Best gliding mousepad for laser mouse ?

Browser_ICEBrowser_ICE Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6944Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Affecting my NS gameplay</div>For the past 2 months, I have been having a mouse problem that is affecting my NS gameplay. Initially I thought it was a performance or driver issue. My mouse precision is dropping.

But I have found out that it is entirely because of the surface I use for my laser mouse. The mouse does not glide smoothly enough causing a lack in precision.

So doing a bit of google research on this problem I found out that I should use special mousepads called glides or gliders. But there are so many and not cheap.

Which one would you recommend that would last me a while (at least a year) and have the best gliding effect possible for a laser mouth ?

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  • sherpasherpa stopcommandermode Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58338Members
    edited May 2009
    Laser mice are poop, the selling strategy was "guys who needs girly opticals when you can use a LASER" yet optical mice are far superior and less fussy about mouse mats.

    I *think* the current mat I'm using was the one I bought with my now-retired laser mouse. It's an Everglide Titan and I got it for around £8. Worked fine with my laser. Stay away from expensive mats like the Arctic series of glass mats. Companies like Arctic and Razer have suckered gamers into thinking more expensive = better.

    I'm not sure about these gliders you speak of but you can buy skates for certain mice- friction-free material you apply to the feet so they are in contact with the mouse mat. Razer sell some at extortionate prices. I imagine there's bound to be some generic ones that do the same thing.

    But if you've got the cash go grab a Razer DeathAdder. It's an IR mouse that's recognised as being the best out there and is a return to form for Razer mice. Fairly pricely (about £45 IIRC) but worth it.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1706120:date=May 3 2009, 07:50 AM:name=sherpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sherpa @ May 3 2009, 07:50 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1706120"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Laser mice are poop, the selling strategy was "guys who needs girly opticals when you can use a LASER" yet optical mice are far superior and less fussy about mouse mats.
    ...
    But if you've got the cash go grab a Razer DeathAdder. It's an IR mouse that's recognised as being the best out there and is a return to form for Razer mice. Fairly pricely (about £45 IIRC) but worth it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree completely. Laser is such a ripoff. I <3 my DeathAdder. They actually have a 1 year warranty on it too, so if anything funky starts happening as long as you have proof of purchase they'll fix it for you.
    I'm very happy with that fact, as my mouse started acting up. Their customer support is terrible, but still, I didn't need to buy a new one.
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    Any "scatez" or gliders, as they are called, are fine for mouse movement. The problem comes in when you combine it with different surfaces to glide on. Razer eXactmat has two sides, one being rough and the other smooth. They are called "speed" (smooth) and "control" (rough). Usually the mouse skatez give up first, that is to say they are worn down so much that the actual mouse plastics touch the pad. Something that might fix this slightly would be cleaning the pad with dish soap, cleaning away any grease. Otherwise you must buy new gliders so they once again carry the mouse over the surface. Razer original skatez are teflon based so I imagine they work on most pads though.
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    I've bought one of these : <a href="http://www.steelseries.com/int/products/surfaces/qck/information" target="_blank">http://www.steelseries.com/int/products/su...qck/information</a> , works pretty well.
    I have an optical mouse though, Logitech MX518.
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1706145:date=May 3 2009, 07:47 PM:name=Zaggy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zaggy @ May 3 2009, 07:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1706145"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've bought one of these : <a href="http://www.steelseries.com/int/products/surfaces/qck/information" target="_blank">http://www.steelseries.com/int/products/su...qck/information</a> , works pretty well.
    I have an optical mouse though, Logitech MX518.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Beware those if you have a Deathadder, it registers movement way to high when you lift the mouse.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1706147:date=May 3 2009, 03:08 PM:name=Svenpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Svenpa @ May 3 2009, 03:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1706147"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Beware those if you have a Deathadder, it registers movement way to high when you lift the mouse.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have a cloth mat (not that one, but a different one). I don't have a problem when i lift it.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited May 2009
    MX518, the ultimate precision guidance system for all your FPS projectile hurling needs. I got one as well (an up to the task descendent of the MX500)

    As for lasermice pad. I dunno since I nevah used one... A fiend of mine has a black smooth surface mousepad that works pretty wel for lasers though
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    Out of curiosity, how critical is it to get a quality cloth pad when upgrading to a shiny optical mouse?

    I'm thinking of finally dumping my trusty ball mouse.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    edited May 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1706159:date=May 3 2009, 08:35 PM:name=spellman23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spellman23 @ May 3 2009, 08:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1706159"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Out of curiosity, how critical is it to get a quality cloth pad when upgrading to a shiny optical mouse?

    I'm thinking of finally dumping my trusty ball mouse.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Based on the hugely scientific test I just conducted... (by moving my mousepad away and trying my Razer DeathAdder straight on the desk) ...not too critical.

    The mat makes it feel a lot smoother, but it seemed to track just fine on the desk alone.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    mx310 logitech optical on a black icemat <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> years of service.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Same mouse on grody old blue no-name mousepad. I think I've got fungi growing in here by now...
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1706161:date=May 4 2009, 01:54 AM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psyke @ May 4 2009, 01:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1706161"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Based on the hugely scientific test I just conducted... (by moving my mousepad away and trying my Razer DeathAdder straight on the desk) ...not too critical.

