More entertaining deaths,

Raneman · January 2010

You have death animations and that's it? I bet it even clips through walls.

Solution:
Gibs, Ragdolls, and blended animation, and a blood smear or two. It's what makes being owned in other games so much more awesome.

Go play some AVP to get some ideas.

Raza. · January 2010

They are implementing a mixture of ragdoll and predefined death animations.

Draco_2k · January 2010

Good job being a jerk there.

As Razagal said, NS2 will use a blend of ragdoll physics and classic animation.

SentrySteve · January 2010

are the players are represented by sprites in this game?

solution:

get a 3d modeling program and make 3d models for the players

go play HALO to get some ideas

DigitalPictures · January 2010

While I think a horror atmosphere would go hand in hand with NS2, (the creatures look very deadly and look like they would rip people apart in many gory ways) I think the developers stated that they are going the PG-13ish route so that they can reach a much wider audience. More people buying and being able to play equals more money for them. It also gives players more people to play with, which is what NS1 was all about.

I think being gassed by a lerk should change the color of a player's skin/veins to show an effect of being exposed to an unknown toxin. It'd be cool to have stuff like that, but I'm actually quite happy with what I've seen so far from everything that has been released. I can't imagine anyone who loved NS1 absolutely hating the artwork done in the sequel. Will the aliens/players have bullet wound effects?

Renegade. · January 2010

That's not the reason (NS was never targetted at the younger crowd anyways), it's just that gore doesn't fit within the NS environment - this game is about concise tactical combat with an emphasis on gameplay not horror. Somehow an over-the-top death animation of a marine's entrails seeping onto the floor after a skulk attack would just draw away from the teamwork gameplay focus.

DigitalPictures · January 2010

I could've sworn I've heard throughout the years in the irc channel from some people that were close to the development, that everything was being kept around a Teen Rating for a more broad audience. I remember someone saying that this in turn would make them more attractive to getting investors interested in funding their project(NS2).

I agree that when I think of NS, I think of all the teamwork surrounding the game and not horror. I don't think though that any death animations that would be more horrific would have any affect on the gameplay itself, it would just change the atmosphere. That said, I'm not requesting over the top gory deaths. I could care less. Its up for them to decide how they want the tone to be.

Phin · January 2010

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Razagal @ Jan 10 2010, 01:41 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1746588"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>They are implementing a mixture of ragdoll and predefined death animations.</div>

Has there been any news on if these predefined deaths will be generic like they are in NS, or a reaction to what killed you?

Like for example, lerk gas causing you to fall to the ground while coughing and spluttering, or being gored by an onos causing you to double-up and be lifted into the air before the ragdoll kicks in?

Duresthar · January 2010

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e @ Jan 10 2010, 07:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1746709"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>That's not the reason (NS was never targetted at the younger crowd anyways), it's just that gore doesn't fit within the NS environment - this game is about concise tactical combat with an emphasis on gameplay not horror. Somehow an over-the-top death animation of a marine's entrails seeping onto the floor after a skulk attack would just draw away from the teamwork gameplay focus.</div>

That seems like a fairly poor excuse. Taking away from teamwork gameplay focus? By this kind of logic we could say that they shouldn't make the environments or the graphics TOO impressive, or it might take away from teamwork. It was probably just a case that they didn't really find it fitting for the art style.

Renegade. · January 2010

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duresthar @ Jan 11 2010, 08:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1746780"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>That seems like a fairly poor excuse. Taking away from teamwork gameplay focus? By this kind of logic we could say that they shouldn't make the environments or the graphics TOO impressive, or it might take away from teamwork. It was probably just a case that they didn't really find it fitting for the art style.</div>
precisely why you're not going to see bloom or overly-decorative props; what do you think the art style is centered around? protip: art [*]follows[/*] gameplay design.

PSA · January 2010

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R_e_n_e_g_a_d_e @ Jan 10 2010, 08:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1746709"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>That's not the reason (NS was never targetted at the younger crowd anyways), it's just that gore doesn't fit within the NS environment - this game is about concise tactical combat with an emphasis on gameplay not horror. Somehow an over-the-top death animation of a marine's entrails seeping onto the floor after a skulk attack would just draw away from the teamwork gameplay focus.</div>

Going to have to agree here. The current game shines (on a very old engine?) due to the depth and structured, solid, fast paced "concise tactical combat." Compare the feel and game play of NS to something like DOOM3 or, I don't know, DeadSpace, whatever. The graphics, gore, pace, effects, all stress the horror feel, the atmosphere of being stuck, scared, bloody, and very vulnerable. I think its easy to make the mistake of lumping NS into this catagory just because its got "aliens in space" and not a "squad vs terrorist" tactical game. But the game IS tactical. Its ABOUT gameplay. Its NOT (hopefully not becoming either) "gimicky." Its not about "woah dude look how I totally blew that skulks body in half and its guts are everywhereeeeeeeee! Woaaaaaah! / keanu." From a personal standpoint, I would find this distracting from the gameplay and teamwork.

Don't get me wrong, I welcome an improvement from the current game (the engine is old as the wheel for god's sake), but I think those improvements will come naturally with the aformentioned ragdoll effects, physics, and just plain ol new engine.

Jirodyne · January 2010

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PSA @ Jan 12 2010, 05:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1747015"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>Its not about "woah dude look how I totally blew that skulks body in half and its guts are everywhereeeeeeeee! Woaaaaaah! / keanu." From a personal standpoint, I would find this distracting from the gameplay and teamwork.</div>

..... But thats just you. To me, the very fact that I can do and see that would excite me and make me want to shoot more skulks! "Come here you little ######s! your all going to get shot so I can have my fun!" And taking away from the gameplay and teamwork? Are you Crazy? The only teamwork in NS is staying with the group and shooting the aliens when they pop out. That's it. The only other teamwork, is building the stuff at the base, which after the first 10 minutes, that becomes useless and the games all about rushing and killing, solo or with groups, especially solo on the aliens side, since only the gorges would be building base stuff.

PSA · January 2010

good then in that case, lets give all enemies big ol gibs when they die, throw on a chainsaw-gun with special death animation, then next comes special taunts and taunt animation for marines / each alien class! Because that is totally awesome right! Then I want hats.

More entertaining deaths,

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