Competitive Commanding Demos

Router_Box · July 2005

1.RouterBox

Here are some commander demo's from season 6 of CAL. The team is Slot1.

Hopefully this will help people who are getting into commanding. The real skill of a commander is displayed on ventrillo and not in the game. Knowing what the commander is thinking and more importantly how he is communicating is way more important than his meds or his tech path. Sadly this doesn't come through on demos, but hopefully people find them usefull anyway. Feel free to pm me in IRC if you are a new comm and want some tips, you can find me on irc.us.gamesurge.net in #findnsscrim.

Enjoy!

PS: Use "viewdemo filename" instead of "playdemo filename" It will work better and you get the control bar.

stallioN · July 2005

This is much better than jumping into the chair and clicking V repeatedly on every building...

Dreya · July 2005

Ooh, rocking demos Routerbox. I feel all inspired and stuff. Thank you, very, very much!

PlaZmaZ · July 2005

Good demos.

Shadow · July 2005

If someone can host it for me, i got 3 demo's of buggeh ( lessthanthree ) in ensl, 2 off evilness (knife ) and last (and least) 2 from b1 (knife again)

WhiteZero · June 2009

Awww... the download link is broken now..
Anyone still have this demo file? I'd like to watch it.

aeroripper · June 2009

I still think RouterBox was the best comm I've ever played with from what I remember. I never played competitively though so I'm sure there is others.

If anybody's interested, I made some HD commanding videos (with comm voice included) on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG7WJl3jt5w (ns_eclipse)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIPdBn5hK9Y...feature=related (ns_lost)

Not the best games but we did win. Hoping to eventually get a really good game recorded.

WhiteZero · June 2009

Great videos Aero!
I still wonder why the com drops an ammo/health pack at each hive while looking for the alien starting hive. Whats with that?

aeroripper · June 2009

That's me comming... I still haven't figured out how to do it with the waypoint yet... I should really figure out how to do it I get made fun of every game for ammo packs lol.

pSyk0mAn · June 2009

QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Jun 11 2009, 10:13 AM) »

Great videos Aero!
I still wonder why the com drops an ammo/health pack at each hive while looking for the alien starting hive. Whats with that?

If there is a hive, the ammo pack doesn't drop straight on the floor but onto the hive and slow sinks through it and then you know that's the starting hive even though you can't see it.

Similar with the waypoints. If you place a waypoint on the spot a hive is supposed to be, the waypoint is placed onto the hive in case there is one. So you can detect the hive by checking wether the waypoint is displayed on the floor or in the air closer to you.

I rarely play comm, but that's how it works afaik.
The waypoint method seems to be more difficult at a few certain start hives as I've read/heard.

WhiteZero · June 2009

Oh, I figured everyone just did it based on sound. If you hear the hive's RT gurgling, thats where the first hive is.

But like like the waypoint/ammodrop method too.

ZiGGY · June 2009

to do it with a waypoint you select a marine first

RTs are easily done by sound, but I think they dampened the hive node so you can't hear it or something, waypointing is easier in either case

sherpa · June 2009

QUOTE (ZiGGY @ Jun 15 2009, 11:42 AM) »

RTs are easily done by sound, but I think they dampened the hive node so you can't hear it or something, waypointing is easier in either case

Nodes are silent for the first 60s or so- including the hive node for the first 60s of a game.

ZiGGY · June 2009

you're hard pressed to get a node up in the first 30 seconds anyway

and I don't think the egg or gorge are silent :x I've never really done any comming out of public though so I don't know nor care sorry for providing technically incorrect information

Zamma · June 2009

Yea sherpa is right, nodes are quiet for the first 60 seconds of the game.

Instead to find the hive using waypoints is the best option (selecting a marine/marines and then waypointing where the hives are - it makes the waypoint appear above the hive location) and then you can use ammopack/medpack dropping for seconds.

To find the early nodes it's best to just listen for eggs or gorges building. You can waypoint them though!

My opinion on comms (ones I have played with) however:

sherpa has a good medspam and a lethal early game
Mike/aZa had the best awareness
JustMe had the best timing (in terms of listening for nodes / communicating and dropping structures)
Peach with a just general great gamesense

So everyone has strengths and weaknesses.

sherpa · June 2009

b1 was the best commander anywhere in NS.

His best asset- one I'm jealous of- is having a voice that isn't loud but makes itself heard above other sounds. You hear him, and you have to obey him.

ZiGGY · June 2009

pederasty or bobbi fanboi? you decide :O

toAzron · June 2009

I can set anyone up with demo hosting, just shoot me a PM

Router_Box · October 2009

I've collected a couple of demos. They are hosted here:
www.routerbox.org/ns/demos.zip

Good luck getting them to work, I haven't touched them in years.

And thank you for the compliments Aeroripper

slayer20 · October 2009

None of those demos work. It says that the .dll isn't right. They may be too old.

sherpa · October 2009

I think Fana figured out a way to get backwards compatability with demos.

Have a peak at www.ninelegends.com the article is likely there. Failing that try www.ensl.org. The article was on a forum post but the system was wiped clean recently.

slayer20 · October 2009

Found the page here: http://www.ninelegends.com/features/fixing-old-ns-demos/

Competitive Commanding Demos

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