Where is everyone?

elmonenelmonen Join Date: 2009-06-20 Member: 67879Members, Reinforced - Gold
in NS2 General Discussion
Where are the players? maybe I'm trying to play at the wrong time but for the past two weeks or so.. everytime I log in there is maybe 2-5 players.. all servers empty :/ Just now I looked and only one player..
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  • KarbaKarba Join Date: 2006-09-23 Member: 58040Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Gold
    cyclic post again and again and again.....

    extremely low fps + lag + warping = empty servers
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  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    Basically what Karba is trying to say is,
    Players are playing something playable (not NS2).
    Come back with the new patch.
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  • GeneralBowserGeneralBowser Join Date: 2010-05-19 Member: 71801Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1796648:date=Aug 28 2010, 12:27 PM:name=Karba)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Karba @ Aug 28 2010, 12:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796648"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->cyclic post again and again and again.....

    extremely low fps + lag + warping = empty servers<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As said here.

    I'm testing every patch if it's any better, but until it is I can't do any testing..

    Example test of last patch:
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J_h0gShy_Y" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J_h0gShy_Y</a>

    At least we got black armor :)
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited August 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1796661:date=Aug 28 2010, 04:20 PM:name=GeneralBowser)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GeneralBowser @ Aug 28 2010, 04:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796661"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->At least we get the privilege to experience the development process from within the alpha engine test. And are able to help with bug-reports on lot's of different systems<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fixed <img src="http://members.home.nl/m.borgman/ns-forum/smileys/tongue.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />






    The term "Alpha" is obviously not understood by 90% of the public, it is an engine test that keeps being improved upon. It will become playable sometime in the future, but to expect it right from the get go... That is wishful thinking to say the least

    But yeah after everything you can test with each patch has basically been done, the servers tend to turn into ghost towns until the next patch, there is only so much we can test...



    TLDR; (not really)

    They're all in nancy's RR rave room!
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  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1796668:date=Aug 28 2010, 10:40 AM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Aug 28 2010, 10:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796668"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They're all in nancy's RR rave room!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    is that the blackish room that's connected by a long corridor hidden by a walk-throughable wall? i feel bad for remembering that
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1796680:date=Aug 28 2010, 07:30 PM:name=DJPenguin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DJPenguin @ Aug 28 2010, 07:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796680"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->is that the blackish room that's connected by a long corridor hidden by a walk-throughable wall? i feel bad for remembering that<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    SHHT! It's a secret! <img src="http://members.home.nl/m.borgman/ns-forum/smileys/biggrin.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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  • Baron_Bad_EggBaron_Bad_Egg Join Date: 2004-07-09 Member: 29823Banned
    idk if u can say untestable is really experiencing the development of the game. it doesnt need to be playable like as in finished. i just want to be able to simply TEST the alpha and GIVE FEEDBACK and EXPERIENCE THE ALPHA that i had paid for. for the last few weeks i havent been able to do ne of that.

    and a privilege? we paid for it.
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  • EzekielEzekiel Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3006Members
    playable != finished

    it is an alpha. alphaaaaaa.
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  • Baron_Bad_EggBaron_Bad_Egg Join Date: 2004-07-09 Member: 29823Banned
    but how can u test it... when u cant move?
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  • Skyforger2Skyforger2 Join Date: 2007-10-19 Member: 62681Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1796707:date=Aug 28 2010, 11:20 PM:name=Baron_Bad_Egg)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Baron_Bad_Egg @ Aug 28 2010, 11:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796707"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->but how can u test it... when u cant move?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Delete yourself and your computer.
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  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1796711:date=Aug 28 2010, 05:44 PM:name=Skyforger2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Skyforger2 @ Aug 28 2010, 05:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796711"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Delete yourself and your computer.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    system 32
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  • Baron_Bad_EggBaron_Bad_Egg Join Date: 2004-07-09 Member: 29823Banned
    damn i just got nerd pwned
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  • Bitey Bitey Yum YumsBitey Bitey Yum Yums Join Date: 2010-05-03 Member: 71610Members
    This game needs to become playable before I suggest anything.
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  • Baron_Bad_EggBaron_Bad_Egg Join Date: 2004-07-09 Member: 29823Banned
    <!--quoteo(post=1796757:date=Aug 29 2010, 05:22 AM:name=Bitey Bitey Yum Yums)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bitey Bitey Yum Yums @ Aug 29 2010, 05:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796757"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This game needs to become <i>a game</i> before I suggest anything.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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  • ExroathExroath Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72441Members
    Im rarely online due to 2 things . 1 people complaining about the game constantly while online
    2. people not understanding what an alpha entails and that game isnt balanced

    that also goes to the forum, tbh if it was me i'd have a giant pop up saying "its a ###### alpha test" everytime the forum loads , but thats just me
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  • saltybp53saltybp53 Join Date: 2010-07-22 Member: 72675Members
    I can play the alpha fine...and my computer is 5.6 years old. Maybe it's because I ignore the lag with loud, fitting pop music :D
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  • willcountswillcounts Join Date: 2010-08-14 Member: 73627Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1796705:date=Aug 28 2010, 10:16 PM:name=Baron_Bad_Egg)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Baron_Bad_Egg @ Aug 28 2010, 10:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796705"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->idk if u can say untestable is really experiencing the development of the game. it doesnt need to be playable like as in finished. i just want to be able to simply TEST the alpha and GIVE FEEDBACK and EXPERIENCE THE ALPHA that i had paid for. for the last few weeks i havent been able to do ne of that.

