Lock The Game Files?
uranium_235
Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
<div class="IPBDescription">Stop server admins from messing it up</div> I've noticed that server admins get this perverse joy with f--king the game up.
Laser Sights - Aliens know exactly how many marines are coming, where they're going, and if they're paying attention. Can even tell you what gun they're using, if you're smart (Early in game + no laser = Shotgun, welder, or knife, etc)
Healing Armory - While I do think this should be a seperate building in the game, it seems stupid that it's been put in voogru's server... I've had people join and say "Why doesn't this armory heal me?". Nothing but messing with the game balance and screwing it up for other people.
Some server had night vision goggles upgrades, etc. etc.
Is it possible to lock the game files and stop this 3rd party editing? It's annoying as hell, the server admins don't seem to give a thought to balance or what the game is like (Especially the laser sights).
Laser Sights - Aliens know exactly how many marines are coming, where they're going, and if they're paying attention. Can even tell you what gun they're using, if you're smart (Early in game + no laser = Shotgun, welder, or knife, etc)
Healing Armory - While I do think this should be a seperate building in the game, it seems stupid that it's been put in voogru's server... I've had people join and say "Why doesn't this armory heal me?". Nothing but messing with the game balance and screwing it up for other people.
Some server had night vision goggles upgrades, etc. etc.
Is it possible to lock the game files and stop this 3rd party editing? It's annoying as hell, the server admins don't seem to give a thought to balance or what the game is like (Especially the laser sights).
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And i think that the health dispensers are a wonderful thing for captains because they reduce the amout of health packs you have to waste time dropping. The health dispenser should be added to the game.
These little things add some variety to the game, and when youre stuck playing a map over and over for 3 hours, variety is good. Besides, those things are most likely added with admin mod, in which case its out of the hands of the DEV team anyway. Sort of like glowing and the dice game.
Although I personally find most custom modifications by admins extremely annoying, pointless and dissappointing, i think it's something that should be left in.
It's much like the theory of Natural Selection - that which doensn't work will die out, but some unlikely mutations will be more effective.
No change = stagnation. So it's good to let people mess with stuff. Just think if ID had not let people mess with quake - we wouldn't have team fortress, or halflife. If Valve hadn't let people mess with halflife, we wouldn't have NS or CS or any of the other countless HL mods.
So I vote, let served admins do what they want. It is, after all, their server. If it bugs you, tell them and play somewhere else. (Not very fun when it happens to you, true)
'least it's not an admin who messes with gravity and air-acceleration mid-serious-game. <sigh>
At the very least, it would be nice if there was a way to tell if a server was modified in any way before joining it (most altered servers don't even mention the add-ons in their login message). When I open up All-Seeing Eye and look for a server to play on, I am looking for a game of NS, not some funky disco lazer light bonanza. I wish I could filter them out, or if someone had a list of all modified servers so I could filter all of them out.
As for nightvision and such, I'm glad this mod is so easily adaptable.. I just hope there are a few people who prefer it in its unadultered state... WHICH SHOULD HAVE MOTION TRACKING WORKING.. ahem. Played 6 straight games (on different servers) and not once did motion tracking come up right.. I could have won 2 of those games (was the comm) if it had.. the marines were getting raped from behind and the aliens were always in motion <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
Although I personally find most custom modifications by admins extremely annoying, pointless and dissappointing, i think it's something that should be left in.
It's much like the theory of Natural Selection - that which doensn't work will die out, but some unlikely mutations will be more effective.
No change = stagnation. So it's good to let people mess with stuff. Just think if ID had not let people mess with quake - we wouldn't have team fortress, or halflife. If Valve hadn't let people mess with halflife, we wouldn't have NS or CS or any of the other countless HL mods.
So I vote, let served admins do what they want. It is, after all, their server. If it bugs you, tell them and play somewhere else. (Not very fun when it happens to you, true)
'least it's not an admin who messes with gravity and air-acceleration mid-serious-game. <sigh><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Um you don't know what you talkin about. Mods were made from Hl and quake. Manipulating a mod is a different thing than manipulating a game. Making a mod from a mod is't really what people do. Mods are made from games not other mods. "so lets let people mess with stuff" not If I was one of the creators of Ns.
Ns is already a mod, why the F would someone mod an already made mod. This whole topic is really stupid. Plus it is true that people who play on crazy admin servers first don't really know the true NS game. A newbie for example joins his first NS server and finds this stuff like healing armories and lasers and crap. Now he joins an official unaltered NS server and says "this is crap" "this is boooring"
Don't say that admin mods won't affect the community for they do indeed. Sorry if you think otherwise.
you said verify instead of valid therefore your post isn't really valid at this point
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Anyway...
anyway he just because he was comparing messing with a mod to actually writing an entire mod does not make his point wrong.
Hey you know what would be cool, laser sighting that only the marines can see, that way you know where your team m8s are aiming and what they are covering. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Shhh, that would be the sensible thing to do.
Excessive reserved slots is the real killer...any server with 4 reserved slots is run by an admin who needs a kick to the head. Especially if that leaves the server with an ODD number of non-reserved slots.
Die, 11-player servers with 4 reserved slots. Just die.
however, Then _EVERY_ plugin (Including AdminMOD, HLGuard, MetaMod, EVERYTHING)
Wont work at all.
So you have 2 choices:
1. Punish all server admins, dont allow modding the game at all, dont allow metamod, adminmod, etc.
2. Dont play there.
I think (2) is a much easier choice. For everyone.
The game name of a normal NS server is "Natural Selection" (The game name is what you see, like "Half-Life" "Counter-Strike" "Team Fortress" etc.)
Mine however, says "Natural Selection 1.03"
So if you use gamespy, you can point it out pretty easily. As if the "voogru.com" in the hostname wasnt enough.
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