System requirements accurate?
SanguinesMoon
Join Date: 2009-09-20 Member: 68833Members
Join Date: 2009-09-20 Member: 68833Members
Does anyone know about the system requirements, couse I can run half life two, and the system specs are excactly the same as HL2, However, since they are using theyr own version for NS2, is it still accurate?
mymain specs are
2.4 ghz
1.5gb ram
geforce fx 5500
200+ gb hdd
"A 1.2 GHz Processor, 256MB RAM, a DirectX 9 level graphics card, Windows Vista/2000/XP, mouse, keyboard and of course, an internet connection. We are working hard to make sure NS2 runs well on average hardware without having to upgrade your machine! We will be releasing NS2 in the fall of 2009 (Northern Hemisphere)." is theyr faq post, whcih is excactly as hl2's engine.
Enlighten me please :)
mymain specs are
2.4 ghz
1.5gb ram
geforce fx 5500
200+ gb hdd
"A 1.2 GHz Processor, 256MB RAM, a DirectX 9 level graphics card, Windows Vista/2000/XP, mouse, keyboard and of course, an internet connection. We are working hard to make sure NS2 runs well on average hardware without having to upgrade your machine! We will be releasing NS2 in the fall of 2009 (Northern Hemisphere)." is theyr faq post, whcih is excactly as hl2's engine.
Enlighten me please :)
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mymain specs are
2.4 ghz
1.5gb ram
geforce fx 5500
200+ gb hdd
"A 1.2 GHz Processor, 256MB RAM, a DirectX 9 level graphics card, Windows Vista/2000/XP, mouse, keyboard and of course, an internet connection. We are working hard to make sure NS2 runs well on average hardware without having to upgrade your machine! We will be releasing NS2 in the fall of 2009 (Northern Hemisphere)." is theyr faq post, whcih is excactly as hl2's engine.
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I'm confused what you mean by "using their own version for NS2", because Natural Selection 2 is NOT on the Source engine and is on a custom built engine from the ground up. Anyways to the details about system requirements.
Based on what the devs have said about system requirements (these could change too), you do meet the minimum system requirements that the devs posted, but you probably will have a really tough time running the game at a medium graphical setting(meaning you will have to run the game at low settings). I'm going to go ahead and assume you're using a pentium 4 processor correct? Your Ram is fine if you're running windows XP. You should look into getting a new graphics card, and a new CPU if you want to max the game out. (This might also require you to upgrade your motherboard). If you're on a tight budget, a Core 2 Duo is your best option for a CPU, and a video card (nVidia) in the 9*** series is something I would recommend, or even in the 8*** series (if you can still find the 8 series on retail). Hope this has helped. I hope others give feedback as well, so you can get a mix of suggestions and find out what is best for you.
Cheers.
I am a low graph gamer, only caring about gameplay and that kind of stuff.
I kidna am happy with this pc.
Also, would there be a demo/trial out? or is it just gonna be flat out released on steam so I could see when it gets released if it runs fine on low settings on this computer.
Yes, I am also just using a pentium 4.
As said, My main concern as that is what the min specs are, if this similar to hl2 specs are the specs of ns, if its really among that specs, i would have no problem running it.
You didnt get my point. Afaik, That has been the system requirements since 2006 (or something when they announced NS2 before they decided they will make theyr own engine). Hench, thats why I am asking..
edit: After doing a quick search I found someone else asking the same thing just over a week ago and someone directed them here
<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/news/2008/10/engine_video_followup" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/news/2008..._video_followup</a>
So, you can probably play those 6v6 - 10v10 nicely if the engine is as configurable as they say, but higher might be a pain in many ways. Of course everything is speculation at this point and I highly doubt anyone is getting much enjoyment out of the game with 1,2 GHz and 256 RAM.
I am a low graph gamer, only caring about gameplay and that kind of stuff.
I kidna am happy with this pc.
Also, would there be a demo/trial out? or is it just gonna be flat out released on steam so I could see when it gets released if it runs fine on low settings on this computer.
Yes, I am also just using a pentium 4.
As said, My main concern as that is what the min specs are, if this similar to hl2 specs are the specs of ns, if its really among that specs, i would have no problem running it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you pre-order Natural Selection 2 Standard edition, you are given access to the Beta (Note that the Beta has not been released yet) If you pre-order Natural Selection Special edition, you are given access to the Alpha and Beta (Note that the Alpha has not been released yet either but will arrive before the Beta). There is still no word about the game officially being released on steam, although the game will incorperate Steam Works. www.naturalselection2.com has all the details you really need about the game. Also I suggest you check out the NS2 wiki <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/wiki/index.php/Main_Page" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/wiki/index.php/Main_Page</a> for even further information.
I'm still confused what you mean when you say "As said, My main concern as that is what the main specs are, if this similar to hl2 specs are the specs of ns"
HL2 is being ran on the Source engine which requires higher hardware configurations than the GoldSource engine which is what Natural Selection uses.
