Get all the new TF2 weapons instantaneously.

moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
<div class="IPBDescription">For those of you that just want to play to relax.</div><a href="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=558371" target="_blank">http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=558371</a>

Worked for me last night, though I had to restart my machine before I had any of them in-game.

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  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    edited May 2009
    WARNING:
    Valve has made a point of punishing people during the last update who used SAM. They didn't ban accounts, but they did ban usage of weapons for a week or so.
    The first post in that thread you link to is completely false. Though it uses the Steam API to do it, it is very detectable because of the strange manner in which your achievements are unlocked... (Someone who gets 30 achievements within 1 second is probably using this.)

    NOTE:
    Also, you don't need to unlock all your achievements. You can just unlock the milestone ones to get the weapons and then enjoy the achievements on their own merit.

    SMILEY:
    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />

    DISCLAIMER:
    Personally, I don't have a problem with anyone who uses this, though I think some people might get a little "butt-sore" over it.
    I find the achievement milestone system highly flawed, and Valve themselves have admitted to this in trying to make a new system for weapon unlocks.

    EDIT MARKER:
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    I like how this guy says "Valve will never be able to tell you cheated" when valve will receive, on their achievement server, a record of you gaining every achievement within less then a second.

    Not suspicious at all, no sir!

    In the end, if you are REALLY desperate for achievements, I suppose you could give this a try, but USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. You are risking account bannination, and installing of potentially malicious software. I personally can not suggest it, and am quite surprised you of all people, Moultano, would post a link to something so potentially malicious on this forum.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    I don't see how Valve could possibly complain about people using this considering how now the unlocks are no longer symbolic of any sort of achievement. If they are random, then everyone can theoretically get them, so nobody can feel particularly butthurt about it because they could have just got all the unlocks anyway.

    I haven't checked the link but if, on the other hand, it unlocks the actual achievements, Valve could be a bit pissed off because then they would be devaluing a supposedly skill-based achievements system, not just a random unlock system.
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    <a href="http://gib.me/sam/" target="_blank">http://gib.me/sam/</a>

    Here's the guys website who made it, there are no viruses and he's not gonna steal all your steam accounts. Hell I know some people who live in Washington that went for a tour around valve and the guys there said they couldn't really care if people used the unlocker (this was before the scout update where they took everyones stuff for a week) That's the only bad thing that'll happen.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1708757:date=May 31 2009, 02:00 AM:name=Redford)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Redford @ May 31 2009, 02:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708757"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I like how this guy says "Valve will never be able to tell you cheated" when valve will receive, on their achievement server, a record of you gaining every achievement within less then a second.

    Not suspicious at all, no sir!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First paragraph of my last post.

    <!--quoteo(post=1708802:date=May 31 2009, 07:18 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Crispy @ May 31 2009, 07:18 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708802"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't see how Valve could possibly complain about people using this considering how now the unlocks are no longer symbolic of any sort of achievement. If they are random, then everyone can theoretically get them, so nobody can feel particularly butthurt about it because they could have just got all the unlocks anyway.

    I haven't checked the link but if, on the other hand, it unlocks the actual achievements, Valve could be a bit pissed off because then they would be devaluing a supposedly skill-based achievements system, not just a random unlock system.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It lets you unlock any achievement for any game. The smart people only unlock the milestone achievements and leave the rest to get through normal play...
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I used this for the Scout stuff. I never even lost my unlockables. The only reason I haven't used it for Sniper/Spy is because I don't play those classes.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited May 2009
    I still don't have any hat, I'm outraged! When do we get an unlocker for that...
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1708846:date=May 31 2009, 10:23 AM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ May 31 2009, 10:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708846"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I still don't have any hat, I'm outraged! When do we get an unlocker for that...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    TF2 Fake Idler
    <a href="http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1611&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0" target="_blank">http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=F...asc&start=0</a>
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1708919:date=May 31 2009, 08:51 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psyke @ May 31 2009, 08:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708919"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->TF2 Fake Idler
    <a href="http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1611&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0" target="_blank">http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=F...asc&start=0</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    WTF! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited May 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1708919:date=May 31 2009, 07:51 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psyke @ May 31 2009, 07:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708919"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->TF2 Fake Idler
    <a href="http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1611&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0" target="_blank">http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=F...asc&start=0</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I'm kinda glad this was made, not that I care enough to use it. I just think if Valve are willing to admit that tying unlocks to achievements is a bad idea, why not just give everyone the unlocks after X hours of play? The only reason to have it done randomly is to artificially extend the necessary playtime before you can play the full game (i.e. with all the weapons), because doing ti artificially is a lot easier than actually making the sort of content that really increases longevity: maps and game modes.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    This is why I love iterative development: So you don't lose everything when your stupid ###### is stupid and ###### and you can scrap it and try something new.
    I read a story about some art course or something where they were tasked with painting a picture. Fair amount of work, they had three weeks to do it in. At the end, they were told to destroy it: A lesson about being able to throw something that you've invested a lot of time in away.

