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SovereignceSovereignce Join Date: 2009-07-18 Member: 68182Members
I think it would be great to be able to change the look of the marine armor (i.e exchangeable shoulder pieces, helmets or no helmets) for aliens maybe choosing between different models to add a level of customization to the game. The only problem I see with this is if you get heavy armor for marines or morph into an onos or something as alien but maybe you could customize things for different morphs or armors. Its just a thought that I would love to see
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  • RobBRobB TUBES OF THE INTERWEB Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    It would increase overhead, even if it is just a number for each different part.
    Maybe its a good feature, maybe not. I think it wouldn't work out, black armor is as far as it should go as distinctiveness is an enemy of every military operation.
  • TesseractTesseract Join Date: 2007-06-21 Member: 61328Members, Constellation
    This sounds like a pointless addition designed to entertain people who want to 'pimp out' their character because their little sister is hogging the disc for The Sims.
  • NinjiNinji Join Date: 2009-07-11 Member: 68109Members
    edited July 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1717942:date=Jul 18 2009, 08:41 PM:name=Tesseract)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tesseract @ Jul 18 2009, 08:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1717942"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This sounds like a pointless addition designed to entertain people who want to 'pimp out' their character because their little sister is hogging the disc for The Sims.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <i>It's not pointless, it's quite inventive. Interesting, and well I'd enjoy to be able to customize my marine. Specially my alien, it would take away from that 'oh look at me, i'm a generic marine/alien' type feel of the game.</i>
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    This is how the micro-transaction culture started.

    If you want different looking marine or alien models download or create your own custom content. Otherwise I'm almost there with Tesseract, maybe not as harsh but it should really be the users choice to change from the default in an FPS game such as this.
  • TesseractTesseract Join Date: 2007-06-21 Member: 61328Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1717973:date=Jul 18 2009, 11:31 PM:name=Ninji)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ninji @ Jul 18 2009, 11:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1717973"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's not pointless, it's quite inventive. Interesting, and well I'd enjoy to be able to customize my marine. Specially my alien, it would take away from that 'oh look at me, i'm a generic marine/alien' type feel of the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Inventive? Interesting? Hah, if you think that's the case you might want to try that horribly overrated game series referred to in hushed whispers as "Halo." It's neither new nor anything more than people trying to show how special they are by finding the most stupid-looking combination and then wearing it because they're utterly convinced it's <b><i>rad as hell</i></b>.

    And Thaldarin aren't the NS2 marines randomly generated to have slightly different skin colours and facial features? (As well as gender.)
  • RobBRobB TUBES OF THE INTERWEB Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->(As well as gender.)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh hell, please not.
  • TesseractTesseract Join Date: 2007-06-21 Member: 61328Members, Constellation
    Oh darn yeah those women should be off in the canteen cooking meals for those Frontiersmen 'cause it's Frontiers<b>men</b>, right?

    What exactly are you complaining about?
  • SekerSeker Join Date: 2007-03-06 Member: 60259Members
    haha, I can imagine it already, painting little 100x100 textures and using them on some part on the marine :P
  • slayer20slayer20 Killed a man once. Join Date: 2007-12-13 Member: 63157Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Actually, I think it would be a little neat to have a small selection of customizable armor for the Marines. Nothing that would make them stand out to much, but a nice little detail within the game.

    Another suggestion would be when the player spawns, a random player model would be given to them depending on their chosen gender.
  • RobBRobB TUBES OF THE INTERWEB Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1717990:date=Jul 19 2009, 01:07 AM:name=Tesseract)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tesseract @ Jul 19 2009, 01:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1717990"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh darn yeah those women should be off in the canteen cooking meals for those Frontiersmen 'cause it's Frontiers<b>men</b>, right?

    What exactly are you complaining about?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I dislike crossplaying just as much as I hate <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/ManFaye_AnimeExpo_2006.jpg" target="_blank">crossdressing</a>
  • FocusedWolfFocusedWolf Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34258Members
    edited July 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1717942:date=Jul 18 2009, 03:41 PM:name=Tesseract)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tesseract @ Jul 18 2009, 03:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1717942"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This sounds like a pointless addition designed to entertain people who want to 'pimp out' their character because their little sister is hogging the disc for The Sims.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I see nothing wrong with this idea. At the least i'd like it possible on the clientside-only, in terms of changing what my enemy and fellow marines look like.

