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Join Date: 2008-11-16 Member: 65475Members
Join Date: 2008-11-16 Member: 65475Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Post your issues / solution regarding NS2 running on WINE</div>Are some folks out there already trying to run the NS2 engine test on WINE? What about the tools? Have you had any success?
Edit : After some helpful posts and experimentation (thanks to everyone!), we have a good idea of what is possible to do at the moment with WINE and NS2.
Here is what is known to work:
<ul><li>Installation / running NS2 Engine Test (Using WINE 1.1.33/1.1.34 or CrossOver Games 8.1.4, with VideoMemorySize set in registry)</li><li>Installation of the NS2 Tools</li><li>Launch Pad</li><li>Builder</li><li>Viewer (WINE 1.1.33 / 1.1.34 only)</li></ul>
Here is what does NOT work :
<ul><li>Shadows are not drawn in Engine Test. </li><li>Game Engine (NS2) crashes at initialization (WINE 1.1.36+ or WINE 1.1.x without VideoMemorySize set in registry)</li><li>Game Engine (NS2) crashes upon entering game if graphic settings at high (happens on 8800GTS 640Mo)</li><li>Editor crashes instantly</li><li>Viewer display is black or missing lightning (CrossOver Games 8.1.4 or WINE 1.1.42)</li><li>Low performance : about 15-20 fps on Q6700 + 8800GTS 640Mo)</li></ul>
A quick how-to to get you started :
1) Install plain WINE 1.1.33 / 1.1.34 or <a href="http://www.playonlinux.com" target="_blank">PlayOnLinux</a> or buy <a href="http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/" target="_blank">CrossOver Games</a>.
2) Install Steam.
3) Install your NS2 pre-release bundle. <b>You must install it in the same wine-prefix as Steam, else NS2 will refuse to launch, warning about failed network services initialization</b>. With plain WINE, you don't have to do anything special, as everything is installed at the same place by default. PlayOnLinux, by default, creates a new wine-prefix for every new installation. The trick is to give the "new" prefix the same name as the previously created one. On CrossOver Games, you must choose the same "bottle" (wine-prefix).
4) For a reason or another, NS2 seems to fail to auto-detect your video card memory and will crash with texture memory overflow. The way to solve this is to tell it specifically in the registry. Open regedit : if you have installed wine, juste type "regedit" in a terminal or with Alt-F2; for PlayOnLinux, right-click the launcher and select "Registry Base"; if using CrossOver Games, you need to execute this command : ~/cxgames_installation_path/bin/wine --bottle "your_bottle_name" --cx-app regedit.exe. Example: ~/cxgames/bin/wine --bottle "Steam Games" --cx-app regedit.exe.
Now that you have opened Regedit, browse to HKEY_CURRENT_USER -> Software -> Wine. Right click on Wine, and select New key. Name this new key: Direct3D. Right click on Direct3D, and choose "New String value". Name this string value: VideoMemorySize, and set its value to the amount of your video card memory, <b>in megabytes</b> (256, 512, 640, 1024, etc.). You should now be ready to go!
5) Remember to start Steam first. Once it's connected, you can start Natural Selection 2. Two warnings though: <b>do not attempt fullscreen mode, as you won't be able to click on any buttons after and will have do a clean re-install to remove the setting. Also, set the video settings at medium, else the game might crash when you join / create a game.</b>
Game is playable, but fps are low at around 15-25 images per second. The game takes around 600 megabytes of ram during play.
Test System:
-Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx 64 bits
-Q6700 CPU, eVGA 8800GTS 640Mo, 8GB ram
-PlayOnLinux and CrossOver 8.1.4
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Edit : After some helpful posts and experimentation (thanks to everyone!), we have a good idea of what is possible to do at the moment with WINE and NS2.
Here is what is known to work:
<ul><li>Installation / running NS2 Engine Test (Using WINE 1.1.33/1.1.34 or CrossOver Games 8.1.4, with VideoMemorySize set in registry)</li><li>Installation of the NS2 Tools</li><li>Launch Pad</li><li>Builder</li><li>Viewer (WINE 1.1.33 / 1.1.34 only)</li></ul>
Here is what does NOT work :
<ul><li>Shadows are not drawn in Engine Test. </li><li>Game Engine (NS2) crashes at initialization (WINE 1.1.36+ or WINE 1.1.x without VideoMemorySize set in registry)</li><li>Game Engine (NS2) crashes upon entering game if graphic settings at high (happens on 8800GTS 640Mo)</li><li>Editor crashes instantly</li><li>Viewer display is black or missing lightning (CrossOver Games 8.1.4 or WINE 1.1.42)</li><li>Low performance : about 15-20 fps on Q6700 + 8800GTS 640Mo)</li></ul>
A quick how-to to get you started :
1) Install plain WINE 1.1.33 / 1.1.34 or <a href="http://www.playonlinux.com" target="_blank">PlayOnLinux</a> or buy <a href="http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/" target="_blank">CrossOver Games</a>.
