V1.03 Waisted The Game
DSSG_Nitro
Join Date: 2002-12-01 Member: 10344Members
Join Date: 2002-12-01 Member: 10344Members
V1.03 sux,
Its impossible for Aliens to win on several maps....
It takes an hour to respwan (we even saw one marine guy taking our hive out with a lmg while we were all waiting to respawn, AND NO ONE HAD TIME TO RESPAWN !).
We cant share the res as Aliens... WHY NOT !? Marines give all the res to the commander why couldnt we share ours with the gorge?
And the Aliens get killed with 2 bullets! WTH IS THAT!?
Yesterday to prove my point Iv played as a marine with my firends, and we won the game 10 times in 10 tries winning in an average of 5 to 10 mins per game. Its soooo easy to rush aliens hive now that its not even FUNNY!
Not its boring now, no challenge.... You guys changed the game probably because Marines n00bs kept whining about how they sucked as marines.. But those guys are newbies !!!!
on v1.02 I was winning as a marine, as well then when I was an alien, but now Aliens just always lose... Its just unfair, pathetic and **obscenity**
Im sure that all advanced players that knows how to play Alie4ns knows what Im talkin about.
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Its impossible for Aliens to win on several maps....
It takes an hour to respwan (we even saw one marine guy taking our hive out with a lmg while we were all waiting to respawn, AND NO ONE HAD TIME TO RESPAWN !).
We cant share the res as Aliens... WHY NOT !? Marines give all the res to the commander why couldnt we share ours with the gorge?
And the Aliens get killed with 2 bullets! WTH IS THAT!?
Yesterday to prove my point Iv played as a marine with my firends, and we won the game 10 times in 10 tries winning in an average of 5 to 10 mins per game. Its soooo easy to rush aliens hive now that its not even FUNNY!
Not its boring now, no challenge.... You guys changed the game probably because Marines n00bs kept whining about how they sucked as marines.. But those guys are newbies !!!!
on v1.02 I was winning as a marine, as well then when I was an alien, but now Aliens just always lose... Its just unfair, pathetic and **obscenity**
Im sure that all advanced players that knows how to play Alie4ns knows what Im talkin about.
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The only thing that slightly affected the marine rush was the carapace bug fix. However, skulks are dead anyway before this amounts to much effect.
Dang.
Urm I'm usually a marine player and that bug really was beginning to annoy me!
I'd shoot loads at a fade and he wound'nt die!
Aight u still win as an alien?
I dont know on what server ur playin but I will make u change ur mind.
Yes once u got fade the game is balanced.... But u need to build that 2nd hive. And I still think that usually all newbies goes to marines, so most of the time they let u build that 2nd hive because they dont even know where it is.
Im talkin about 2 decent teams fighting. No newbies, and the Aliens get raped. You just crouch as a marine stay far from lil hided spot where a skulk can pop up and u can kill 5 skulks easily. Those 5 skulks taking 10 minutes to respawn u can proceed to the hive and kill the rest.
As for fades, back in 1.02 and even b4 they never scared me as a com. Most newbies will hide when they see one but if u run after him u can kill it pretty easily. Tell me how many times u saw a marine team coming back from 3 aliens hives having Onos?
v1.03 made it unfair, and if u think u can still win it as aliens, tell me what server ur playin on, so I can have a lil challenge as a marine, because this is gettin boring...
wtf are you talking about? killing the marines is easy as long as you dont rush from the very front. drop from the roof, use vents, use parasite from far away, and just never rush on them from where they are pointing that gun and skulks will own. and when the aliens get shitloads of chambers , a hive and thus fades with umbra whoring lerks they will be unstoppable.
the aliens need co-operation as much as the marines do. wont work if everyone goes gorge, the skulks all camp at their hives and stuff. the skulks must continue on harassing them while gorges build those walls of chambers and hives.
And I totally agree with Zuron... With a little teamwork aliens can own.. yet without they can suck...
Yesterday I played in 1 game where marines had 2 hives heavily defended and were on their way to clean up our only hive with HA and HMG, Nades etc and us aliens managed to turn the entire game around and win. With a little teamwork and persistence aliens can win... even with 1.03 (which was what the server we played on ran aswell)
Im a dreamin!?
tell me whats the server, Ill join in and see what those newbies marines are!!!
"Use vents? jump from roof?' riiiight!
listen, as a marine team u secure 2 hives and then u get the last one. Now we dont even need to do that anymore we just rush the first hive... And even if ur on ur lil roof or vents, u will come out, give a lil bite and then get killed with 2 bullets....
Just give me those ip's server adress....
I cant believe that u guys play aliens and dont agree that on v1.03 aliens are waaaaay tooo weak.
You guys have to play more or sumthin...
I think every game I played yesterday was a victory for aliens. hm.
You guys have to play more or sumthin... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->I play too much as it is.
Clans have complained that the marine rush is the most dominant strategy in matches already. I know it's a powerful strategy, but I just don't see it happen as often as you seem to think it happens.
I go to almost random servers. (well filtered, mind you) I have my favorites, but they are usually full.
Just seeing all ur replies makes me realise that I may be a lil too far in my NS experience compared to you....And that people like u created that **obscenity**
So Im gonna wait, let you join a real server where there is no n00bs in marines and get more games in. Let u realise by urselfs with time how unbalance it is.
So Ill comeback next month.... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
You can't chagre Marines head on, and you can't let them put you in a position where you HAVE to in order to kill them. Use your ability to run up walls, set up ambushes, make them think twice before nearing your hive. Its your home, defend it like one!