    and a privilege? we paid for it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I find it funny/sad/surprising that someone who bothered to register in 2004 would actually complain like this. Would you be happy if we actually hadn't got to test any of it yet, and were still waiting? I think they are improving it as fast as they can, and this alpha being out already probably isn't slowing it down.
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  • Baron_Bad_EggBaron_Bad_Egg Join Date: 2004-07-09 Member: 29823Banned
    my registration date has nothing to do with how long ive played this game. it was probably when i first registered to ###### about their company being a piece of ######. they r talking about crag and ###### to fill time gaps, u're retarded to not see that. and even those "updates" should have been done already... still debating on ART? u took preorders about a year ago.....
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  • TurbosniglenTurbosniglen Join Date: 2010-08-13 Member: 73607Members
    Next patch should be here any day now :)
    By the way, the devs don't work on weekends right? Because the progress page never seem to change on weekends.
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  • DecipherDecipher Join Date: 2003-06-19 Member: 17512Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1796868:date=Aug 30 2010, 04:31 AM:name=Turbosniglen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Turbosniglen @ Aug 30 2010, 04:31 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796868"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Next patch should be here any day now :)
    By the way, the devs don't work on weekends right? Because the progress page never seem to change on weekends.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Everyone has a life. Devs included and im sure its well deserved.
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  • DecipherDecipher Join Date: 2003-06-19 Member: 17512Members
    Also in one reply to everyone complaining. Which seems ever too common.

    You paid for the game, Alpha access was a bonus not something you paid for (infact the games more expensive now)

    Regarding the game you can join a server, play a team and shoot each other.
    You can upgrade, get GL's, Shotguns or play lerk and all play fairly well. Im on an older machine I just turned down the graphics and it was ok. Playable for testing purposes definately, I could do everything and anything I wanted.
    Its the equivalent at the moment of playing on a server in another country
    While the core workings are fine, some smaller issues need to be resolved.

    Should you want a playable version wait for the 'Beta' this should be a near complete playable version of the game which you will also get access for. Alpha is a rough development stage which occurs after the core parts of the game are complete. Stick with it and it will become progressively more playable as it evolves.

    Also if you want to play with people the best time is the day or two after a patch you will typically find some people testing it out.
    Give it a shot then, rather than 2 weeks after everyone has finished testing, reported the bugs and waiting for the next patch.
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  • chopperchopper Join Date: 2009-05-29 Member: 67537Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1796877:date=Aug 30 2010, 08:45 AM:name=Decipher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Decipher @ Aug 30 2010, 08:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796877"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Regarding the game you can join a server, play a team and shoot each other.
    You can upgrade, get GL's, Shotguns or play lerk and all play fairly well. Im on an older machine I just turned down the graphics and it was ok. Playable for testing purposes definately, I could do everything and anything I wanted.
    Its the equivalent at the moment of playing on a server in another country
    While the core workings are fine, some smaller issues need to be resolved.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That is simply not true for public servers. Not even basic movement is possible. Seems like everyone has blink to random locations.
    I logged into a server for about 15 min, tried to play the skulk for testing purposes. After hopelessly blinking around clueless marines (who also warped around trying to shoot at me), I disconnected and waited for the next patch. Patch 151 came around and it seems that nothing has changed. I didn't even bother logging in.

    So forget about being playable. It is not testable. Period. Don't try to spin it any other way. And don't say it's an alpha, it doesn't matter. You look stupid when you try to defend the playable/testable state of the game.

    Just let them work on the net code or whatever is causing the lag and pretend the game is not out yet, but don't say there's nothing wrong with it because it's alpha. It's idiotic. They released a product that can't be tested. (at least not longer than 2 min., which is to test connection to servers).
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
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    No idea what that text says, used as placeholder... But hey, holds probably water vs the <b>yes and no</b> battles going on on these here forums...

    And I thought I was bored...
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  • AvalonAvalon Join Date: 2007-03-04 Member: 60224Members
    edited August 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1796884:date=Aug 30 2010, 04:42 PM:name=chopper)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopper @ Aug 30 2010, 04:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796884"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That is simply not true for public servers. Not even basic movement is possible. Seems like everyone has blink to random locations.
    I logged into a server for about 15 min, tried to play the skulk for testing purposes. After hopelessly blinking around clueless marines (who also warped around trying to shoot at me), I disconnected and waited for the next patch. Patch 151 came around and it seems that nothing has changed. I didn't even bother logging in.

    So forget about being playable. It is not testable. Period. Don't try to spin it any other way. And don't say it's an alpha, it doesn't matter. You look stupid when you try to defend the playable/testable state of the game.

