Hard core ns1 fan ?

Skyforger2Skyforger2 Join Date: 2007-10-19 Member: 62681Members
<div class="IPBDescription">... still playing after 7 years and loving it, maybe to much.</div>I play NS since 16 i am now 24 and i still play ns1 daily. And the more i see NS2 ... it's kinda weird as i wait for Friday update like mad but when i see ns2 maps they are off course awesome but they are not ns1. I think with NS2 ns has lost it's ns look ( although everybody says it's hasn't )
I think it will never bee as close as cool as ns. It may be more better game but it won't be ns.

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  • ED0ggYED0ggY Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17103Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    For me its hard to say that till a pre-alpha release. or even a beta release. but im also getting excited for those Friday Updates waiting for a the words "pre-Alpha released" haha
  • PipiPipi Join Date: 2009-12-09 Member: 69550Members
    You'll have to make your mind up to it, it's going to be a different game, not a remake. But a sequel that is (not in a storyline matter though)

    As to me, I just hope I'll have the same very good time and unique fun playing all those crazy games in NS2 that happened to be in NS1.
  • QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited May 2010
    I've gone back to playing some NS1 lately after being excited about NS2. I haven't played in such a long time, and boy do I suck at it. I used to be so good...but it's good practice to prepare for NS2 I suppose. But I share your concerns. I certainly like the better graphics of NS2, but I don't like the atmosphere the maps have. It's way too dark IMHO. I'm also skeptical of some of the major gameplay changes(like removing the epic long battles), but I'll withhold judgement on all that until the beta comes out.
  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    edited May 2010
    Well it isn't going to look like NS1 because NS1 is rather low fidelity, it doesn't have a lot of detail in it and to be honest, a lot of it is left to your imagination.

    Much like the original half life, there is enough stuff to set the theme and the ideas of an area, but there is no detail, it's all added by your memory after the fact.

    Just as with anything that does that, how you interpret the world gives it very much your own visual slant, as more detail is added to games they become more interesting to look at, but they also become less open to interpretation, because there is less detail for your mind to fill in. This can be a bad thing to some because some people believe that making something your own is a vital part of the appeal, and on the other hand it can be a good thing because it means there is more depth to the environments if you aren't prone to making up your own.

    It's similar to books and movies, a book doesn't give you much detail, it gives you enough to allow your mind to fill in the rest however you think it should, it represents the environment rather than presenting it with perfect accuracy, a film by its nature tells you everything about what you see because you can see it in front of you, when you go from book to film the film is not going to be the same as the book, because it's unlikely you shared the filmmaker's vision of the book, but that doesn't stop such conversions from becoming very good films.

    Personally I don't mind either, as long as it looks <i>good</i> I don't care what it looks <i>like.</i>
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1770675:date=May 11 2010, 12:48 AM:name=Skyforger2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Skyforger2 @ May 11 2010, 12:48 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1770675"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I play NS since 16 i am now 24 and i still play ns1 daily. And the more i see NS2 ... it's kinda weird as i wait for Friday update like mad but when i see ns2 maps they are off course awesome but they are not ns1. I think with NS2 ns has lost it's ns look ( although everybody says it's hasn't )
    I think it will never bee as close as cool as ns. It may be more better game but it won't be ns.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Depends on the mappers is all I'm gonnah say... Also stop harassing UWE's webserver with your F5 button :P
  • PneumaticCrabPneumaticCrab Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10133Members
    ahhah you dont even know what the ###### being a hardcore fan is. i dropped out of highschool to play this game. ns stole the best years of my youth from me thats ###### hardcore ###### not this lalal i played for a couple fo years nonsense now im ###### addicted to stimulants and cant find a job because i dont have an education you son of a ###### you think youre ###### hardcore?
  • Skyforger2Skyforger2 Join Date: 2007-10-19 Member: 62681Members
    ... yesh the topic is more about ns1 and ns2 look and feel rather than how i much i wait for update.

