Tips

SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">for sieging hives.</div> Never and I mean Never let them know you are there.
Never Build around a corner or in the LOS of anyone in the Hive
Never attack before the siege cannon is completed
Only Defend.
Have everyone work on it, the sooner its done the better.
Avoid using parasited marines.
Covertness is Key...

With these basic and logical tips, you should be able to pull off a succesful Siege. Too many times to people, build in the line of sight of the hive, or start shooting things up before the siege is done. With the Alien HUD you can only see hive/teammates/friendlies underattack/parasited marines. So if they dont know your there, your on your way to a successful siege.

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  • VerdorbenVerdorben Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8121Members
    Also, build all of them up to nearly complete, then have your friends bring them online all at once.
  • MILKMILK Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8969Members
    lol all sieges at one time it would be very surprising for alien-beasts <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->)
  • V_MANV_MAN V-MAN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6217Members, Constellation
    edited November 2002
    Yes I agree build them all up until they are almost done then bring em all online at the same time
    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I do this all the time, using siege guns that is. My favourite thing to do is build fire bases just within range of 2 of the hives along with a phase portal and it's game over for the aliens <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I hardly ever fortify a hive room because there is no need if you have a few sieges parked withing range. It's the most cost effective method I have found of winning the game because it can be done right at the start before even HMGs or HA is researched.
  • EvildwarfEvildwarf Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2489Members
    All to true, but it can be hard with all those mindless grunts out there.
    The public servers are not really packed with hardcore khaara slayers <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    most of the players seems to be rambostyle noobs, some good european
    servers would be nice to see.
    Best would be if they are password protected <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Go passwords!
  • QuestionQuestion Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9180Members
    The trick is getting your marines NOT to engage the enemy...which is pratically impossible.
  • zodazoda Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7175Members
    great tips.

    always build it near hive's, siege cna only reach a certain distance.. There is ussually one or two resource nozzles near hive's, take one of these, get normal turrets up to protect it and siege...
  • Markeo900Markeo900 Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9041Members
    This tactic won't work against a alien team with brains. Skulks constantly spawn inside hive and you can hear the welding of marines building from miles away. If I saw that or any alien thats worth his two cents they'd would report it to the rest of the team immediately and you'd be attacked from several angles within 30 seconds against a good team.

    Maybe good for a pub full of new alien morons, but try this against a competant team on a passworded server or in a clan match and its not gonna happen.

    Best way to seige a hive is to run in, and shoot it to bits as fast as possible. Plan ahead and hive as many people HMGs and shottys as possible.
    With a whole team shooting, they go down pretty fast, tho of course some ppl are gonna be on door duty making sure you don't get attacked. you just have to walk in en-mass.

    You have no idea how hillarious it is to watch 2 or 3 lone marines attacking a hive with lmgs and watching as a full team of 8 fades / skulks responds to the hive being under attack.

    Its really not worth it like this, you just need as many people as possible in thier at once, not a small 2 or 3 man group.

    Unupgraded LMG does 10 dmg per shot and fires 10 rounds a second. 7 x 500dmg = 3500dmg in 5 seconds flat.
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited November 2002
    nah, You cant always hear it, especially if your attacking it through a wall.
  • REPTILEREPTILE Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9642Members
    1)<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Best way to seige a hive is to run in, and shoot it to bits as fast as possible. Plan ahead and hive as many people
      HMGs and shottys as possible.
      With a whole team shooting, they go down pretty fast, tho of course some ppl are gonna be on door duty making sure you  
      don't get attacked. you just have to walk in en-mass.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    if you play against a good team they will have build some defense in order to protect the hive
    and when you attack the intire team will come to crush you how long do you think you can last
    if the aliens are attacking from everywere? plus they will respone into your face!!!!!

    2)<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This tactic won't work against a alien team with brains. Skulks constantly spawn inside hive and you can hear the  
      welding of marines building from miles away. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    the most of the aliens dont whait too here if someone is building outside their hive when they
    respone they run to get at the place they were before
  • Mr_BeanMr_Bean Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7943Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->nah, You cant always hear it, especially if your attacking it through a wall.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Exactly, The little Vents in Bast being the prime example there are four vents where you CAN NOT hear anything being built plus of course the sucidal builders in Feedwater(By that I mean send two marines with Jetpacks or spamm em heath through the Water way from Refinery side, Now build a Phase gate ON one of the marines so it will be stablised by him, now then as they are building and deing from drowning you build a TF on the second marines who builds till he dies as well, come back through phase gate as nessary, now upgrade the porter, send one brave sole back through and build the seige on him, One Hive coming up dead

    Now send your HA and HMG Marines up out of the water for the ultame suprise attack, just have them stand next to the hive to make sure they are protected from Skulk attacks
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