    <a href="http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/clonetroopers.jpg" target="_blank">http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/clonetroopers.jpg</a> note the reskinned lmg and phase gate

    <a href="http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/hmg.jpg" target="_blank">http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/hmg.jpg</a> note the cool hmg i use

    Also note i originally was using a black armored marine + black armored heavy in NS1... i've been using such models for as long as i've played NS which can be measured in years. Basically theirs a skinned turret factory and phase gate and all guns are black... new pistol, shotgun... heavy is a black also... both the turret and siege cannon are black and remodeled in the models pack i use/abuse...

    I'll dig up some more screenshots... like i still have black heavies so they look really stunning when standing next to the white clone troopers.


    I really hope that NS2 features this level of modding on the clientside, independent of server mods, so you can skin your gameplay and use them on any server. That's how halflife 1 is for NS now.

    EDIT: Here's a few more pics of the other skins

    <a href="http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/ns_stargate-xt9gatefun.jpg" target="_blank">http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/ns_stargate-xt9gatefun.jpg</a>

    <a href="http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/heavy.jpg" target="_blank">http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/heavy.jpg</a>

    <a href="http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/starshiptrooperseasilyspottableskulk.jpg" target="_blank">http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/starship...ttableskulk.jpg</a>

    <a href="http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/jetpants.jpg" target="_blank">http://wolfsfiles.googlepages.com/jetpants.jpg</a>
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    Having all the marines look the same would be racist! And sexist!
    You don't want UWE to be considered sexist racists, do you?
  • TesseractTesseract Join Date: 2007-06-21 Member: 61328Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1718023:date=Jul 19 2009, 03:19 AM:name=RobB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RobB @ Jul 19 2009, 03:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1718023"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I dislike crossplaying just as much as I hate crossdressing<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes because those are exactly the same thing and it totally matters? Do you expect the HUD of the female marines to be pink with kitties and rainbows and unicorns giggling all around the outside? Grow up and stop living in your male-obsessed little comfort zone.

    <!--quoteo(post=1718019:date=Jul 19 2009, 02:40 AM:name=slayer20)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (slayer20 @ Jul 19 2009, 02:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1718019"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Another suggestion would be when the player spawns, a random player model would be given to them depending on their chosen gender.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NS1 did this - there were three player models of varying skin colours, and the news post announced that women would be in NS2 - heck, look at the marine at the top of this forum (with the NS2 skin active, of course), that's a woman, for all you gender-confused. Which makes this:
    <!--quoteo(post=1718067:date=Jul 19 2009, 10:41 AM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ Jul 19 2009, 10:41 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1718067"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Having all the marines look the same would be racist! And sexist!
    You don't want UWE to be considered sexist racists, do you?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> a little redundant, albeit humorous.

    <!--quoteo(post=1718035:date=Jul 19 2009, 05:22 AM:name=FocusedWolf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FocusedWolf @ Jul 19 2009, 05:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1718035"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I see nothing wrong with this idea. At the least i'd like it possible on the clientside-only, in terms of changing what my enemy and fellow marines look like.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Client-side modding I have nothing against. It's server-side or on a per-server basis that I consider pointless. You're perfectly welcome to make your own visuals look like pig's vomit but I don't see why other people should have to be subjected to the digital gaming equivalent of "What Not to Wear."
  • Dalin SeivewrightDalin Seivewright 0x0000221E Join Date: 2007-10-20 Member: 62685Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1718091:date=Jul 19 2009, 08:14 AM:name=Tesseract)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tesseract @ Jul 19 2009, 08:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1718091"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->...
    It's server-side or on a per-server basis that I consider pointless. You're perfectly welcome to make your own visuals look like pig's vomit but I don't see why other people should have to be subjected to the digital gaming equivalent of "What Not to Wear."<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is going to happen regardless of what you're against. If you don't like custom models on the server side, I guess you might want to stick to Vanilla.