    Just let them work on the net code or whatever is causing the lag and pretend the game is not out yet, but don't say there's nothing wrong with it because it's alpha. It's idiotic. They released a product that can't be tested. (at least not longer than 2 min., which is to test connection to servers).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Sorry, but just because you have warping issues, does not make it so for everyone else, so there's no point in telling other people the game is untestable when they can play it. I do not suffer from such issues and many whom I play with also do not have that problem. I've been able to successfully engage in combat, and despite the low fps, test everything out.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Ah yes, the fact of an engine test (alpha), that doesn't work on all systems. As explained many times!

    But no!!! "It doesn't work on my system, so it can't work on other systems..." What did you take the plane to all of the 10.000 pre-order people's towns and had a look at their game performance over their shoulder. That is pretty impressive and expensive...


    Yes/no battles, where one is factual correct and the other ignorant to that fact... Lovely ain't it?
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  • chopperchopper Join Date: 2009-05-29 Member: 67537Members
    edited August 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1796890:date=Aug 30 2010, 11:23 AM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Aug 30 2010, 11:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796890"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ah yes, the fact of an engine test (alpha), that doesn't work on all systems. As explained many times!

    But no!!! "It doesn't work on my system, so it can't work on other systems..." What did you take the plane to all of the 10.000 pre-order people's towns and had a look at their game performance over their shoulder. That is pretty impressive and expensive...


    Yes/no battles, where one is factual correct and the other ignorant to that fact... Lovely ain't it?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It doesn't have to do with one's system buddy. It has nothing to do with fps count, it has to do with server latency, lag, etc. On public servers where people join in droves it makes it impossible to play (hence test gameplay). I can walk around in maps on LAN/local servers without lag and I get decent fps. It's not about that, get it? Don't be a smart ass. Can you see beyond this line of reason, or are you ignorant to that fact?. Yes or no?
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  • saltybp53saltybp53 Join Date: 2010-07-22 Member: 72675Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1796895:date=Aug 30 2010, 01:07 PM:name=chopper)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopper @ Aug 30 2010, 01:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796895"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It doesn't have to do with one's system buddy. It has nothing to do with fps count, it has to do with server latency, lag, etc. On public servers where people join in droves it makes it impossible to play (hence test gameplay). I can walk around in maps on LAN/local servers without lag and I get decent fps. It's not about that, get it? Don't be a smart ass. Can you see beyond this line of reason, or are you ignorant to that fact?. Yes or no?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Flaming aside, it does have to do with fps rates in additon to lag and internet problems. This game wont run like mw2 smooth so the best you can do is wait. Alpha=open engine test
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited August 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1796895:date=Aug 30 2010, 07:07 PM:name=chopper)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopper @ Aug 30 2010, 07:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796895"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It doesn't have to do with one's system buddy. It has nothing to do with fps count, it has to do with server latency, lag, etc. On public servers where people join in droves it makes it impossible to play (hence test gameplay). I can walk around in maps on LAN/local servers without lag and I get decent fps. It's not about that, get it? Don't be a smart ass. Can you see beyond this line of reason, or are you ignorant to that fact?. Yes or no?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I could be ignorant to it if it was indeed a fact, but it is somewhat lacking...

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    <div align='center'><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQCPoTERvYw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQCPoTERvYw</a>
    Sure it it not the smoothest, but still quite playable and much better then on first release...</div>

    But tell me, where did I say anything about the <b>FPS</b> performance specifically? Network communication also involves clients side to send and receive data, which the server then processes (just as the clients do). But a bogged down clientside computer with FPS issues, will probably also have some trouble sending data trough the tubes, what with the cpu/gpu being hogged by some unknown (or known) engine bug/memoryleak or other hardware specific issues...

    It is also possible the network is actually running somewhat smooth... But on a bogged down system that is experiencing local performance issues, you can't really see this due to the FPS issue it might have...
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  • willcountswillcounts Join Date: 2010-08-14 Member: 73627Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1796867:date=Aug 30 2010, 09:29 AM:name=Baron_Bad_Egg)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Baron_Bad_Egg @ Aug 30 2010, 09:29 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796867"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->u're retarded<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Just took a peek at your posts and it's amazing how much more cohesive and intelligent your writing was back then. I guess you're suffering from something that causes severe mental degeneration over time? I'm sorry, and understand your pain now, as you never can't be sure if you'll actually be able to actually play the game due to this when it's finally playable.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1796902:date=Aug 30 2010, 07:38 PM:name=willcounts)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (willcounts @ Aug 30 2010, 07:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1796902"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just took a peek at your posts and it's amazing how much more cohesive and intelligent your writing was back then. I guess you're suffering from something that causes severe mental degeneration over time? I'm sorry, and understand your pain now, as you never can't be sure if you'll actually be able to actually play the game due to this when it's finally playable.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Cmon now, no need to start flame-baiting <img src="http://members.home.nl/m.borgman/ns-forum/smileys/shifty.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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