What The **obscenity**!

SkitzSkitz Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7178Members
<div class="IPBDescription">9 year olds!??</div> <a href='http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/South/12/11/school.pot/index.html' target='_blank'>http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/South/12/11/sch....pot/index.html</a>

I feel ill. 9 years old is WAY too young.
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  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I agree, that is way too young for some kids to have drugs. I mean not that people should ever have drugs, but especially not at that young age.
  • DezmodiumDezmodium Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1575Members
    Yes, my mother lives there... I live in south Florida but we always get to hear about crap like that.

    I am an advocate for pot and think it should be legalized, however, Iwould have to say that you are right on this one. 9 year olds are much to young to be smoking pot.

    Legalization is the answer though. I think if pot was legal children wouldnt smoke it as much. When I was in highschool me and my friends always smoked pot because beer was too hard to get. I also beleive that if it was legalized it should definitely have laws of restriction on it such as beer does. Responsibility is the key. Whoever let these kids have the pot is the one to blame... not the pot itself.
  • Teufel_EldritchTeufel_Eldritch Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 124Members
    Im not to hip with kids doing weed. This isnt to say Im anti-weed, far from it. I just think until you are a adult you shouldnt use it. Once you are a adult then sure light up, I dont care.

    Think of what the guy that sold them the weed is going thru right now. He must be sh*tting his pants right now. If he gets caught he is gonna down big time. What a dumazz! Selling weed to kids.
  • SlycasterSlycaster Limited Edition Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 24Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited December 2002
    What a shame... and I still don't understand why people even use marijuana, if you really feel the need to do it, you really need to experience some adrenaline, it's a hundred times better.
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    Where do 9 year olds get the money for Cannabis!?
  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    selling burnt games
  • DezmodiumDezmodium Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1575Members
    edited December 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cyanide+Dec 11 2002, 09:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyanide @ Dec 11 2002, 09:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->you really need to experience some adrenaline, it's a hundreds times better.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what i wouldnt do for a fresh adrenal gland..... know any sellers?


    you know why poeple use marijuana... because they like to be high. Thats why I smoke.

    the same reason people go to church because they want to feel religous... or why poeple watch tv or play a game, they want to feel entertained.
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1333Members
    edited December 2002
    I think what's more sad than third-graders having pot is that they're charged a felony for it, and are facing expulsion... instead of catching real criminals (I just know someone's going to have a problem with that phrase <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->), we're busting third-graders for carrying around a plant. It grows naturally on our planet. We don't outlaw flowers because they smell good, do we? Of course not, and we shouldn't outlaw pot because it makes you high.

    @dezmodium: Couldn't agree with you more man. Good ideas.
  • Evil_bOb1Evil_bOb1 Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 938Members, Squad Five Blue
    Sing with me people...


    Legalize it - don't criticize it
    Legalize it and i will advertise it

    Some call it tampee
    Some call it the weed
    Some call it Marijuana
    Some of them call it Ganja

    Legalize it - don't criticize it
    Legalize it and i will advertise it

    Singer smoke it
    And players of instruments too
    Legalize it, yeah, yeah
    That's the best thing you can do
    Doctors smoke it
    Nurses smoke it
    Judges smoke it
    Even the lawyers too

    Legalize it - don't criticize it
    Legalize it and i will advertise it

    It's good for the flu
    It's good for asthma
    Good for tuberculosis
    Even umara composis

    Legalize it - don't criticize it
    Legalize it and i will advertise it

    Bird eat it
    And they leve it
    Fowls eat it
    Goats love to play with it

    Aint tosh da man?
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Lord_Frodo+Dec 11 2002, 05:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lord_Frodo @ Dec 11 2002, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think what's more sad than third-graders having pot is that they're charged a felony for it, and are facing expulsion... instead of catching real criminals (I just know someone's going to have a problem with that phrase <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->), we're busting third-graders for carrying around a plant. It grows naturally on our planet. We don't outlaw flowers because they smell good, do we? Of course not, and we shouldn't outlaw pot because it makes you high.

    @dezmodium: Couldn't agree with you more man. Good ideas.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is the lamest argument EVER.

    Plants may be "natural" but the effects it gives are part of the plants DEFENCE! Do you go around eating the red berries on plants out in the wild? There are there so people don't go up and eat the freaking plant!

    Yes, it's natural, but it's also there to HURT people who use it. Only humans would get a rise off of the defence of a plant... just look at any spice, the spicy taste is ment to ward off animals who would eat it...
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1333Members
    Use a little more tact next time, 404, yes? Calling my arguments lame makes me less likely to want to hear yours <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.

    So why can we eat spice, dude? I mean, the spice is the plants defense so it's somehow bad for you... or am I reading you wrong? Or is it just this one plant that we need to avoid for some reason...

    The thing is, weed DOESN'T hurt those who use it.

    Of course I don't go out and eat the red berries... they're poison. Marijuana, on the other hand, is not. When weighed against smoking tobbacco, or drinking alcohol, things that are legal in our society, smoking pot is both healthier and safer.
  • DezmodiumDezmodium Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1575Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--404NotFound+Dec 11 2002, 11:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Dec 11 2002, 11:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Plants may be "natural" but the effects it gives are part of the plants DEFENCE! Do you go around eating the red berries on plants out in the wild? There are there so people don't go up and eat the freaking plant!