    So here's the question: Will Valve see that their effort to replace the unlock system (a noble goal in itself) has failed spectacularly, and will they face reality and begin anew, or will they soldier on, oblivious to the negative reaction?
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1708999:date=May 31 2009, 07:27 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ May 31 2009, 07:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1708999"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is why I love iterative development: So you don't lose everything when your stupid ###### is stupid and ###### and you can scrap it and try something new.
    I read a story about some art course or something where they were tasked with painting a picture. Fair amount of work, they had three weeks to do it in. At the end, they were told to destroy it: A lesson about being able to throw something that you've invested a lot of time in away.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Iterative development does not mean what you think it means. What you seem to be referring to is more like version control.

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So here's the question: Will Valve see that their effort to replace the unlock system (a noble goal in itself) has failed spectacularly, and will they face reality and begin anew, or will they soldier on, oblivious to the negative reaction?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think the new system is so broken it needs to be scrapped. I just think it needs more work. THAT is the beauty of iterative development. If you don't get it quite right the first time you can learn from it and build from it.

    The other nice thing about iterative development, though it doesn't really apply here, is that you have a playable version at every iteration. This allows a game to be playtested from very early in the development cycle.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    edited June 2009
    I guess I should've specified short iterations. The benefit of short iterations is that when you ###### up completely, the amount of work you lose is acceptable. And that's what they're doing here. First iteration: Randomised unlocks. Second iteration: Trading system.
    If they had done it all at once they still wouldn't be done with it, and since they hadn't yet released anything they wouldn't know that it's ###### and needs to be scrapped. They know that now. The question is whether they'll face reality.

    It doesn't need more work, it needs a do-over. The entire idea is ludicrous from start to finish, and that's why they need to scrap what they've made so far and hoof it back to the drawing board. It's not broken beyond repair, that's not the problem. The problem isn't the enormous amount of bugs that plague the new system - those can be fixed. The problem is that it's ######. It's a fecal pie served with a glass of jarate, and no amount of seasoning will change that.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1709194:date=Jun 1 2009, 10:53 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Jun 1 2009, 10:53 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1709194"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The problem is that it's ######. It's a fecal pie served with a glass of jarate, and no amount of seasoning will change that.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Still better than achievement based. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1709221:date=Jun 1 2009, 11:30 AM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psyke @ Jun 1 2009, 11:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1709221"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Still better than achievement based. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I disagree with what you say, so I will not defend to the death your right to say it.

    Achievement system was Ace for the scout unlocks, they had it 95% of the way to perfect and then they said:

    "Whoops let's just toss all that out and try something <i><b>stupid</b></i>"
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Meh, the new achievement system may be stupid, but I'll still work within the game and not resort to cheating to get my stuff.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    The reason I think the achievement system sucked is because it caused people to use a delinquent playstyle, and because it took the fun out of achievements. The new system fixes both of these issues, but creates more issues due to the removal of control from the player. I feel that if they introduce a element of control and reduce the randomness they would have a system which accomplishes their objective--get people playing for longer, playing the game correctly, and rewarding those who keep playing.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    edited June 2009
    "They could, for starters, stop giving people duplicates instead of stuff they don't have yet."
    "But then you couldn't trade with oth-.."
    "NOR WOULD YOU NEED TO."


    Funny anecdote: I got "Dead Reckoning" (Kill an enemy with an arrow while you're dead) when a demoman I had thrown pee at blew himself and me up. I had the sniper rifle equipped.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Needless to say; I don't care what Valve *want* me to do.

    So, unlocked every weapon, then removed the Achievements afterwards. Now I can play the game at my leisure in the manner I choose, and still get to see the Achievements as just a 'Oh, woo' moment, rather than actively grinding them. It's a horrid, horrid system in my opinion.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    hey I got all my achievements legit <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> apart from the 20 or so I got in the medic update for "cheating" :/ which were then reinstated with the full set, ohwells :|
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