Gestation

M00_cowM00_cow Join Date: 2007-03-02 Member: 60180Members, Constellation
edited February 2009 in Ideas and Suggestions
<div class="IPBDescription">Can i quit halfway please!! The marines are attacking!</div>As my topic description says, and as I'm sure many of you have experienced at one time or another, when you are mid way through onos gestation, and the marines attack, it is sad. You panic! First thing I try to do is cancel it, then i remember you can't.

Now, in theory, being unable to cancel gestation is how it should be. I mean, imagine if you popped out mid lerk gestation. You got 2 legs, 1 wing and no eyes. (wow i may have just made a wicked new alien idea)

So. Should egg be able to be cancelled? No points refund?

Just an idea. I know how annoying it is to die in egg, and I'm sure you all do too.

P.s. if you say, don't be retarded and egg in a safe spot, no need. Said it right there.
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  • pSyk0mAnpSyk0mAn Nerdish by Nature Germany Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19166Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1699609:date=Feb 6 2009, 02:54 AM:name=M00_cow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(M00_cow @ Feb 6 2009, 02:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1699609"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->P.s. if you say, don't be retarded and egg in a safe spot, no need. Said it right there.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You are right, there is nothing else to say.
    ..except maybe that mappers should add more safe spots for onos eggs, at least for each possible hive location.

    I don't think one should be able to cancel gestation and in ns2 things work differently anyway judging from the podcasts.
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  • GaussWaffleGaussWaffle Join Date: 2008-02-22 Member: 63708Members
    My one belief is that you should inherit your prior life form's upgrades when you egg. I.E. You get carapace, cloaking, and silence if you had those upgrades before, but they'd reset once you're done gestating
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  • StarClawsStarClaws Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9974Members
    Simple...

    The hive hangs from the ceiling... Why can't eggs as well?

    Biology 101 folks...
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  • PhiXXPhiXX Join Date: 2008-10-22 Member: 65274Members
    Egging on top of the hive ftw!
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  • aNytiMeaNytiMe Join Date: 2008-03-31 Member: 64007Members, Constellation
    Eggs should take twice as long to hatch and should have tentacles so they can crawl slowly. Extremely slowly. Egg rush anyone?
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  • Spargus11Spargus11 Join Date: 2008-12-20 Member: 65820Members
    maybe hive should be able to spawn decoy eggs? by its self?
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  • c3ntauriusc3ntaurius Join Date: 2005-03-05 Member: 43304Members
    Well, perhaps a player could gestate inside the hive (1 at time max), for protection. Specially the onos eggs
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  • ItalianmagicItalianmagic Join Date: 2008-12-13 Member: 65755Members
    instead of gorge suits, EGG SUITS. :] marines ftw
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  • WootlolWootlol Join Date: 2009-03-31 Member: 66976Members
    As anytime said: eggs should had somekinda def system and low speed moving would be cool ^^. They should make egg movement possible when you are gestating on infested ground. And egging in roof/wall sounds great too! BUT only if wall/roof is infested.
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  • chisschiss Join Date: 2008-06-05 Member: 64395Members, Constellation
    edited April 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1703875:date=Apr 1 2009, 11:12 PM:name=Wootlol)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wootlol @ Apr 1 2009, 11:12 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1703875"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As anytime said: eggs should had somekinda def system and low speed moving would be cool ^^. They should make egg movement possible when you are gestating on infested ground. And egging in roof/wall sounds great too! BUT only if wall/roof is infested.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    *Let's be nice* --Comprox

    Egging is meant to be a risky process. If you're going to onos, get your team to make sure you're safe.
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  • WootlolWootlol Join Date: 2009-03-31 Member: 66976Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1704152:date=Apr 4 2009, 01:41 AM:name=chiss)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chiss @ Apr 4 2009, 01:41 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1704152"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->*Let's be nice* --Comprox

    Egging is meant to be a risky process. If you're going to onos, get your team to make sure you're safe.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Well yea thats true too ^^ but sometimes ur team is just stupid and leaves you alone near hive that marines are attacking <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /> Call for help button would be cool in ns2 when gestating.
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  • xposed-xposed- Join Date: 2007-09-23 Member: 62412Members, Constellation
    Making sure you don't get womped while gestating is just another part of the NS strategy, no way should gestation be abort able.
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  • EvilSmooEvilSmoo Join Date: 2008-02-16 Member: 63662Members
    Uhm, wouldn't an egg that can move be a larvae? And anyway, a "larvae" stage would probably be more in line with aliens than eggs anyway. And less boring.

    Egg- defenseless, no control, basically just a "sit and wait".

    Larvae- slow movement, player is NOT bored. And could possibly be given a weak spit weapon just for kicks.


    It'd keep players more immersed, and offer some minimal hive defense. Also, a size multiplier would make sense, a larvae growing into an Onos would be a helluva lot bigger than a little Lerk larvae <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />. And yeah, the larvae should inherit armor/health values from what they're growing into, with less raw HP and health regen to make up for it, but some armor value. Perhaps a requirement that the larva needs to be at 100% health to change?
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  • PaladinDudePaladinDude Join Date: 2006-12-04 Member: 58881Members, Constellation
    About egging, can we have the eggs grow or shrink to fit the size of the creature being evolved from/to? So when evolving from a skulk to onos the egg would gradually grow to encompas the size of the onos before popping and revealing the final creature. Similarly, when going from Fade to lerk (for example) the egg would start fade sized and then shrink to fit the lerk.