Minimum requirements mean that the game CAN function if you reach them. It probably won't be pretty and will have frame rate issues, but you can still play the game. They are no where the recommended requirements, which allows you to play the game near its highest level prettiness while maintaining a smooth frame rate. Playing a game at its minimum requirements isn't advisable in the least, but allows someone like me with a netbook to possibly play NS2 in my downtime.
(yes, I knew it would suck, I did it so I could use the mapping tools at work (had no internet and lots of free time at the time)
Bottom line is it ran the game...technically...though no-one in their right mind would choose to play on such a system. Even if you don't care about pretty graphics, you'll likely want something better than the minimum specs to achieve a good framerate
The GeForce FX series is well known for being one of Nvidia's worst line of graphics cards. For source engine game's they even have to default to DX8. I'm going to go ahead and say that on your machine, if NS2 does actually run <i>at all</i> it will absolutely be an unplayable mess.
You might be in luck with the community possibly creating some low poly packs, but that still won't get you very far.
Can you even run Left 4 Dead or large player games of Counter-Strike: Source at any level of playability at all? You say you are a gamer who values gameplay over graphics: in this case, the weakness of your computer will be <b>extremely</b> detrimental towards NS2's gameplay.
Upgrading that video card would also be a waste of money. Your machine is at the end of its time in every way. Do you even have an AGP slot? It looks to me like you can hardly even run Windows Vista, and in that case how could you play this AAA 2009 generation game?
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->- Minimum Specification:
CPU: 1.7 Ghz
RAM: 512 Mb
Video Card: NVidia GeForce FX 5700, ATI Radeon 8500 or ATI Radeon 9500
with 128 Mb of RAM
- Recommended Specification:
CPU: 2.4 Ghz
RAM: 1 Gb
Video Card with at least 256 Mb of RAM
<a href="http://www.computing.net/answers/gaming/battlefield-2-requirements/4658.html" target="_blank">http://www.computing.net/answers/gaming/ba...ments/4658.html</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A little higher than NS2's minimum specs, although it does not specify which version of DirectX it needs, so this can be a factor.
I don't think this config would run NS2 very well, but if he has an AGP slot, he can always throw a sub 100$ card in there like a Radeon X1650 Pro or something. I've seen a few of such configs and they run CS:S at medium/high settings at a very respectable framerate (two of them with a Geforce 7600 GS AGP).
Sure, it'd be simpler and better to just get a new rig, but some of us just can't afford to shell out 800$ just for a new PC.
<!--quoteo(post=1728115:date=Sep 20 2009, 07:50 PM:name=Invader_Scoot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Invader_Scoot @ Sep 20 2009, 07:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1728115"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It looks to me like you can hardly even run Windows Vista, and in that case how could you play this AAA 2009 generation game?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
AAA 2009 generation game? Don't get me wrong, but I don't think it'll be that visually stunning to fit this description. Gameplay-wise though, I totally agree.
Oh and I don't think running Vista should be used a comparison ;) Mine runs just as good as XP, but it doesn't seem to be the case for everyone ;)
You might be in luck with the community possibly creating some low poly packs, but that still won't get you very far.
Can you even run Left 4 Dead or large player games of Counter-Strike: Source at any level of playability at all? You say you are a gamer who values gameplay over graphics: in this case, the weakness of your computer will be <b>extremely</b> detrimental towards NS2's gameplay.
Upgrading that video card would also be a waste of money. Your machine is at the end of its time in every way. Do you even have an AGP slot? It looks to me like you can hardly even run Windows Vista, and in that case how could you play this AAA 2009 generation game?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually. I run DX9 for source engine with my fx 5500 and old 5200, I can run 50 man counter strike PERFECTLY fine on medium, and I honestly dont care L4D since i dont got it, and dont want it.
Its defaulted to dx8 but steam allows us to switch to dx 9.
I never said I was running vista, Vista is crap. I use XP.
What makes you think I run vista?
You do realise Left 4 Dead has way higher specs then CSS?
Not that I dont care about l4d since I dont play it.
Might I add, NS2 is not a big budged game, its not a broad marked game. It wotn come out on CD for a long time... There for, its not an AAA game. Let allone, They dont hype it as AAA games, so mass appeal isnt there. (By use of commercials,hyping it e.a)
"We will initially release NS2 on Windows (through our web-site and through Steam). After that we plan to bring it to the Mac and the Xbox 360. Maybe even Linux."
Its defaulted to dx8 but steam allows us to switch to dx 9.
I never said I was running vista, Vista is crap. I use XP.
What makes you think I run vista?
You do realise Left 4 Dead has way higher specs then CSS?
Not that I dont care about l4d since I dont play it.
Might I add, NS2 is not a big budged game, its not a broad marked game. It wotn come out on CD for a long time... There for, its not an AAA game. Let allone, They dont hype it as AAA games, so mass appeal isnt there. (By use of commercials,hyping it e.a)
"We will initially release NS2 on Windows (through our web-site and through Steam). After that we plan to bring it to the Mac and the Xbox 360. Maybe even Linux."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
While my post was definitely on the aggressive side, I feel like you misunderstood a considerable amount of my post.
