Variable Shotgun barrel choke?

danshyudanshyu Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2105Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Make the shotgun a better stopgap.</div>I've came to realized the shotgun is pretty underpowered right now. They can kill Skulks very well but they do very little to Fades. Since shotguns require the target to be close to deal most damage. And the Fades so far are the most powerful melee attacker in the game. As soon as a Fade blinked his way next to you, you're basically being forced to fight on his term where he's the most powerful. The shotgun no longer has the advatage since the Fade can slash harder and faster than the shotgun can fire.

How I've always viewed the shotguns are that they should be the stopgap weapon for marines before they get the access to tier 2 weapons like the grenade launchers and flamethrowers (both being a bit overpowered right now BTW). And currently if the marines couldn't get the 2nd CC in time before Fade appear it's basically a solid indicator that they're on the slow road to defeat. Though, same goes for the alien who couldn't hold and lock down the CC expansions early, but that is another thread.

My point is, why not make it so that when you right click with the shotgun, you would switch into a tigher barrel choke? Resulting a tighter pattern for your pellets. This means you'd be able to deal fairly decent damage to Fades earlier on in a fight, before they fully close their distance and starts slash spam you. Maybe reduce the rate of fire while in this mode just to keep things balanced.

This would mean that the marines would still have some chance of turning things around even if the aliens manages to put up walls and walls of hydras and whipes in the CC expansions early on. That the marines are forced to fight Fades with their tier 1 weapons.

Comments

  • DracoJJDracoJJ Join Date: 2010-11-26 Member: 75293Members
    why not do the normal secondary attack for shotgun weapons in most games, making the secondary a double barrel shot, not horribly original no, but it has always been a pretty simple fix for a lot of situations, it works in HL2, it works in AVP, why cant it work here too?

    Not to say that your idea isn't good, Id certainly say that if not the double barrel, a longer ranged shot might be a bit better.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I think the main problem with shotgun is shots getting registered and being able to aim well when your fps drops, I was nearly blown apart by a single shot at medium distance as a Lerk.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    that's why you don't rambo
  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    Yes good idea, like it.

    Maybe make the barrel pop out a bit further on the model when the mode is activated.
  • FocusedWolfFocusedWolf Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34258Members
    edited November 2010
    Check this: <a href="http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10964" target="_blank">http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10964</a> It shows someones review of various tactical buckshot loads on targets shot from different distances. These shells do not require a choke to keep their pattern tight because a plastic cup carries the shot tight after it leaves the barrel which mitigates the spread.

    If we go down the road of choke tubes, how about besides tighter constrictions (which is obviously a priority) that we get some specialty ones like a duckbill choke for its supposed ability to create a wider but vertically narrower pattern?

    From a gameplay perspective i would appreciate the ability to change the constriction on the fly via a simple right click. I wonder if those 6 leds on the side of the shotgun can in someway be used to indicate the constriction, since their use as a ammo-readout is already obsolete given the digital counter + intentions to increase capacity to 8 shots...

    O ya how about a buckshot-grenade for the gl (safer for shooting at targets near you then relying on explosive rounds) :P
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