BTW, you have horrible spelling/grammar. Are you 12 or 13? Sorry, I can't help but act under my age sometimes. People like you provoke me. I'm usually a nice guy.
maybe im playin on a 1.02 server.. but it seems like everysingle time ive played lately... ALIENS have won... marines rarely win....
all aliens need are some good and smart gorges... and smart fighters and u can win
plus.. with the boost on the price of the siege turet i think aliens should be winning
cuz
A) a wall of lame is so hard to beat u almsot NEED a siege turret even more than one.. especially if gorges are behing
B) by the time u get seige... aliens will have 2 hives and many resource spots up..
C) YOU NEED A GOOD COMMANDER AND A GOOD FIELD LEADER TO WIN...
either the aliens u played were blind.. or the patch relaly did nerf aliens
If anything the fades are extremely strong.
Played for about 3 hours.. Marines lost everygame, practically.
Unless the marines had Ha, and powerful weapons, the fades would destroy the base EASILY.
Although we kept losing, we did ALWAYS hold up a big fight until the end.
They would be in our base, killing us, but we would keep respawning (and thanks to distress beacon <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> ) it prolonged our survival. Marines never got out of our base once they had fades attacking our base, but we did manage to kill some of them.. they're just impossible to stop if there are 3 or 4 of them <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> with HA and HMG, it's hard for a group of marines to kill a group of fades if they have the right upgrades...
man.. it was torture.
I thing its all fireworks.
Damn we were 20 peoples agreeing that this new version had no sense. That it was pathetic how the Aliens go sooo weak.
I repeat. I takes 10 mins to respawn, 2 bullets to die, and u cant share money.
Now if marines cant beat that its because they are or complete n00bs, or because their just not bright enough to do the math.
I guess u were all just lucky to end up in servers where u had those type of opponents....
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Man go play v1.03 and you will see the difference....
Gross exaggeration. Go get the real stats please before using that stuff to back up your thoughts. It lowers the quality of your argument.
What I mean is ...
Since v1.03 the game is CLEARLY unfair, unless u dont know what ur talking about and here is why....
IT TAKES TOO LONG FOR THE ALIENS TO RESPAWN COMPARED TO THE MARINES!
ITS EASIER TO GET RES FASTER AND TO PROTECT THEM AS MARINE THEN AS ALIEN
AND... ALIENS (skulk and gorges) ARE WAYYY TO WEAK DYING TOO EASILY
All that since the new patch...
hmm I thought Iv already said all those things....
Oh well...
<b>I</b> guess you should look for a couple of good servers with decent players and stay there if you want good matches. I personally have 3 favourite servers because I am sick of those noob marines/aliens whining for HA/3rd hive, and found out the the marines/alien wins/losses are nearly equal. Mind you, it all depends on the players. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Just my 0,02 ?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->AND... ALIENS (skulk and gorges) ARE WAYYY TO WEAK DYING TOO EASILY <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
To counter this, ambush them! You are a SKULK! Heck you are SUPPOSED to die easily. You AIN?T a one man army that can crush a whole base while listening to some funky techno. There?s a REASON you have that 2 bites = dead weapon, and OMFG you can CLIMB ON WALLS! Hang over doorways and drop on their heads, hide in dark corners and get them from behind. You ain?t supposed to be a gun toting marine when playing aliens, you are supposed to be A SMART, CLEVER LITTLE CREATURE THAT USES TACTICS INSTEAD OF BRUTE FORCE. You have the ELEMENT OF SURPRISE, so make good use of it.
In one word: PLAY YOUR ROLE! If you are supposed to play tactically as an alien, don?t rush them.
eh
2 bullets to die only if you're skulk.. maybe a bit more for gorge
the only thing i can see against the aliens is that when they spawn, they are skulks.. which means they have to wait even more time to get stronger.. and if a marine is nearby.. well it's just death, if the marine has good weapons
of course though, a fade can attack a marine when they spawn.. and the same thing practically happends, guranteed death that late in the game.
I agree at the second-hive, the aliens shouldn't be so strong just a group of fades can knockout pretty much anything. and after they do, the gorges will probably build a defense.
About the rushes, MORE TIMES than not, i have seen aliens win when they have rushed. 30 seconds, to 2 minutes into the game, and it's already over.
I have *NEVER*seen the marines rush into the enemy hive. it's usually to secure another resource node, and then probably to the first hive.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->ITS EASIER TO GET RES FASTER AND TO PROTECT THEM AS MARINE THEN AS ALIEN<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->Wrong. Aliens can spread out while marines stick together.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->unless u dont know what ur talking about <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's a horrible thing to say because anybody who contends your argument would automatically be wrong. Which can't possibly be the case.
I cant believe that u guys play aliens and dont agree that on v1.03 aliens are waaaaay tooo weak.
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J00 give us the IP of the "real" server, and let us witness how those trained skilled experienced veteran elite expert master blah blah marines look like.
Indeed I would like to see what type of place is breeding that particular kind of peopleS who always speaking with the word "n00bs". Pathetic peopleS who are so fanatic to seek some social positional objects around here?
You don't win by being bigger and
equipped with bigger guns. Especially
not the marines. You win by building
a good infrastructure and by letting
the buildings work for you!
Now as for the marine rush... if you,
as an alien, know its coming take another
route to their, by now, unprotected base
and eat it. Retake initiative. Still the aliens
must have at least one player who hides
and goes gorg.
I think 1.3 made aliens more powerful
and the balance much better. The only
problem is children playing and then
dropping out when they start to loose.
That unbalances the whole **obscenity**. Dont know
if they should use forced teambalance...
as an alien, know its coming take another
route to their, by now, unprotected base
and eat it. Retake initiative. Still the aliens
must have at least one player who hides
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You have to protect the hive or you lose. One skulk running to the marine base not be a bad idea, though. But if that hive drops, you lose.