    Yes, it's natural, but it's also there to HURT people who use it. Only humans would get a rise off of the defence of a plant... just look at any spice, the spicy taste is ment to ward off animals who would eat it...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i suppose the curing power of aloe vera is the plants plants defence too huh?

    shoot, and i have such dry skin.
  • Teufel_EldritchTeufel_Eldritch Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 124Members
    Cannabis has actually adapted to live with humans. It has been found even in the earliest of human developments. Cannabis and humankind have a symbiotic relationship.....or at they did until this century. Ever since the 1930's however cannabis has been viewed as evil in the West.
  • FloppyDiskFloppyDisk Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10648Members
    omfg, skitz, you sexy **obscenity** :o, you really do need to revive #rs-trivia :o <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    posts like that don't help the argument but what ever

    now then:
    I am for legilization (country would make somuch money off of taxes, it would be controlable, it would be saffer (no more pcp/weedkiller/ratpoison etC), the list goes on)

    however please do get facts straight

    weed is bad for you, infact one joint is much worse then one cig (it is true) HOWEVER!! you smoke weed in much smaller quanteties (talking your casual user vs casual smoker and habitual user vs chain smoker type thing)

    so the effects come out to be less (they are not actualy less)

    yes I have smoked up once (didn't get high, bah just slightly giggly ;D)
    I don't advocate the use, I personaly think it should be a personal choice.
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Lord_Frodo+Dec 11 2002, 05:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lord_Frodo @ Dec 11 2002, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think what's more sad than third-graders having pot is that they're charged a felony for it, and are facing expulsion... instead of catching real criminals (I just know someone's going to have a problem with that phrase <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->), we're busting third-graders for carrying around a plant. It grows naturally on our planet. We don't outlaw flowers because they smell good, do we? Of course not, and we shouldn't outlaw pot because it makes you high.

    @dezmodium: Couldn't agree with you more man. Good ideas.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    cocaine and opium come from plants too. Should we legalize them? Last i check flowers arent a gate way drug that cause dependency.
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1333Members
    edited December 2002
    Cocaine and opium are refined via human processes from plants. Weed IS a plant. It's once we start screwing with nature that we get things all twisted up. (heh, I sound like a damn hippy)

    Weed isn't a "gate way drug" either. God how I'm sick of hearing that phrase. There is NO reason, NONE whatsoever, to turn to harder drugs after you've smoked weed. My personal experience was starting out with harder drugs and going back DOWN the ladder to weed.

    Marijuana causing dependency... yes, I suppose it can happen and has happened, but the incidence of addiction is so rare as to be negligible. The vast majority of smokers do not and will not have trouble with dependency/addiction.

    You can also become 'addicted' to things like reading, food, sleep, etc... it's about the same ballpark as weed as far as likelihood of addiction is concerned.
  • MerkabaMerkaba Digital Harmony Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 22Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    edited December 2002
    I was going to reply to this with my own views and points, but Lord Frodo has said pretty much exactly what I was going to say. Weed is hideously branded as being evil, despite the fact that it's simply a herb which mellows you out and makes you calm. Sure, it may make you care less about things which may seem important, but god damn it, if you find your life in a mess from smoking weed then I'm pretty sure thats YOUR fault, and not the herbs.

    I've had some amazing times, and still do, smoking the stuff. I've had bad times too though, of course. but then, I've had bad nights out down the pub too...does that mean pubs be made illegal? Because of the possibility of having a bad time? I've had bad haircuts. Should haircuts be made illegal...? Every case for the prohibition of marijuana can be chopped to pieces by someone with half a brain. The only reason the law still holds together is because of ignorance amongst so many people. And many people ARE ignorant.
  • SoBe_DragonSoBe_Dragon Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10465Members
    heh, that brings me back to the topic that i just started. Wow, 12 year old kids are now possessing illegal drugs, but gosh darn it, they better not say that i am a "butt" in the video games! hu-huck! I mean, some guys avatar is a marijuana leaf...ah thats cool, but dont say that 3 letter slang word, whoo boy that could mean loads of trouble for the kiddies! Ok back on topic...

    This country is going straight to hell. Its all because of this generation of parenting. Kids like that take illegal drugs into their hands because they dont fear what their parents will think. 12 years old....when i was 12 years old, my biggest problem was how to beat Vega on super street fighter. I didnt even know what weed or marijuana was...
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Just a friendly note - I don't want to join the discussion (if you want to get my opinion on the topic, buy yourself a Bill Hicks CD), but should it start to become flamey and / or serious drugtalk, it'll get locked faster than you can say 'My god! I can see the music!'.
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    Serioulsy though you cant use the argument that just because something occurs naturally it isint harmful. Botulinum Toxin is one of the most lethal and potin poisons in the world and it dosent have to be refined at all. Some kids in my home town were eating a flower that got them high but they also died from it a couple hours later.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Problem is that both the tobacco and liquor industry used just that argument to justify the legal status of their products, which are, as you'll have to admit, by far worse drugs than canabis.