    I would love customizable characters. They could be implemented in such a way that an "achievements" system can unlock different pieces much the same way that TF2 once did it. I wouldn't want such a system to interfere with Natural Selection 2 development though. They aren't even done the game yet and if I attempted to take into account something like this they might not get very far. Instead, I would probably leave the developer community for something like this. A client side component as well as a server-side component.

    On the client side you get a nice little menu that lets you choose from a variety of pieces/things to put on your armor. When you connect to a server that has the server side component, the server will display the custom armor rather than the standard. Otherwise, the standard armor (assuming the players have an option of what Gender they are and what they look like is available) is displayed.

    Really though, I wouldn't want this for armor pieces really, but perhaps armor decals or customizable face (ala Guild Wars, Oblivion).
  • RobBRobB TUBES OF THE INTERWEB Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited July 2009
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes because those are exactly the same thing and it totally matters? Do you expect the HUD of the female marines to be pink with kitties and rainbows and unicorns giggling all around the outside? Grow up and stop living in your male-obsessed little comfort zone.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, why should I? Anyway, I'd like to be able control as what Gender I play, thank you.
  • TesseractTesseract Join Date: 2007-06-21 Member: 61328Members, Constellation
    You were the kid who cried a lot as a kid because he genuinely thought the girls had given him cooties, I'm guessing?
  • wirywiry Join Date: 2009-05-25 Member: 67479Members
    This isn't an mmo.
  • SovereignceSovereignce Join Date: 2009-07-18 Member: 68182Members
    The point is just to add some depth to your characters maybe like 3-4 custom pieces per model or something because i personally liked it when in TF2 or yes even in halo when i could do a small amount to customize my character even just a small amount.
  • TesseractTesseract Join Date: 2007-06-21 Member: 61328Members, Constellation
    I refer to how people feel this inherant need to make sure people are aware that they're special. And I might mean the more perjorative meaning of 'special.'
  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1718067:date=Jul 19 2009, 07:41 PM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ Jul 19 2009, 07:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1718067"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Having all the marines look the same would be racist! And sexist!
    You don't want UWE to be considered sexist racists, do you?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    does that mean UWE will have to make a model for "people of size" or "morbidly big boned" people ? They make up 61% of adult males in Australia now, so don't leave them out.

    of course that might spark another thread which will discuss whether people using the fat model will cost twice as much fuel to fly a jet pack.......
    </sarcasm>

    come on everyone, its a game, leave the politics and correctness out of it, if it increase fun immersion then its a plus :)



    I remember reading that they were planning very basic customization, slightly different helmets and small variances in the armor that's all. Just so it doesn't look like TSA clone wars - it was in one of the early webcasts or blog posts
  • FocusedWolfFocusedWolf Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34258Members
    I guess know one here has a playstation 3 and plays warhawk.

    In that game you can customize your character a bazillion ways, and in addition customize the skin applied to your aircraft when you climb into one... on top of that, the higher you go up in rank, the more custom clothing is unlocked for you. Their are other things you can choose to, like logos that get applied to your characters outfit and to your aircraft, and of course the color of the logo.

    So the game plays fine regardless of all of this customization. It doesn't interfere 1% with the fighting. Doesn't cause any lagging. And it looks cool and can be functional if you choose the right skins for their camouflaging abilities. i.e. if you wear a brown leather jacket instead of a bright white tank top, then you won't die as much xD
  • HarimauHarimau Join Date: 2007-12-24 Member: 63250Members
    edited July 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1718163:date=Jul 20 2009, 06:37 AM:name=schkorpio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (schkorpio @ Jul 20 2009, 06:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1718163"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->does that mean UWE will have to make a model for "people of size" or "morbidly big boned" people ? They make up 61% of adult males in Australia now, so don't leave them out.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    F-ck, no. They're just lazy.

    ---

    Thing is, there are standards for the military. One of those standards are that soldiers are healthy and physically fit. Fat people don't make the cut.
    BUT the standards for being a soldier don't include that you are male (well, arguable) and white, unless it's the Ku Klux Klan.

