Age verification?
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<div class="IPBDescription">I'm curious why this is so common</div>Out of curiosity:
We've all seen the trailer or teaser website for a new game which requires age verification: A drop down box where you can choose your age.
Why does this exist? Is it required in some countries? And if so, why enforce something so easilly bypassed? Or is it also used as a demographics data mining tool?
Anyone got any insight on this?
We've all seen the trailer or teaser website for a new game which requires age verification: A drop down box where you can choose your age.
Why does this exist? Is it required in some countries? And if so, why enforce something so easilly bypassed? Or is it also used as a demographics data mining tool?
Anyone got any insight on this?
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I heard that they've come up with something new here in EU tho. Your ID has a verification code. If they ask you to verify your age, you put in that code and they check a database for your age.
Highly big brothery but the only thing that works.
Except you know, if you have an older sibling.
... Didnt know the cofee was hot, its McD´s foult i burned myself! - Woman won and is now a millionare - result, coffe mugs are now labeled whit "hot stuff" inside at 7/11, McD and other places that sells to-go warm drinks.
...Woman sues cigarate companies for getting cancer, becouse the warnings didnt mensure her by name. - result she lost, but it only shows that US citizens sues companies for everything.
... Didnt know the cofee was hot, its McD´s foult i burned myself! - Woman won and is now a millionare - result, coffe mugs are now labeled whit "hot stuff" inside at 7/11, McD and other places that sells to-go warm drinks.
...Woman sues cigarate companies for getting cancer, becouse the warnings didnt mensure her by name. - result she lost, but it only shows that US citizens sues companies for everything.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep. This only makes the honest, hard working citizens look bad to the entire world. Problem is, some companies, including our own government, like to ###### citizens over hardcore, and like to pretty much "steal" your money. Therefore, although reasons are unintelligent for suit, I can empathize why citizens are driven to such terrible practices.
For instance, I bought a 92 Camaro 350ci, 70k original miles on Friday the 13th. Saturday morning (2:30am) some mexican in his F150 flies around the corner, crashes into my car, wraps it around a lightpole, and ends up in my front yard. The car was to be obviously towed, and the police told me I would only need a ID and the title (even though the title was transfered yet into my name). I went to the police station and they were giving me the run around, saying I needed to transfer the title into my name ($130) just to get a tow release slip, so the insurance company can look it at.
I was expected to waste $130? Then they change their mind again, stating they wanted proof of insurance on that car. Are they MAD!? I just bought the damn car on Friday. Not less than 24hrs later did my car that cost $2800 get totaled by some ###### retard.
Point of this is, despite why people believe, our country ###### blows. I sometimes hope it gets bombed. People are so ignorant anymore.
So yes.. there's a difference between 'coffee' hot and 'napalm that will melt the flesh from your bones' hot.
As far as the age-dropdowns, I'd agree that it always came across as a CYA measure for kids who looked at something that might offend them or their parents. 'But Timmy is six!' 'Timmy said he was 23, ma'am. Keep a closer eye on him and have a talk about his lying someday.'
So yes.. there's a difference between 'coffee' hot and 'napalm that will melt the flesh from your bones' hot.[...]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Was that McDonald's? I'm almost sure it was a different restaurant. At any rate, they ALSO used cups made of a styrofoam that became unstable at the boiling point of water, and they had been warned about this on a previous occasion. THEY SERVED SCALDING COFFEE IN CUPS THAT MELTED. Not clever.
i find it highly discriminating they dont have the 1800s for us 111+ year-old oldtimers :(
Yup. The coffee that they were serving was so hot that it produced third degree burns within like... 6 seconds of it being on your skin.
I heard it the way many did back then (that it was a dumb lady and a non-issue), but there really was a lot more to it then that. They had their coffee too hot, they knew they had it too hot, yet they failed to change it. The lady who made that lawsuit was not the first. There were hundreds of others who got paid of by McD's before this. She was just the first one to actually not settle out of court.
