double damage from behind

schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
in Ideas and Suggestions
<div class="IPBDescription">skulks being more skulky</div>well I just thought that maybe it would make gameplay more interesting and not so straight forward for skulks by encouraging them to sneak around and attack from behind

- this means that they would need to work in packs and just generally screw with the marine players brains to try to get them to face the wrong way

what do you guys think? (or does the marine ability to hit the skulks with the lmg already encourage this well enough?)
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  • MuYeahMuYeah Join Date: 2006-12-26 Member: 59261Members
    There's already a huge advantage to attacking from behind and if you don't do it at every possible opportunity then you're doing it wrong.
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  • aNytiMeaNytiMe Join Date: 2008-03-31 Member: 64007Members, Constellation
    Higher ping makes this a very frustrating feature ala TF2 facestabs.
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  • homicidehomicide Join Date: 2003-11-10 Member: 22451Members
    Only <!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->G<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->ayliens attack from behind.
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  • glimmermanglimmerman Join Date: 2004-04-29 Member: 28300Members, Constellation
    this could actually be a neat feature for the normal marines seeing as they have no rear armour...
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  • SirotSirot Join Date: 2006-12-03 Member: 58851Members
    The benefits of attacking behind are already there by the marine not being able to shoot the skulk in the face immediately. Anything more will pigeon hole the skulk too much and upset the balance by undoubtedly reducing his overall effectiveness when attacking from the front or the side to counteract the power of the ass chomp.
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  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    Skulks can very easily outmaneuver a marine player. Ideally the marine player wouldn't even know what hit him, but more than likely the marine will be aware of your attack and try to shoot you down. If the marine can't inflict enough damage before the skulk comes in close contact, the marine is already screwed enough as it is without doubling damage from getting chomped at from behind.

    Not to mention that this idea is only going to give a tremendous advantage to alien team at the start of the game. I see no effort to counter-balance this alien advantage that would restore balance.

    It's not a bad idea in of itself, but when you get into the practicality of it all, you clearly see how much trouble it would ultimately cause.
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  • ShadowedEclipseShadowedEclipse Join Date: 2007-08-15 Member: 61886Members
    I have to agree with some of the above posts on this one. Double damage is a big no. I think the only real additional effect I would like to see in an attack from behind would be a moderate screen shake effect, as if your character has lost there balance from being struck unexpectedly. This would shake your aim but I'm only talking a second or two. This disruption would run on a short cool down so you don't have an obnoxious repeated shake effect but I think would be nice minor bonus for aliens who do get in behind a marine, while still allowing the marine to fight back in a fair manner. Skilled players could even compensate for this effect but at that level of skill (assuming both players are equally skilled) making them miss even one or two bullets could mean the difference between victory and defeat.
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  • RobBRobB ＴＵＢＥＳ ＯＦ ＴＨＥ ＩＮＴＥＲＷＥＢ Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I don't realy care if the hit detection and lag problematic is reduced, it will still lead to annoying scenes like mentioned above: valve still didnt manage to remove facestabs (now known as shoulderstabs) from tf2.

    I disapprove of this idea.
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  • -Diesel--Diesel- Join Date: 2009-09-13 Member: 68769Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1727546:date=Sep 16 2009, 12:48 PM:name=glimmerman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (glimmerman @ Sep 16 2009, 12:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1727546"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->this could actually be a neat feature for the normal marines seeing as they have no rear armour...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    & because if you got attacked from the front... you have some arms and a gun to protect your body. But from the back you don't really have anything.
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  • NeoSniperNeoSniper Join Date: 2005-06-02 Member: 52976Members
    Vote No

    Seems way too OverPowered. If you manage to bite a marine from behind chances are you will be able to land the second chomp which would leave the marine either dead or a gorge's breath away from death in the early game (assuming they don't mess with the numbers too much in NS2).

    Also location damage in melee attack can be a real pain in the butt (hehe) like with the backstab example in TF2. Imagine if spies in TF2 would be able to wall walk, be super fast, and small. How annoying would that be? The only reason backstab works is because only a few people in the team play spy and it comes with severe handicaps.

    I know your suggestions is just 2x damage and not an instakill but the comparison holds true enough.
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  • poonzer69poonzer69 Join Date: 2009-09-27 Member: 68889Members
    i votge yea becuz the alien need to stornger beucas i herd tha te h marines are geting a flam throrewer tht wil own eveurything.
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