    So yes like if u take some ns1 map screnshot and then some ns2 level somehow and i don't know why i like the ns1 more,
    and i don't understand why.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Nostalgia! With Spark we could make it look like NS, but adding stuff to the NS makes it twice the NS it ever was (NS2?) :D
  • DrummerDrummer Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26654Members
    the problem i think you're running into is the ns2 maps arent finished at all, and yes, they dont have that "feel" to them, but that certainly doesnt mean that ns2 wont be able to recreate that feel. once we get maps fully designed by the good mappers in our community that know exactly what you're talking about, i have a strong feeling you'll feel right at home in those maps. theres lots of factors that go into making a good all-around map in ns, and the "feel" is certainly important to UWE, as they have stated. so if you stay patient and keep looking at the maps as they develop, im sure you'll start to get that atmospheric "feel" that makes ns so unique
  • xposed-xposed- Join Date: 2007-09-23 Member: 62412Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1770703:date=May 11 2010, 09:39 AM:name=PneumaticCrab)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PneumaticCrab @ May 11 2010, 09:39 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1770703"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i dropped out of highschool to play this game. ns stole the best years of my youth from me thats ###### hardcore ###### not this lalal i played for a couple fo years nonsense now im ###### addicted to stimulants and cant find a job because i dont have an education you son of a ###### you think youre ###### hardcore?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    hardcore != stupid
  • FehaFeha Join Date: 2006-11-16 Member: 58633Members
    I agree with xposed (but I am not hardcore at all XD, I am one of those casual gamers (I think)).

    I got one word tho, which explains everything. Nostalgia. Such a case for me is ra, I played it when I was very young (so I didnt play very much), then I started with ra2, and that I played alot, for years, so when ra3 came I could agree it was a decent game, maybe 6-7/10, but it felt like 4/10 as it was compared to ra2. The curse of the sequels.

    I got other examples, but you get my point, you have made ns the ideal (definition of nostalgia, to idealise something), and that means ns2 will have to be VERY good to be able to take its place. Like if I wanted to like ra3 as much as ra2, it would have had to be an actuall 9/10 or 10/10 (or to "normal" (I noticed when most vote 10/10, I vote 8/10) peoples scale, 12/10).
  • LoeyLoey Join Date: 2009-10-31 Member: 69187Members
    i liked the 1.04 ns maps. all the newer maps and map changes didnt have the same feel to me. the gameplay change probably had something to do with the change in feeling as well. i think its too early to decide how ns2 will feel until you play a few games which seems to be a long way off for now.

    and anyone who dropped out of school because they were too busy playing video games is an idiot and needs to sort their priorities out.
  • Skyforger2Skyforger2 Join Date: 2007-10-19 Member: 62681Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1770714:date=May 11 2010, 05:07 AM:name=xposed-)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xposed- @ May 11 2010, 05:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1770714"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->hardcore != stupid<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Not not me, tho is kipped quite a lot of the classes at that time :)
  • kingmobkingmob Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3650Members, Constellation
    A sequel should be different and similar at the same time.

    Think of all the GOOD movie sequels you have ever seen.
    The sequel usually uses the same players with a slightly different slant.

    Now think of all the BAD movie sequels you have seen.
    More often than not they are either TOO different (left behind what was good)
    or they are too similar to the original.

    Myself I am excited that NS2 is different.
    I like that the skulk is beefier he looks like more of a threat.

    my 2 cents
    have a nice day.
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    I wouldn't worry too much about the look and feel.

    The individual most responsible for the look and feel of NS1 is Cory, who's a full time Art Director on NS2. The concept art he's been producing is stunning, and to me has the same feel that NS1 did. I'd say that the major difference is that because he's working full time on the game, the art direction is more consistent than in NS1.
  • tekproxytekproxy Join Date: 2005-03-11 Member: 44813Members, Constellation
    This is a lot of soul searching over a video game.
  • HeymanHeyman Join Date: 2005-03-29 Member: 46895Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1770761:date=May 11 2010, 08:14 AM:name=tekproxy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tekproxy @ May 11 2010, 08:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1770761"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is a lot of soul searching over a video game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Perhaps. Though, I don't find it in me to blame them all too quickly.

    If they've been around since before me and fit my definition of Hardcore, they've poured countless hours into the game as though they were a WoW addict, except without the obligation. My NS hour log is something like 3000+ hours.
  • NeoSniperNeoSniper Join Date: 2005-06-02 Member: 52976Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1770675:date=May 10 2010, 06:48 PM:name=Skyforger2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Skyforger2 @ May 10 2010, 06:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1770675"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->...It may be more better game but it won't be ns.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Are you aware that your post is based almost purely on nostalgia and nothing to do with how good NS2 looks?

    Yes! NS2 will not be NS. That's an inescapable fact, get over it. NS2 is well on its way to being an awesome game.
  • Skyforger2Skyforger2 Join Date: 2007-10-19 Member: 62681Members
    <img src="http://blogs.villagevoice.com/forkintheroad/crying-baby-giant-eyes1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    <b>I don't want ns to get old and die .... ;(</b>
  • Dank McShwaggerDank McShwagger Join Date: 2009-06-10 Member: 67784Members
    nostalgia aside, i prefer the atmosphere that ns2 potrays over ns1. i found ns1 to be very clean and bright (except for the alien infested areas) where as ns2 is gritty and dark... ill take gritty and dark over clean and bright any day.
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