    Do we see people going around calling cigarettes a gateway drug? No, because it's been legal for ages. You don't have to meet a dealer - who's interested in getting you hooked up to harder stuff - to get them, you just go into your next mall and buy the stuff - unless you live in California, that is.
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    alcohol prolly 10 times worse then marijuana, Never heard of a guy after a joint raping his kids.

    Tobacco though isint as bad as marijuana its just u can smoke more cigarrets cause its legal.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    The addictivity is way higher. Nicotin is one of the most addicting substances on Earth - worse than heroin.
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1333Members
    @Nemesis Zero: I LOVE Bill Hicks! I'm actually watching the Revelations video now <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Teufel_EldritchTeufel_Eldritch Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 124Members
    edited December 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Dec 11 2002, 05:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Dec 11 2002, 05:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->weed is bad for you, infact one joint is much worse then one cig (it is true)......<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Got any proof that it is worse for you?
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Teufel Eldritch+Dec 12 2002, 02:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teufel Eldritch @ Dec 12 2002, 02:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Dec 11 2002, 05:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Dec 11 2002, 05:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->weed is bad for you, infact one joint is much worse then one cig (it is true)......<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Got any proof that it is worse for you?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't have any proof, but I hear it's only worse because a joint has no filter.

    As for Frodo, if someone is addicted to hard drugs then they probably are in no condition to post on forums... They have one thing on their mind: drugs.

    Is pot a gateway drug? I'm not sure. It does vary. My cousin is now a heroin addict and started with pot, but you would never hear from him because he's all like... in jail and such.


    As for the plant defence thing, a spice isn't defending itself by being BAD for you, but rather trying to drive you away with that "spicy" taste that it gives.

    Not all plants have these, Mr. Dry Skin, but I was giving examples of how just because something is a plant doesn't make it instantly good for your.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I got myself some informations from my father who's got to deal with this topic in his job (he's working in a prison).

    There is no study that shows severe or irreversible damages by marijuana. None.
    The rumors about impotence / lower IQs / what have you got are as trustworthy as Bushs war against economic corruption. There are reports about slight psychic deformations of long-time consumers, but those did disappear when the drug wasn't consumed for a while, which is, considering the very low addictivity, very well possible.

    The danger that lies in a joint comes from the tobacco that's mixed into the canabis, which can of course cause the well known damages. A joint will therefore always do less damage to you than a comparable filterless cigarette.
  • SoBe_DragonSoBe_Dragon Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10465Members
    One joint is not worse for you then one cigerrte. Marijuana is a naturally occuring herb, cigerettes or tobacco is artifically made with chemicals that are extremely harmful. The worst of these is called nicotine, which is the addictive supliment in cigerettes.

    I have never smoked anything in my life (not even a cig) but I can understand why marijuana should be leagalized. The only reason alcohol and tobacco is legal is because it helped fund the revolution. In EVERY respect, cigerettes and alcohol are worse than marijuana. The only harm that I can see marijuana having is that it could be a gateway to other more deadly drugs.

    These statements are not from experience, just from friends that smoke da shiz. When you smoke marijuana everyone is your friend, you dont wanna hurt anyone or do anything bad. You just wanna chill out and laugh. Alcohol on the other hand can make you violent and agressive. Have you ever heard of some guy that was high when he beat up his wife and kids? I dont think so. Ben Franklin was smoking weed when he discovered electricity. I mean, think about it....How roasted do you have to be to fly a kite in a thunder-storm? Almost every single character in lotr is smoking weed to. In the beginning of the book they have a section called "Concerning pipe weed" lol.

    <b>God made weed, man made beer, who do you trust?</b>
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    umm, side note (psych student here)

    weed is actualy HIGHLY addictive, just not in the normal use of the word, weed causes a psychological addiction (no physical dependance but still a 'craving' for it)

    yes it is true you can get addicted to food and such also, it is just less comon b/c the good feeling you get from a big mac just aint as good as that from a joint.


    Again I am for the legalization of most drugs (including alot of harder ones), this is due to thhe amount of benafits to SOCIETY that could be gained:

    1) provide farmers with aditional income (hell lots do it any way)

    2) turn osme of that nonusable land into greenhouses, ahh more weed

    3) home grown weed =
    a) money not leaving the country to go to marajuana imports
    b) money now going to farmers (trus me they need it)
    c) TAXES we could tax the stuf up the **obscenity** andf you know what, it would still probably be cheaper then what you pay for now

    4) 'controlled' substances REALY WOULD BE!! ie no more tobaco, rat poison, weedkiller, pcp (never buy/smoke peprmint smelling weed), oregano etc.

    5) harder drugs can also be controlled through similar things


    basicaly none of my arguments are 'I like weed' (mainly b/c I have only smoked up once) they are simply common sence


    oh well, at all I have to say

    oh and as for smoking weed being bad for you, well there is all the crap in it as well as sucking smoke into your lungs (it just aint good for you), if filters would help, I don't know
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