit commercial connection

    Basicly we want to test on normal server host game hosting enviroments on the lowest of the current markets specs.
  • endarendar Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73256Members, Squad Five Blue
    Do you have a problem with Australia?
  • _Thresh__Thresh_ Join Date: 2008-01-11 Member: 63385Members
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
  • PersianImm0rtalPersianImm0rtal Join Date: 2010-12-02 Member: 75414Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1834828:date=Feb 24 2011, 04:09 PM:name=hker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hker @ Feb 24 2011, 04:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834828"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Heres a question for you, why a UK server if your US Based?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    *face palm*

    Wow, maybe so they can really optomize the servers for worst case scenario settings. If they make the gameplay smooth with no lag running from a server on the other side of the planet, don't you think that when you play one closer to your location(inside the USA) the performance of the server would be phenomenally good?

    This is a good idea for them to test on a server with low specs from a far distance, so they can really see how good the servers run in the real world. Not on a local LAN, where all of the playtesting is done on a server that is only a few feet away from them.
  • xposed-xposed- Join Date: 2007-09-23 Member: 62412Members, Constellation
    I'll be happy to help if you guys need an Australian based Windows DS. I own and operate a web design firm and we have our own in-house datacenter.
  • endarendar Join Date: 2010-07-27 Member: 73256Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1834891:date=Feb 25 2011, 03:06 PM:name=PersianImm0rtal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PersianImm0rtal @ Feb 25 2011, 03:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834891"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->*face palm*

    Wow, maybe so they can really optomize the servers for worst case scenario settings. If they make the gameplay smooth with no lag running from a server on the other side of the planet, don't you think that when you play one closer to your location(inside the USA) the performance of the server would be phenomenally good?

    This is a good idea for them to test on a server with low specs from a far distance, so they can really see how good the servers run in the real world. Not on a local LAN, where all of the playtesting is done on a server that is only a few feet away from them.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If that was truly the case why dont they just run a really long cable coiled up hundreds of times?
  • ZurikiZuriki Join Date: 2010-11-20 Member: 75105Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1834901:date=Feb 25 2011, 05:05 AM:name=endar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (endar @ Feb 25 2011, 05:05 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834901"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If that was truly the case why dont they just run a really long cable coiled up hundreds of times?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because that's more expensive, impractical and unrealistic.
  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
    Aside from ping-time, packet-drops\corruption are also things the engine should be able to handle well, and since the longer the distance (hops through internet-exchanges and routers), the higher the likelyhood of UDP-datagrams to be compromised, I can understand why sheer distance is an important factor.
  • PersianImm0rtalPersianImm0rtal Join Date: 2010-12-02 Member: 75414Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1834901:date=Feb 25 2011, 12:05 AM:name=endar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (endar @ Feb 25 2011, 12:05 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834901"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If that was truly the case why dont they just run a really long cable coiled up hundreds of times?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    please dont troll endar...
  • JibrailJibrail Join Date: 2009-04-16 Member: 67200Members
    edited February 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1834901:date=Feb 25 2011, 06:05 AM:name=endar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (endar @ Feb 25 2011, 06:05 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1834901"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If that was truly the case why dont they just run a really long cable coiled up hundreds of times?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    or they could use that same network cable from Europe all the way to their office in San Francisco and run LAN on it.
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