    As far as customisation goes, people should be able to specify:
    green/black armour, sex, skin tone, maybe facial features, MAYBE hair (would you ever even see it though?), and MAYBE one decal for the armour.

    ---

    Aliens can all be generic, they don't need customisation. They're like ants and bees. They are born simply to live and die for the hive.
  • RobBRobB TUBES OF THE INTERWEB Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1718130:date=Jul 19 2009, 09:17 PM:name=Tesseract)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tesseract @ Jul 19 2009, 09:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1718130"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You were the kid who cried a lot as a kid because he genuinely thought the girls had given him cooties, I'm guessing?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    they actualy infected me with face herpes which just broke out again, but never mind.
    I like females and have not any anger or whatsoever against them, I just don't want to be <b>forced</b> to play a female model.

    It's like being forced into a locker which is welded shut afterwards. If you have fun playing females as a male, so be it. I don't.
  • NinjiNinji Join Date: 2009-07-11 Member: 68109Members
    edited July 2009
    <i>Why are we taking stabs [making insults] towards our fellow people. I don't get it, its in no way constructive, nor is it making any plausible progress Tesseract.

    @topic: --

    Customization is needed. If not some form of differentiation between other players. Or at least a easy way to tell apart your friends from some random khaara, as well as marine. It is not really that bad of an Idea, and it dosent take up too many resources nor time for ukw to do it. A few shade changes, and slight color change wouldn't hurt anyone. Why does every forum topic I see, turn up as a mud slinging contest [Note what Tesseract said]. Is there a problem with making good progress for the good of every fan of Natural Selection, or are you all selfish and morbidly driven into a self destructive state of mind that you must disassemble every attempt to improve or improvise things that you do not fully agree with yourself but yet others do?

    It dosent matter if its a MMO or not, a player should have a choice. If they themselves want to be a female in game or not it is of their own discretion, you have very little right to bash them under the bases that they prefer to play as a male, their own gender while gaming. It is not sexist, its preference. No where in this topic have i heard that from any of the contributing members aside from some statement that again was taking a stab at another forum user.

    Who here dose not want a little depth within their character that they play as in any game? If not down to some article of clothing, to their weapons. Customization is a sheer necessity and it should be implemented for the greater good of the future gaming community of NS2. Quit trying to take us two steps back every time we want to take a step forward, it makes no sense and is quite maddening to see at any extent.</i>
  • TesseractTesseract Join Date: 2007-06-21 Member: 61328Members, Constellation
    Maybe if people stopped wanting Natural Selection 2 to be Halo 4 then I'd have less things to complain about.
  • Dalin SeivewrightDalin Seivewright 0x0000221E Join Date: 2007-10-20 Member: 62685Members, Constellation
    Obvious troll is obvious.
  • TesseractTesseract Join Date: 2007-06-21 Member: 61328Members, Constellation
    edited July 2009
    If I'm a troll for calling someone out for being sexist about something that doesn't make an iota of difference, then I shall willingly accept my title.

    edit: grammar
  • KwilKwil Join Date: 2003-07-06 Member: 17963Members
    I'm all for this so long as it can't effect gameplay/game performance at all, or loading times more than a few seconds.

    Hey, you wanna make yourself a big target, you go right ahead.
  • RzrRzr Join Date: 2009-04-02 Member: 67002Members
    If customization (high degree or not) is implemented, I suggest a menu is created, where you can customize each type of form you can take (normal rine, JP, skulk, onos and so on).

    However in competitive games theres a slight advantage if your team uses generic looks (dk if thats the onos you fired for half-an-hour or yet another one situation) so there should be a server setting to allow customizable models or just the default version.
  • RobBRobB TUBES OF THE INTERWEB Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1718246:date=Jul 20 2009, 06:37 PM:name=Tesseract)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tesseract @ Jul 20 2009, 06:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1718246"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If I'm a troll for calling someone out for being sexist about something that doesn't make an iota of difference, then I shall willingly accept my title.

    edit: grammar<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Seriously, what do you think has my oppinion to do with being a sexist?
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