Okay so you don't have Left 4 Dead. I brought it up because that game is probably right alongside NS2 as performance goes. And I made the point about DX8 defaulting on your card because those models performed so horribly that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_FX_Series#Valve_Software.27s_presentation" target="_blank">Valve had to downgrade</a> it. That was just one more of the many points I made in my original post that your computer is going to be struggling.
Another misunderstanding with your Windows Vista comment. If you computer will have a hard time running a simple operating system how are you going to play a game? This was just <b>another</b> comparison I made with your hardware. Your use of Windows XP doesn't matter.
I 100% agree with you, Counter-Strike: Source has lower performance requirements than Left 4 Dead. I brought up Counter-Strike: Source because it could be somewhat of another comparison for you with your machine, but you do say that it runs fine. That's a good sign.
After pulling out some Google, I could not find any quotes mentioning Natural Selection 2 as a AAA title like I had previously thought. Luckily for me that's not the focus of the argument, but I am very sure that I read somewhere that Charlie and the gang were planning on making this game as high quality as possible. Maybe not AAA in the sense of being boxed and having commercials, but in production values and end quality.
However this entire debate can be ended with a quote by dux only a few scrolls up.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I wouldn't expect much luck with a 5500 FX. Those things are archaic.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If your still using an AGP slotted motherboard, I think you may be stuck. The X800XT PE was basically one of the last/best AGP slotted cards (I had one), and it ran HL2 pretty much fine, but any games now a days it'd fall over or run very poorly. You can build a cheap system like said above.
- Minimum Specification:
CPU: 1.7 Ghz
RAM: 512 Mb
Video Card: NVidia GeForce FX 5700, ATI Radeon 8500 or ATI Radeon 9500
I'd say this is more realistic:
- Minimum Specification:
CPU: 2.0 Ghz
RAM: 1gb
Video Card: NVidia GeForce FX 6800, ATI Radeon x800
That's just my opinion, though.
i´d say the requirements are somewhere in between this:
<img src="http://retrothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/abacus.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
and this:
<img src="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/Cray2cascade.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
Only testing could do it, I would test, but i dotn just wanna buy a game for testing purpose (alpha, beta) as I am not keen on upgrading my whole computer as I dont have the money as wel.
A game, relative to the screenshots, as posted before, is not always on the big side. For instance, Quake 4 minimum specs are are just a bit lower then my computer, same goes for doom 3. But I can play both fine on medium.
And you will notice a slight difference between quake 4 graphics, and UT2004 graphics, where as UT2004 graphics are in my opinion alot better then quake 4, yet its build on another engine, with lower system requirements.
If there was going to be a demo like portal first slice for portal, a demo got released with limited features, gameplay. A demo would eventually be best for testing on all kinds of systems. add 1 map for each mode, and thats it, with a 3 day trial or so. That way is supossedly an effective way of testing on system requirements.
As it stands right now, I dont know how the sales go for NS2, but the peopel who most likely bought it have higher specs then the peopel who would test it on lower specs.
Or A video screen test would also be better, like Serious Sam had, where you would see on how it ran before coming to the main menu.
How do you even play games with that rig now?
Jittery and low framerates make good play very difficult.
netbook:
1.6 GHz atom processor
1 gb ram
Intel GMA 950 graphics (think i remembered that right)
old PC
Athlon 3200+ x64 processor
2 GB DDR 400 ram
Radeon HD 3650 video card (500MB i think)
new PC
intel i7 920 processor
6 GB DDR3 1600 ram
Radeon HD 4890 overclocked (1 GB DDR5)
ok, totally used that post to boast about computer specs :P...I would definitely expect NS2 to be very playable on both the desktops, though there might be a CPU bottleneck on the midrange PC, as it's just single core (slow memory too). The netbook has very typical specs for its class of PC and I wouldn't expect anything playable out of it
How do you even play games with that rig now?
Jittery and low framerates make good play very difficult.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Unlike you, I dont need to play the newest games out there... It plays anything released upon mid 2005 whcih is enough for me.
Oh, And I dont have low framerates, i have 30+ framerates, rare occasions lag *usually becouse of back ground process running* with battlefield 2 etc.
I really dont get why people atm are 'agressive' in a way of the use of speech...
edit: 30 fps is low fps. Maybe you have gotten used to it, but I'm sure your eyes disagree.
But once you get the taste of high FPS rate, it's hard to go back... Oh and yeah, I also think the minimum requirements will raise as the alpha and beta goes on.
30 is a terrible framerate for FPS gaming.
Especially for NS.
But you DO need to "play the newest games out there". This is a game slated for a fall 2009 release. Your computer is too old.
ALso, I dont see any frame drops in action in BF2 unless i got a background process running.