    The mat makes it feel a lot smoother, but it seemed to track just fine on the desk alone.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    But the glides will have half the lifetime, also nice for the hand.
  • A_Boojum_SnarkA_Boojum_Snark Join Date: 2003-09-07 Member: 20628Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1706132:date=May 3 2009, 10:34 AM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Psyke @ May 3 2009, 10:34 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1706132"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Laser is such a ripoff.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Except when you have so many coupons and discounts available you can get a G5 for $5 flat. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /> That said... I haven't used a mousepad since I dropped the ball mouse years back, and haven't really missed them. If your desk is a smooth enough finish I think it's just a matter of the feet on the mouse itself.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    edited May 2009
    I picked up an <a href="http://www.cybersnipa.com/eu/products/aluminium-mouse-pad-mat.php" target="_blank"> aluminium mousepad from Cyber Snipa</a> when I was in Spain a while back. I'd definitely recommend it: the surface is nice and smooth and seems very resistant to scratches. It's also nice and wide (the mouse in the pic is slightly misleading, it's about 75% the size of my Razer Diamondback). It also has a non-slip base which works flawlessly. And if you go to LANs much and care about these things it also has a carry case. Prices on the website but I bought it in-store at El Corte Inglés for what looks to be slightly more than the online price (but to be fair as it was at a department store I paid a bit of a ripoff price).
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    I like my Logitech laser mouse quite a bit. I'm no competitive gamer, though. It's the first wireless mouse I've used that's actually reliable and has enough battery life to be worth it. Also what sold me on it is the scroll wheel, which will keep spinning if you give it a flick, until you stop it. It has momentum. <3 maybe that's a standard feature in gamer mice these days, I don't know.

    as for the original topic, I don't use a mousepad for my laser mouse. it reads my desk just fine.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    Yeah I've had a lot of lousy desks for optical mice in the optical mouse era of online gaming, my cheapo pc world laser mouse has had no problems with tracking at all. It's practically mary poppins, though ofcourse you have to keep the low-friction feet/base of the mouse free of dirt and you need to clean your desk frequently too. I had to move house again last year and am currently playing on a pasting table so bleh :/ the varnish is starting to wear on it lol; also don't forget that correct hand/wrist posture contributes to surface drag, as ridiculous as it sounds you might wanna clean your hands <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    A funny thing is I have never been as good at games since before I started caring about what I used. The good old counter-strike and NS days had me using a non-descript intellimouse on a random pad or table. I get the feeling that the more you care, the more you lose with each new configure/hardware instead of getting a standardized setup which behaves exactly the same each and every time.

    Anyone else?
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    edited May 2009
    when I was about 17 I used to be obsessed about everything, from the angles and positions of all my equipment, to the metre of desk space I originally used in my ball mouse / insanely large arm movement days <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

    the only thing I never wanted to tweak was the actual game config because I considered it cheating <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

    but ehh, now my pcs a pile of ###### and my gears falling to pieces, my jump button doesnt even work; I move regularly and my current desk wobbles a hilarious amount, dont give a flying ###### <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> though the low fps gets a bit disheartening at times
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1706233:date=May 4 2009, 11:25 PM:name=Svenpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Svenpa @ May 4 2009, 11:25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1706233"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->A funny thing is I have never been as good at games since before I started caring about what I used. The good old counter-strike and NS days had me using a non-descript intellimouse on a random pad or table. I get the feeling that the more you care, the more you lose with each new configure/hardware instead of getting a standardized setup which behaves exactly the same each and every time.

    Anyone else?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->It's called getting older and having less practise. I think I was at my peak from 13-17, which was with a rollerball mouse (that I fixed twice by putting folded paper under the worn-out button contacts). I also played a lot more back then: it was basically 'school > counter-strike/tfc > homework during registration, lessons and break!'
  • Browser_ICEBrowser_ICE Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6944Members
    For most of the times, my mice (Microsoft wireless, Logitech with cord) are on a wooden desk surface but that surface is not smooth enough to my taste not allowing precise movements. I tried different approaches with several mousepads I have (ordinary one, aluminum one, aluminum one covered with transparent tape) but I still do not have smooth enough precision. Its like trying to move the mouse on my screen slowly enough and smoothly enough to only move by a few fonts is hard enough.

    I have thought of putting a thin glass on the surface but haven't tried it yet.

    Feels weird to play with my wireless again. I had gotten used to the wired one for the past 6 months.
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1706222:date=May 4 2009, 08:43 PM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DiscoZombie @ May 4 2009, 08:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1706222"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also what sold me on it is the scroll wheel, which will keep spinning if you give it a flick, until you stop it. It has momentum. <3 maybe that's a standard feature in gamer mice these days, I don't know.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I've actually found I prefer ones where they click. Sometimes I need the scroll wheel for precise changes, especially when using my editing software.
  • A_Boojum_SnarkA_Boojum_Snark Join Date: 2003-09-07 Member: 20628Members
    On good mouses there is a button that mechanically switches between freewheeling and incremental.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    I've got a Lachesis and I use a Mantis Speed & Control with it. Works pretty well, used to have a QcK before. I find cloth works well.
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