Ns Hitting Other Mods

OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
<a href='http://www.custom-tfc.co.uk/index.php?section=comments&type=item&parent_id=1044' target='_blank'>http://www.custom-tfc.co.uk/index.php?sect...&parent_id=1044</a>

Pic in the link is self explanatory.. sposed to be for TFC

Comments

  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    are they allowed to just jack the models like that?
  • Mr_BeanMr_Bean Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7943Members
    If they released the source code into the public domain(The Natural Selection Team that is) then yes they can jack it and assundly things


    But if they did not then... NO
  • Teufel_EldritchTeufel_Eldritch Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 124Members
    Well whether or not they can legally do that..... I like those models better than the original TFC sg models, thats for sure.
  • FamFam Diaper-Wearing Dog On A Ball Join Date: 2002-02-17 Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    No, that does not seem to be legal. Im not 100% sure about the legal issues involved, but I cannot be bothered to pick up a book and investigate them. Not yet anyhow, its certainly something I may look into.
  • BergerBerger Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8945Members, Constellation
    Those look very nice. If I still played TFC, I might have to download them. *grin* But I don't.
  • NeverNever Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4555Members
    i dont know all the legal jazz, but at that site there are plenty of Quake models for use in TFC. donno if its the same principle or not though. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    but, at any rate, they do look good. i remember some time in early november when a team mate of mine said that those whould make great SG models. only took someone a month. lol.
  • FamFam Diaper-Wearing Dog On A Ball Join Date: 2002-02-17 Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Never+Nov 29 2002, 07:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Never @ Nov 29 2002, 07:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but, at any rate, they do look good. i remember some time in early november when a team mate of mine said that those whould make great SG models. only took someone a month. lol.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    One of my friends was bugging me all through the playtest to let him use the NS shotgun as his TFC engineer shotty model. And he wanted the turrets too. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NubiNubi Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8026Members
    Well they DID say it was from Natural Selection

    So I would think it's ok, it's like citing a paper, as long as the cite is there telling who the original creator is, it's fine and u won't get a 0 on it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • sojornsojorn Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6177Members
    This is from the FAQ on this site:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Can I use the NS textures, technology, game world, concept art or anything else for any purpose other then Natural Selection?
    No. The team has worked very hard to create the NS universe. Please don't e-mail or post asking to use our textures, models or technology for other projects. Any use of this stuff for purposes outside of supporting Natural Selection will be pursued aggressively.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    So, no. I don't think they're allowed to do this.
  • UhclemUhclem Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1336Members
    Then, it's simple, we attack him until they are removed...
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    Is it legal? No. Flayra owns the copyright on all found within Natural Selection, and I doubt he written permission was obtained for this project. It's falls under intellectual property rights. So Flayra has only to issue a cease & desist, and it'll be down.

    Be also understand that if Flayra did so, he might end up with a few nay-sayers, and more than a few comparisons to Fox. The author is crediting NS, and not trying to steal credit at all. It is a labor of love.

    From what little I've known of Flayra from these boards, Flayra is too much of a hippy <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> to rip it down. But be assured that he will still make sure that proper credit is documented.

    -Ryan!


    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
    -- George Bernard Shaw
  • SpotterSpotter Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5255Members
    I wouldn't mind if Flayra told them to stop it or remove it. If the team put the time and effort in it, they should have a right to claim it as theirs.
  • Uber_n00bUber_n00b Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9016Members
    Well I am glad that the Natural Selection was at least credited in terms of the game it came from.


    But I wouldn't frown upon the NS team for shutting that model down on Custom TFC because it is their work and they do hold copyright rightfully.
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Spotter+Nov 28 2002, 11:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spotter @ Nov 28 2002, 11:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I wouldn't mind if Flayra told them to stop it or remove it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I doubt anyone on the forums here would frown upon it. The NS team put work into their models and textures. This person gets the congratulations for porting it to TFC, with a minimum of work.

    But how would fans of TFC who happen to like a game of NS now and again feel? What of those TFC fans who may be introduced to NS this way?

    -Ryan!


    "<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=10054' target='_blank'>It's sometimes hard to see the other side of an argument.</a>"
    -- Me
  • PriNcE_oF_SpAcEPriNcE_oF_SpAcE Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3392Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nubi+Nov 29 2002, 03:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nubi @ Nov 29 2002, 03:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well they DID say it was from Natural Selection

    So I would think it's ok, it's like citing a paper, as long as the cite is there telling who the original creator is, it's fine and u won't get a 0 on it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    although it's good they mention where the models actually come from...mentioning where you got the material from, doesn't mean you haven't done a copyright infringement...to make legal use of other peoples copyrighted materials you <u>DO</u> need a written permision from the copyright holder, in this case Flayra and the rest of the NS team...
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