    It always bugged me that an onos would pop into existance out of a tiny egg!
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  • spawnof2000spawnof2000 Join Date: 2007-09-01 Member: 62111Members
    just one thing if you cancelled and there were no points refunded then there would be no point is cancelling anyway
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  • paperjackpaperjack Join Date: 2009-02-14 Member: 66410Members
    What about beign able to wander around as a glowie while you are in the egg?
    You could help explorating for the comm and defend your egg by blinding the enemy.
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  • pequettepequette Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31637Members, Constellation
    when going into egg mode just be sure it have anoter alien around that can protect u so my vote is no

    yes to egg on top of hive
    yes to increase defence in egg if in your previous form u had increase armor ( carapace )
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  • Batabusa2Batabusa2 Join Date: 2009-05-28 Member: 67507Members
    No, an egg is not consious and should not be able to think or act.
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  • SlaughtSlaught Join Date: 2005-02-12 Member: 40780Members
    edited June 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1709395:date=Jun 2 2009, 02:59 AM:name=Batabusa2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Batabusa2 @ Jun 2 2009, 02:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1709395"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No, an egg is not consious and should not be able to think or act.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Maybe alien eggs are (conscious that is) <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • mottocusmottocus Join Date: 2009-06-02 Member: 67636Members
    edited June 2009
    i agree with the whole unconsious while gestating thing... but that wouldnt stop gorges dragging eggs to safety ;-)
    sorta like ants in a hive protecting the larve.... seems like a fitting task for gorgies <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • glimmermanglimmerman Join Date: 2004-04-29 Member: 28300Members, Constellation
    Can't say I agree with this idea....
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  • VeonVeon Join Date: 2009-05-31 Member: 67578Members
    And out of the canceled egg springs... a hideously unfinished alien that can only lay on the floor and wheeze.


    No, choosing safe gestation spots is part of the tactic.
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  • RobBRobB ＴＵＢＥＳ ＯＦ ＴＨＥ ＩＮＴＥＲＷＥＢ Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Im for the Larvae Idea, clinging to a Wall or Ceiling... And if you fork up, your Onos falls to Death.
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  • SamaseSamase Join Date: 2009-05-31 Member: 67597Members
    I like the idea of the eggs hanging from the roof.
    Marines would be surprised when they walking slowly to the hive and an egg slowly creeps down towards their head.
    Eggheadshot!
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  • SlaughtSlaught Join Date: 2005-02-12 Member: 40780Members
    edited June 2009
    <!--QuoteBegin-Samase+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Samase)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I like the idea of the eggs hanging from the roof.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ye, that would make for some awesome visuals.
    But then again - you'd need JP to knife eggs <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />.

    Maybe during gestation you can upgrade a protective coating (carapace or maybe even cloaking) type thing in exchange for some extra res. So if you didn't have carapace before you start gestating, you don't have to kill yourself first? Or would it be totally unreasonable to queue your upgrades while gestating? Then you don't have to pop out, upgrade, pop out etc... Then these upgrades sortof dictate how protected your egg would be as well. For example: if you upgrade redemption you have a chance of being teleported to a safe hive, etc.
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  • SamaseSamase Join Date: 2009-05-31 Member: 67597Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1709523:date=Jun 2 2009, 03:32 PM:name=Slaught)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slaught @ Jun 2 2009, 03:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1709523"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ye, that would make for some awesome visuals.
    But then again - you'd need JP to knife eggs <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why would you knife the eggs? :/
    In NS2, you will maybe be able to throw your knife...or the Commander chair.
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  • RobBRobB ＴＵＢＥＳ ＯＦ ＴＨＥ ＩＮＴＥＲＷＥＢ Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19423Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1709562:date=Jun 2 2009, 05:17 PM:name=Samase)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Samase @ Jun 2 2009, 05:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1709562"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->...or the Commander chair.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I lol'd. But seriously, should an Onos be able to kick the Chair on the Marines? I think not.
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  • Sir_KSir_K Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12328Members
    Honestly, eggs shouldn't be able to be killed with a few bullets from a passing marine. Think about the Starcraft larvae at the hatcheries. They had like 5 HP, but 9000 armor, so each attack only did 1 damage, and it took a while to kill them. I like that idea - unless you have a flame thrower or something, eggs should be relatively protected from a single marine.
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  • M00_cowM00_cow Join Date: 2007-03-02 Member: 60180Members, Constellation
    Yeh. When you think of egg's in general, they have a hardened exterior. Doesn't make sense that a few bullets are able to penetrate their surface. I mean, the aliens are marines have been fighting for awhile now, and the game is called natural selection, so you think the hive would have started making stronger eggs by now <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

    P.s. the idea of upgrade queing while gestating is BRILLIANT!
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  • VmanVman Join Date: 2007-09-11 Member: 62251Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1709419:date=Jun 2 2009, 10:34 AM:name=mottocus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mottocus @ Jun 2 2009, 10:34 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1709419"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i agree with the whole unconsious while gestating thing... but that wouldnt stop gorges dragging eggs to safety ;-)
    sorta like ants in a hive protecting the larve.... seems like a fitting task for gorgies <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    or a pissed off gorge drags a onos egg into a marine base to get shot up x.x; It would have to be a way to allow/dissallow someone to move you <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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