<!--quoteo(post=1794748:date=Aug 17 2010, 08:14 AM:name=Corporal_Fortier)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Corporal_Fortier @ Aug 17 2010, 08:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1794748"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->At any rate, I'd like to see how many people are supposedly born on January 1st thanks to this.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1794750:date=Aug 17 2010, 08:32 AM:name=puzl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (puzl @ Aug 17 2010, 08:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1794750"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm three mousewheel flicks old, and have been for several years.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I too was born on 1/1/3MF
<!--quoteo(post=1794803:date=Aug 17 2010, 06:09 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psyke @ Aug 17 2010, 06:09 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1794803"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I too was born on 1/1/3MF<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Damned be the devs who do not implement mousewheel support in their flash thingy! How old are you in these cases?
There's a law that says that children under a certain age are not allowed to enter any information about them. It's to keep them from compromising their own safety. That's probably the biggest reason for age verification forms all over the place...
There's also the mature content type of verification, but that is obvious.
<!--quoteo(post=1794907:date=Aug 17 2010, 10:22 PM:name=Corporal_Fortier)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Corporal_Fortier @ Aug 17 2010, 10:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1794907"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Damned be the devs who do not implement mousewheel support in their flash thingy! How old are you in these cases?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I believe mouse flick to scroll rate conversion is approximately 1 second per 2 mouse flicks.
... Didnt know the cofee was hot, its McD´s foult i burned myself! - Woman won and is now a millionare - result, coffe mugs are now labeled whit "hot stuff" inside at 7/11, McD and other places that sells to-go warm drinks.
...Woman sues cigarate companies for getting cancer, becouse the warnings didnt mensure her by name. - result she lost, but it only shows that US citizens sues companies for everything.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually Mdonalds was negligent, I tried playing devils advocate with someone who actually knew the case and I got destroyed. They superheated the coffee (when there was no need to, were talking 200 deg F + when it only needs to be 120 ish) and the woman had 3rd degree burns. Mcdonalds elected not to cover her medical expenses so she sued for those, and just happened to get a fat settlement'
As far as age verification goes, there are laws in place in the US that disallow collection of information for 13 and below
*ahem* This information has already been posted. (read my two posts above yours)
Though you did use the proper wording (e.g. negligent) that I couldn't remember, and the actual age of the law and such.
But you did miss the fact that not only was McD negligent for super-heating the coffee, they knew it because they had already paid off a ton of other people. That's the reason this woman got a fat settlement. To teach McD a lesson for continuing to keep the coffee at that temp even though it was repeatedly causing serious burns to people.
I don't think the 10 yo kids know what the laws are well enough to reliably answer this. Everyone even as young as 6 knows their birthday though.
This is true. I definitely had learned how to subvert these dialogs before I was 13.
(This often required clearing cookies and restarting the browser... sometimes reseting the ip...)
I have had one site tell me I was too old and to please enter my real age.
Infact I can think of 2 sites instantly that do this, both have names that are parodies of youtube...
Also joining the born in 1900 crowd.
Wow. When and where was this? I worked at McDonalds 3 years ago for 2 years, during that time and 5 years before when the store opened the coffee machine was never and had never been designed to keep coffee hot. There was a bay to keep milk hot and hot water was used as required inside the machine and the beans were ground at the time.
That sounds more like a café/diner system you've described, not a <40 second 'fast' coffee design.
(Just so you know what I mean, this is more or less the model of the one I've seen used and I've not seen another B+W machine differ much from this design in any UK McDonalds <a href="http://www.javarepublic.com/iopen24/images/content_images/B%26W%20CTMF5.png" target="_blank">http://www.javarepublic.com/iopen24/images...26W%20CTMF5.png</a> )
Most people are aware she spilled it in a car, with the cup between her knees, which in my experience has led to most people assuming she was driving the car when it happened. She was actually in the passenger seat while the car was stopped, and was holding it between her knees while she was opening it to add cream and sugar.
Also apparently at the time, McDonalds served coffee from their drive-thru windows at 82-88c (180-190F). Which is very hot indeed.
And yes, age verification things are incredibly useless, especially since most of them will let you retry if you get a "no" after entering an age that's too young.
That's all I needed.
Regional differences don't often occur now as by law McDonalds can only use certain machines as a standard of consistency across the business. I think they all have to be "Black & White" brand now. Probably reasonable to think it was less slack in '94.