2) Install Steam.
3) Install your NS2 pre-release bundle. <b>You must install it in the same wine-prefix as Steam, else NS2 will refuse to launch, warning about failed network services initialization</b>. With plain WINE, you don't have to do anything special, as everything is installed at the same place by default. PlayOnLinux, by default, creates a new wine-prefix for every new installation. The trick is to give the "new" prefix the same name as the previously created one. On CrossOver Games, you must choose the same "bottle" (wine-prefix).
4) For a reason or another, NS2 seems to fail to auto-detect your video card memory and will crash with texture memory overflow. The way to solve this is to tell it specifically in the registry. Open regedit : if you have installed wine, juste type "regedit" in a terminal or with Alt-F2; for PlayOnLinux, right-click the launcher and select "Registry Base"; if using CrossOver Games, you need to execute this command : ~/cxgames_installation_path/bin/wine --bottle "your_bottle_name" --cx-app regedit.exe. Example: ~/cxgames/bin/wine --bottle "Steam Games" --cx-app regedit.exe.
Now that you have opened Regedit, browse to HKEY_CURRENT_USER -> Software -> Wine. Right click on Wine, and select New key. Name this new key: Direct3D. Right click on Direct3D, and choose "New String value". Name this string value: VideoMemorySize, and set its value to the amount of your video card memory, <b>in megabytes</b> (256, 512, 640, 1024, etc.). You should now be ready to go!
5) Remember to start Steam first. Once it's connected, you can start Natural Selection 2. Two warnings though: <b>do not attempt fullscreen mode, as you won't be able to click on any buttons after and will have do a clean re-install to remove the setting. Also, set the video settings at medium, else the game might crash when you join / create a game.</b>
Game is playable, but fps are low at around 15-25 images per second. The game takes around 600 megabytes of ram during play.
Test System:
-Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx 64 bits
-Q6700 CPU, eVGA 8800GTS 640Mo, 8GB ram
-PlayOnLinux and CrossOver 8.1.4
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Comments
I had the steam client started on windows 7, but it complained about that anyways, and that was because I had to run steam in administrator mode.
So it probably applies to linux too since you emulate.
So either if you forgot to start steam, or it is the admin problem part with steam.
Only things I can come up with :P
So either if you forgot to start steam, or it is the admin problem part with steam.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have Steam started --it's present in the tray. As for the admin rights, I'm not sure about what you mean? Are you saying that you had to use a user account with administrator privileges in Windows?
The <a href="http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ" target="_blank">WINE FAQ</a> says : "As far as Windows programs are concerned, you are running with administrator privileges. If an application complains about a lack of administrator privileges, file a bug; running Wine as root probably won't help."
Some other <a href="http://wiki.jswindle.com/index.php/General_Wine_Troubleshooting" target="_blank">link</a> suggests to attempt running the program in Win98 mode, where admin rights did not exist yet. This is a no go, as Steam will remind you to inactivate compatibility mode, then close.
But does it say anything in wine console (standard output) ?
The <a href="http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ" target="_blank">WINE FAQ</a> says : "As far as Windows programs are concerned, you are running with administrator privileges. If an application complains about a lack of administrator privileges, file a bug; running Wine as root probably won't help."
Some other <a href="http://wiki.jswindle.com/index.php/General_Wine_Troubleshooting" target="_blank">link</a> suggests to attempt running the program in Win98 mode, where admin rights did not exist yet. This is a no go, as Steam will remind you to inactivate compatibility mode, then close.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I see, well I have no idea then :(
You should give it a try sometime. It's getting pretty good for a lot of stuff.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->But does it say anything in wine console (standard output) ?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
WINE is not printing any problem in the terminal to the point where NS2 warns that it cannot find Steam. See : <img src="http://i40.tinypic.com/2hrcxg0.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Oh WINE! I thought this was the whine thread D:
You are entitled to your opinion, but I think you are misjudging the situation. In the current case, the Unknown World developers have expressed their will to _someday_ release a Linux build of their game. To support them and because I love NS, I've bought their game. Using WINE in the meantime A) by curiosity and B) to see the status of the development. IMHO, the more users come here and express their issues running the game in WINE, the more the alternative OS crowd get noticed by the developers.
<img src="http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/487/winens2fail.png" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Also, I've experienced the same problems as the OP
That b*s*. Sorry to say that!
Fixed that one for you :)
Anyway, I'm running the latest version of Wine (visit the wine site for details on adding their repo to get the latest version, 'apt-get update' or similar won't get the newest version), and was able to get further than the 'Steam' message by being logged into Steam before trying to run NS2. After doing this, the program would just exit without giving a message. I tried Wine in verbose mode, which gave a load of output which I had no idea what the relevant parts of it were. I then tried the CrossoverGames demo version. That did better, getting to the point of drawing the NS2 window - however, it crashed at that point (leaving a window showing only blackness). I am running an older ATI card and am not using the ATI binary driver, so that could be the reason. Hopefuly someone will get further with this, if anyone can get it working on the Crossover Games demo, I think I'll but the full Crossover Games, they have a 25% off offer at the moment.
