Wann Optimization?
Classic319
Join Date: 2010-11-06 Member: 74789Members
Join Date: 2010-11-06 Member: 74789Members
<div class="IPBDescription">frame rate!</div>Is it possible to you dev teams to keep the promise of initial "Required System"?
I remember that was with sort of 256 RAM. That's really awful spec. So i do definately not look forward for NS2 to have that kind of optimization(if it does, it's just miracle)
But at least 6600GT or 7600GT should be able to run it AT LEAST on the lowest option!
I have 2 computers in my bording house(Wohngemeinschaft), one is with 2GB RAM, 8600GT and another older one is having 1GB RAm, 7600GS, but only 8600GT can run current NS2 with LESS THAN 10 frame rates. And it's even worse than it looks like, it's completely impossible to play the game. For 7600... it's just hell.
I know NS2 is still work in prosses on closed Beta,, but I'm still not sure if NS2 will later be able to get better visuals and require significantly less system(spec).
Cheer up, but I want to hear you great dev team's mind. Are you sure you can make this game really playable to ganz normal or less-system-having Computers?
I remember that was with sort of 256 RAM. That's really awful spec. So i do definately not look forward for NS2 to have that kind of optimization(if it does, it's just miracle)
But at least 6600GT or 7600GT should be able to run it AT LEAST on the lowest option!
I have 2 computers in my bording house(Wohngemeinschaft), one is with 2GB RAM, 8600GT and another older one is having 1GB RAm, 7600GS, but only 8600GT can run current NS2 with LESS THAN 10 frame rates. And it's even worse than it looks like, it's completely impossible to play the game. For 7600... it's just hell.
I know NS2 is still work in prosses on closed Beta,, but I'm still not sure if NS2 will later be able to get better visuals and require significantly less system(spec).
Cheer up, but I want to hear you great dev team's mind. Are you sure you can make this game really playable to ganz normal or less-system-having Computers?
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But it seems like the next release has some improvments in framerates, nothing dramatic, but judging from the latest NS2HD video things will become better
But it seems like the next release has some improvments in framerates, nothing dramatic, but judging from the latest NS2HD video things will become better<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But they've been optimizing nearly every update. I think you mean that full optimization that satisfies the system requirements will only come when finally release the game.
But it seems like the next release has some improvments in framerates, nothing dramatic, but judging from the latest NS2HD video things will become better<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Optimization is happening now and will continue happening up until and past release. There isn't some magical "optimization phase" that will handle all optimization. If they choose to feature freeze at some point prior to release you could think of that an optimization-only phase, but even then you won't see optimization at a breakneck pace.
I'm a bit worried as my 4GB RAM, e8200, 9800GT computer would need to run NS2 about 300-400% faster than it currently is for it to be playable for a fast-paced multiplayer game.
I know absolutely nothing about coding- so tell if I'm wrong- but needing such a huge optimisation seems... unlikely?
My 3,2ghz C2D, 2gb ram 8800gt runs it in 1680x1050 with about 17fps in battles in both awful and medium setting (with r_shadows false). Its borderline playable, and though cannot win a marine/skulk melee battle without a lucky riflebutt, Im having fun.
I stand corrected! Good news!
P.S.
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I'm clueless at coding not math :p
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made me lol
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Nice. I really like the players name's showing up under their character. That'll make it much easier to give orders.
The level of "optimization" most of the (clueless) people on here are claiming when they say "zomg, wait for release, it isn't optimized yet!" is, unfortunately, pure fantasy.
That may be, but an isolated piece of code (an algorithm for example) cannot be compared to an engine as a whole. There are many factors to be considered, some with the potential to be optimized as much as you say, others not so much. Having said that, I do believe there is quite a bit of optimization left to be done, but I wouldn't count on a 300-400% FPS-increase to be frank.
I'm quite confident about final performance, but I understand the concerns of people wanting to play on old computers/laptops. If I don't care if the games doesn't run at >100FPS constantly, I'm more concerned about the general feeling of the game, like movement smoothness, controls, etc... (even though it has a lot to do with the "polishing" phase of the development).
The level of "optimization" most of the (clueless) people on here are claiming when they say "zomg, wait for release, it isn't optimized yet!" is, unfortunately, pure fantasy.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Quoted for truth, anything less than a fast dual/quad core with a modern graphics card (radeon 5770/gforce 450) will not be able to run the game properly, not to mention midrange laptop users who are condemned to get even lower fps.
At the moment, the game doesn't seem to handle multiple CPU codes well, which is part of what causes lag/poor performance.
While I do agree, I also find it quite weird that I can't play a game that is said to be designed with lower end systems in mind. Especially back in 2009 my laptop could still run most of the stuff quite fine.
Now it seems I might need a new PC before I can even play the game enjoyably, not to speak of getting a smooth and stable gameplay required for any kind of more skill based gaming.
Keep in mind that since alpha release it has already been improved by about 600% with 5fps -> 30-35 for me :P
and you think it's a linear relation?
it's more intuitive to see it as time taken to produce 1 frame, through the different steps involved.
as the programmer comes up with better solutions/algorithms, it gets harder and harder to reduce this time, the easiest things already went in since engine test.
i doubt that more than 0.1% of people here actually know what optimizing is other than the word and that it gives "moar fps" (including me, but have some idea).
it's more intuitive to see it as time taken to produce 1 frame, through the different steps involved.
as the programmer comes up with better solutions/algorithms, it gets harder and harder to reduce this time, the easiest things already went in since engine test.
i doubt that more than 0.1% of people here actually know what optimizing is other than the word and that it gives "moar fps" (including me, but have some idea).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No ###### Sherlock <img src="http://members.home.nl/m.borgman/ns-forum/smileys/rolleyes.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
i know
and this is why people should read this to get some idea:
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_optimization" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_optimization</a>