Natural Selection 2 News Update - HLDSUpdateTool Support

Max · January 2011

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Martin · January 2011

Is this available now or do we have to wait for the next release?

Runteh · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Natural Selection 2 Beta dedicated server is now available via HLDSUpdateTool.</div>

I'm guessing so.

weezl · January 2011

does this mean the servers that are crashing now will update with the crash-bug-fix?

daidalos · January 2011

Is there going to be a Linux version of the dedicated server?

I apologise for this question but I might as well post it before someone else does. (:

GaidinTS · January 2011

Any idea when a linux version will be throw together? With no client libraries, it should be fairly trivial, correct?

I may be mistaken, but things like Direct X shouldn't be needed at all on the server.

Dank McShwagger · January 2011

I'm not very familiar with how this dedicated server works but will it result in better server performance?

McGlaspie · January 2011

@Dank McShwagger: Nope, no increased performance. With the exclusion of boxes that were limited and loosing resources to Steam (which means a server shouldn't run on that machine anyway).

eXa · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Martin @ Jan 4 2011, 12:12 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821282"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Is this available now or do we have to wait for the next release?</div>

Just download the installer from the link they give and you can make a bat with this: (create a new .txt file and change extension to .bat)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>hldsupdatetool.exe -command update -game naturalselection2 -dir C:/NS2</div>

Of course you can change C:/NS2 by any folder you want it to be in

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dank McShwagger @ Jan 4 2011, 12:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821296"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not very familiar with how this dedicated server works but will it result in better server performance?</div>

Only if they've made changes on it, so maybe. But the real improvement is that you don't need 3GB for a server and neither steam. And when the NS2 Team release a new version all servers with the "-autoupdate" command will automatically update (without user interaction)

McGlaspie · January 2011

Aye, all the above is correct. I hope this doesn't delay the Friday updates, considering they now have a two separate builds to make each week (it shouldn't).

Good move UWE, thanks for this.

MOOtant · January 2011

"The program can't start because d3dx9_42.dll is missing from your computer" Tried to run it on Windows Server 2008 R2.

I installed missing files using dxwebsetup but still it's kind of weird to require DirectX for dedicated server.

I disable Windows Firewall and have public IP and I can't see my server. Maybe it's related to server.exe saying "Failed to load Steam Service". Everything works when I connect directly using console.

Max · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (McGlaspie @ Jan 3 2011, 04:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821306"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Aye, all the above is correct. I hope this doesn't delay the Friday updates, considering they now have a two separate builds to make each week (it shouldn't).

Good move UWE, thanks for this.</div>
It adds a little bit to the build time, but the entire process is automated so having a second build won't affect our ability to do weekly updates. The current version on HLDSUpdateTool is 160 (same as Steam).

Max · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (daidalos @ Jan 3 2011, 03:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821291"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Is there going to be a Linux version of the dedicated server?

I apologise for this question but I might as well post it before someone else does. (:</div>
It's planned, but not high priority (sorry, lots of other things to do first).

GaidinTS · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MOOtant @ Jan 3 2011, 06:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821311"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>"The program can't start because d3dx9_42.dll is missing from your computer" Tried to run it on Windows Server 2008 R2.

I installed missing files using dxwebsetup but still it's kind of weird to require DirectX for dedicated server.</div>

Looks like you answered my question about a linux build (Max did too, btw). It appears there are some direct x dependancies in the server.

Martin · January 2011

Do what I did. Do the install, then copy the directx dll over to the root ns2 directory. Problem solved.

WhiteZero · January 2011

Don't you guys want to kind of distance yourself from Half-Life related technologies?
Too many people still think NS2 is on Source as it is.

MOOtant · January 2011

In other words they should rewrite Steam or at least their own updater, spend money on hosting, given 2-3 programmers in whole team? Just because Half-life uses it too? (time spent debugging it would be significantly bigger than writing it, look at NS2 in build 160)

Max · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Jan 3 2011, 06:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821340"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Don't you guys want to kind of distance yourself from Half-Life related technologies?
Too many people still think NS2 is on Source as it is.</div>
The tool has a bad name, it should really be called SteamDSUpdateTool.

Runteh · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Max @ Jan 4 2011, 03:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821352"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>The tool has a bad name, it should really be called SteamDSUpdateTool.</div>

Max, I think you should have a website entrance with an animation where text drops in and smashes into the ground saying:

<span style="color:#FF8C00">
<span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><span style="font-family:Verdana">BETA

SPARK

###### OFF</span></span></span>

EDIT: Having re-read that for myself, I think it might be a little aggressive?

MOOtant · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Max @ Jan 4 2011, 04:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821352"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>The tool has a bad name, it should really be called SteamDSUpdateTool.</div>

After unpacking on Linux it's called "steam". Maybe even after unpacking on Windows.

spellman23 · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runteh @ Jan 3 2011, 07:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821354"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>EDIT: Having re-read that for myself, I think it might be a little aggressive?</div>

ya think?

Anyways, yay auto-updating servers!

scorpydude · January 2011

This is the best server based feature implemented yet.

Thank you. THANK YOU. THANK YOU!!!

Watch the number of dedicated servers explode now!!! (I'll talk to the Ausgamers - Australia Game Hosts today)

WhiteZero · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Max @ Jan 3 2011, 09:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821352"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>The tool has a bad name, it should really be called SteamDSUpdateTool.</div>
Ah, that makes more sense.

Mkilbride · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Jan 4 2011, 06:18 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821378"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Ah, that makes more sense.</div>

Call it NS2DSUpdater

Or NS2DSUP

Dunno. :P

Anyways, that's nice of Valve, always a helping hand.

nirvanaXO · January 2011

I know this is a dumb question, but now that servers don't need all those 2.73 GB to run the game, will the 443 MB make the servers a teensy bit faster now that they don't use so much space to store the game's data?

Jeremiad · January 2011

Hi,

Thanks for bringing NS2 dedi to HLDSupdate tool.

But just a side note. Shouldn't server.exe be located inside ./ns2 folder and not in base folder when you run command:

HLDSUpdateTool -command update -game naturalselection2 -dir .

At least then it would act like most of other dedis do. :)

Price · January 2011

when can everybody host a server without ns2?

Runteh · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spellman23 @ Jan 4 2011, 03:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821359"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>ya think?

Anyways, yay auto-updating servers!</div>

Haha, it was a joke. Or are you playing me at my own game?

surprise · January 2011

OOOhhhhh, exciting for Server Ops! Sweet, thanks!

Now for Linux Servers? ;-)

-WildCat- · January 2011

Excellent! Thanks so much for this. This will make it <i><b>so</b></i> much easier for server operators, which is important for the success of a game that relies on them.

By the way, how do I mark <a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/unknownworlds/topics/use_hldsupdatetool_to_distribute_dedicated_server" target="_blank">my topic on Get Satisfaction</a> as Completed? (Or does that have to be done by you guys?)

PaiSand · January 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jeremiad @ Jan 4 2011, 06:53 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821405"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>But just a side note. Shouldn't server.exe be located inside ./ns2 folder and not in base folder when you run command:

HLDSUpdateTool -command update -game naturalselection2 -dir .</div>
What do you mean?
When you install the server with HLDS you must add at the end of the command the directory where the server files will be located, like is explained on the news post.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (surprise @ Jan 4 2011, 04:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1821481"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Now for Linux Servers? ;-)</div>
See the previous page, Max posts.

Natural Selection 2 News Update - HLDSUpdateTool Support

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