When I launch the editor, I get a "Debug Report" window which suggests the sound system couldn't initialize an output device (why does the editor need sound? is that just a side effect of the editor containing the full game engine?).
When I launch the game with Steam running, a window flashes briefly and disappears too fast to look at, but it seemed vaguely empty-gray-ish. The console outputs a few "fixme:d3d:" messages from wine, but no obvious fatal errors.
So, I imagine the UWE folks are focusing on making it work on Windows for the moment, but if you're ever interested in pursuing Linux compatibility, I'm sure lots of folks out here (myself included) would be more than happy to help you test/debug/research/report/whatever.
So for some odd reason it won't find Steam if I launch it from a terminal, but it will if I launch it from menu. I don't get it yet. This annoyed me, as I couldn't see the debug information regarding what was going wrong. Next I gave it a try with my CrossOver Pro / Games suite.
With CrossOver, a frame is drawn (not full screen, about 1280 x 900 instead of my native 1280x1024), but it stays black and the debug report window pops up. Music is played though! Nice track! The crash log produced by NS2 contains lines such as these :
IDirect3DDevice9::CreateTexture(2048, 2048, 0, D3DFMT_A8R8G8B8) failed (Out of video memory)
Direct3DDevice::Texture initialize failed- A8R8G8B8, xSize=2048, ySize=2048)
This using a 8800GTS 640Mo with latest drivers.
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Linux Pandore 2.6.33-gentoo-r1 #4 SMP Thu Apr 15 22:05:16 x86_64 Intel® Core2 CPU 6420 @ 2.13GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
OC 2.83
Nvidia 9800 gx2 drivers legacy 195.36.15
Edit!: work with wine 1.1.33 like the sdk , don't work with all cedega/transgaming engine no test with crossover sorry .Need some stuff from winetrick physx vcrun200X maybe need directX9 or some native dll . Don' t work fine in full screen ( cose f.. .king onverlay/ black screen and mouse bug , only full screen )
Sorry for my freaky english :p
i get this debug output when running with wine 1.1.41:
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32f284,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:d3d:WineD3D_ChoosePixelFormat Add OpenGL context recreation support to SetDepthStencilSurface
fixme:d3d:debug_d3dformat Unrecognized 1280070990 (as fourcc: NULL) WINED3DFORMAT!
fixme:d3d:getFormatDescEntry Can't find format unrecognized(1280070990) in the format lookup table
fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 stub
fixme:d3d:WineD3D_ChoosePixelFormat Add OpenGL context recreation support to SetDepthStencilSurface
Any clues? no error messages nothing apart from that
PS of course like window you need launch steam before with the same wineprefixe
anyway.. i want a native version,.. please?
Yes, I'm using the 195.36.15 binary drivers.
I'm not sure if i'm disappointed or relieved now though.
<a href="http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capture-naturalselection2.php" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/capture-naturalselection2.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a> <a href="http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capture-naturalselection2-a.php" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/capture-naturalselection2-a.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
<a href="http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capture-naturalselection2-2.php" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/capture-naturalselection2-2.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a> <a href="http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capture-naturalselection2-5.php" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/capture-naturalselection2-5.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
Bug so far:
- Really low frame rate: 5-15 fps (high quality)
- Some targets are missing legs and aiming near but not on it killed them.
- Repeating output while in main screen: <a href="http://pastebin.com/irhuAJiv" target="_blank">http://pastebin.com/irhuAJiv</a>
- Bugged keystroke in console
- Editor is still not starting (crash and bug report appears)
- No shadow (no fans projection shadows, neither on ground neither on player)
Quick crapy howto
wine-1.1.33 , winetricks ( for directX9 physx and vc2005 )
note : vc2008 = msvcr90.dll / vc2005 = msvcr80.dll
1 install wine , check alsa , now with nano or some thing like
nano DirectX.reg and put thas
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectX]
"InstalledVersion"="hex:00,00,00,09,00,00,00,00"
"Version"="4.09.00.0904"
now regedit DirectX.reg after thas open regedit and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Wine/ and add new key Direct3D
now add String Value for Direct3D
OffscreenRenderingMode --> fbo
UseGLSL --> enabled
VideoMemorySize -->XXX (256 /512 /1024 ect)
now you can install directx9 , physx and vc2005 , time for install steam and natural selection 2 engine test . Launch steam and launch engine test , enjoy
note : maybe physx make some error or stuck i not a real problem.
PS if you need see my wine flag <a href="http://pastie.org/924700" target="_blank">http://pastie.org/924700</a>
Edit owned by jamesbch :p