Frame rates

supersonicdarkysupersonicdarky Join Date: 2007-08-18 Member: 61926Members, Constellation
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How many frames <i>should</i> I get on an 8800gt + amd athlon 64 x2 @ 2.8ghz? Mostly it maxes out at 71 (as I assumed is the limit) but often drops to 50 and sometimes even to 20. Oh, and the most important thing I forgot to mention - I play under linux w/ wine @ 1680x1050 and opengl.
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  • BlackHawkBlackHawk Join Date: 2008-06-17 Member: 64467Members
    As of late a lot of ppl are complaining that frame rates drop in certain parts of maps for no obvious reason. I am no sure if this is related but after getting a update from steam garry's mod is very hard to work with and I wonder if this same update may have messed up NS in some way or Form.

    -Someone plz tell me if what I think is right or if I'am speaking out of my @$$.
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  • Voodo_HUNVoodo_HUN Join Date: 2006-11-29 Member: 58773Members
    dunno but im getting fps drops also (mainly on metal, in the lower hive)

    to increase ur fps from 71, tyle into console: fps_max 100
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  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1683539:date=Jul 15 2008, 08:27 PM:name=BlackHawk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BlackHawk @ Jul 15 2008, 08:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1683539"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As of late a lot of ppl are complaining that frame rates drop in certain parts of maps for no obvious reason. I am no sure if this is related but after getting a update from steam garry's mod is very hard to work with and I wonder if this same update may have messed up NS in some way or Form.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I doubt it because the two a different engines. It's possible some change to the steam friends system(since it will "overlay" onto the screen) could do it though.
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  • PrefixPrefix Éirinn go Brách Join Date: 2006-12-31 Member: 59353Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1683531:date=Jul 16 2008, 12:11 AM:name=supersonicdarky)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(supersonicdarky @ Jul 16 2008, 12:11 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1683531"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I play under linux w/ wine @ 1680x1050 and opengl.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I have the same cpu specs as you but I have a 7600GS, and play under wine.

    I get the same fps as you, with the same mentioned fps drops, which is interesting considering I have a inferior graphics card.


    It is clearly wines fault, but just wanted to mention I get the same fps with a 7600 through wine.
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  • MigeMige Join Date: 2005-03-19 Member: 45796Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=1683531:date=Jul 15 2008, 06:11 PM:name=supersonicdarky)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(supersonicdarky @ Jul 15 2008, 06:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1683531"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How many frames <i>should</i> I get on an 8800gt + amd athlon 64 x2 @ 2.8ghz? Mostly it maxes out at 71 (as I assumed is the limit) but often drops to 50 and sometimes even to 20. Oh, and the most important thing I forgot to mention - I play under linux w/ wine @ 1680x1050 and opengl.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nvidia dx10 card is the problem. I did have 8800 320 and 8800gt and my old x1900xt was twice better than these nvidias ######s. My solution was get ati dx10 cards and they work just fine. Tested 2900pro and 3870.
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  • MigeMige Join Date: 2005-03-19 Member: 45796Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=1683539:date=Jul 15 2008, 07:27 PM:name=BlackHawk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BlackHawk @ Jul 15 2008, 07:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1683539"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As of late a lot of ppl are complaining that frame rates drop in certain parts of maps for no obvious reason. I am no sure if this is related but after getting a update from steam garry's mod is very hard to work with and I wonder if this same update may have messed up NS in some way or Form.

    -Someone plz tell me if what I think is right or if I'am speaking out of my @$$.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ati dx10 cards do this like co_daimos pg rooms and co_umbra hive or ns_metal surfice hive. And pg lights. But not under 100fps. 8800gt and 10+ people same room and fps can be 50.. Pretty ######ty situation.
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  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    aw... ati actually besting nvidia?

    and just after I got me a 8800.
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  • FraxinusFraxinus Join Date: 2008-03-02 Member: 63783Members, Constellation
    I usually get 100fps around the board (30 on loading screens). Make sure you have fps max 300 enabled in console.
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  • airyKairyK Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11126Members
    sounds like a triple buffering problem. If you have vsync on, enable triple buffering and type fps_max "100" in the console. With out triple buffering on and vsync enabled it will half your FPS if you cannot achieve exactly the top amount of fps fps_max is set to. The easiest fix is to just run with out vysnc enabled, the most logicial choice but the tearing will be terrible. You'll have to learn to deal with it if you go that route.
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  • tekproxytekproxy Join Date: 2005-03-11 Member: 44813Members, Constellation
    The ~71 fps max you mentioned is typical of Wine. The frame rate drops are very likely Wine's fault and nothing else.

    What command are you using to start the game?

    Do you have the newest version of your drivers and Wine?

    I'm guessing you use Ubuntu. Are you using Compiz? Some people have reported that it will slow down the game. Imagine that!

    To hide debugging messages, which should slightly improve performance, use this with the command to start half-life: <b>WINEDEBUG=-all wine hl</b>

    These are some changes you can make to your config (<i>$HOME/.wine/config</i>), if they're not already made. Be sure and back up your config before you do this, and restore the original if it does not help.:
    <!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1-->"Managed" = "N"                 ; a significant change
    "UseXVidMode" = "N"
    "UseXRandR" = "N"           ; a significant change
    "DXGrab" = "Y"
    "Synchronous" = "Y"           ; without this mouse reacts VERY slowly
    "windows" = "nt40"<!--c2--></div><!--ec2-->

    Last, but not least, consider not using such a beastly resolution. Wine isn't "teh sex" yet, so forgive it by doing something more plebian: 1024x768, for starters.

    Oh and 71 fps is unbearable if you want to domin8. Consider duel booting if all else fail. GOOD LUCK.
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  • PrefixPrefix Éirinn go Brách Join Date: 2006-12-31 Member: 59353Members, Constellation
    do the latest versions 0of wine still have that config file? I can't find it in my ~/.wine
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  • tekproxytekproxy Join Date: 2005-03-11 Member: 44813Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1686221:date=Aug 19 2008, 07:11 AM:name=Prefix)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Prefix @ Aug 19 2008, 07:11 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1686221"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->do the latest versions 0of wine still have that config file? I can't find it in my ~/.wine<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You're right. Thanks for pointing that out. They changed that a few years ago. Now there's the command <i>/usr/local/bin/winecfg</i> and settings in the registry. Not sure how to translate them because I don't have my dual boot setup anymore.
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