My latest artistic venture

moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
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It's entitled "Sin."
I'll explain more about it later, but I stayed up all night last night making it for a show today so I'm dead tired and off to bed. In the meantime, enjoy!
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/ryanmoulton/Portfolio/photo#5178272514632650594" target="_blank"><img src="http://lh4.google.com/ryanmoulton/R9zrapjZD2I/AAAAAAAAI-U/Ji3ategMZis/s400/IMG_0382.JPG" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
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I look gimpy in this picture, but this will give you the scale, and show it at it's actual contrast ratio.
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/ryanmoulton/VillaArtShow/photo#5178272484567879506" target="_blank"><img src="http://lh5.google.com/ryanmoulton/R9zrY5jZD1I/AAAAAAAAI-I/vkqxeBMYiu8/s400/IMG_0420.JPG" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
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  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    Why can the scripture (math formulas) be read on the apple peel AND on the peeled apple?
    Is there a symbolic reason behind this or is it just flawed logic?
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    The inside of the peel has the same imprints as the apple 'meat'.
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    <!--quoteo(post=1673392:date=Mar 16 2008, 09:48 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Align @ Mar 16 2008, 09:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1673392"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The inside of the peel has the same imprints as the apple 'meat'.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No, it doesn't.

    The inside of the peel is various quotes from scripture, the apple flesh is covered in in the writings of science. The name of the picture, "Sin", intones that the picture represents humanity peeling away religious influence and uncovering the world though science, rather than dogma.

    Additionally there's possibly a symbolic link between the Adam and Eve apple, and this apple.

    I'm not usually one to enjoy art in this form. Classical music, I love, but art generally doesn't do anything for me. This, on the other hand, is pretty damn awesome.

    --Scythe--
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    But the peel is the part with all the nutrients <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
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  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    Kudos.

    Might it be possible to get a (high detail) scan for wallpaper usage?
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  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    You are all fools. The apple clearly symbolizes the war in Iraq.

    You are all shallow and pedantic.




    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" /> very nice piece of art there. Beautiful. I won't interpret it, I just like the way it looks <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • Corporal_FortierCorporal_Fortier Join Date: 2005-03-22 Member: 46079Members, Constellation
    Nice work there Moultano!
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  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    It's kinda strange, cause the more I look at it, the more I like it. Are you selling prints?
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  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    I like it. My only gripe is that the guy looks like he is about to cut off his left thumb. His right thumb should be pressing the apple into the knife. The way your guy is doing it is he's using his entire right arm muscle to cut the apple, a dangerous and impractical choice.

    If you don't quite understand what Im saying I can supply a picture or something.
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1673401:date=Mar 16 2008, 09:43 AM:name=Abra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Abra @ Mar 16 2008, 09:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1673401"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You are all fools. The apple clearly symbolizes the war in Iraq.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I thought it was feminism, as the wiminz are shedding the skin of the oppressive man! God damn I hate symbolism.

    Neat picture.
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  • ShzarShzar Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21098Members, Constellation
    The way the peel hangs over the arm suggested to me a snake, which enhances the biblical symbolism. Very neat bit of art, there. Nice work!
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1673394:date=Mar 16 2008, 07:27 AM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Mar 16 2008, 07:27 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1673394"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No, it doesn't.

    The inside of the peel is various quotes from scripture, the apple flesh is covered in in the writings of science. The name of the picture, "Sin", intones that the picture represents humanity peeling away religious influence and uncovering the world though science, rather than dogma.

    Additionally there's possibly a symbolic link between the Adam and Eve apple, and this apple.

    I'm not usually one to enjoy art in this form. Classical music, I love, but art generally doesn't do anything for me. This, on the other hand, is pretty damn awesome.

    --Scythe--<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Scythe you're a dummy. That's not religion, that's just going from the beginning of writing to the present. It starts out with cave drawings and cuneiform, then it moves up through Egyptian and Hebrew and Sanskrit and Greek and whatever. Unless that snippet of German is religious stuff, you're WRONG like a Scientologist. I think it's the march from the past to the future.
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  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1673415:date=Mar 16 2008, 12:52 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Mar 16 2008, 12:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1673415"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Scythe you're a dummy. That's not religion, that's just going from the beginning of writing to the present. It starts out with cave drawings and cuneiform, then it moves up through Egyptian and Hebrew and Sanskrit and Greek and whatever. Unless that snippet of German is religious stuff, you're WRONG like a Scientologist. I think it's the march from the past to the future.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So why does the present consist of DNA code? That's not a new invention.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    DNA itself is not a new invention; the coding is. Describing the protein sequences with letters the way we do is a result of modern science. You can't equate the modern description of something with the ancient origins; if I wrote a scientific about the creation of the universe, it would be considered modern, not ancient, and would go on the apple instead of on the very beginning of the peel.
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Its beautiful, and frankly, if I had the cash, I'd want to buy a print ASAP. Don't see pieces like that, that force you to think so easily.

    Bravo.
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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    edited March 2008
    I like the relationships. Each character has his own story. The puppy is a bit too much, but you have to overlook that.

    The way he's holding her, it's almost... filthy. He's about to kiss her and she's pulling away...

    The way his leg is smashed up against her... look how he's painted the blouse, sort of translucent, you can make out her breast, and it's sort of touching him... it's really pretty torrid, don't you think?

    And of course you have the onlookers peeking out like they're all shocked. They wish.

    I must admit, when I see a painting like this, I get emotionally... erect.

    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>sorry, whenever I think of art criticism, I get reminded of a certain scene from my favorite movie. awesome sketch. allow me to be the first to point out the coil of apple skin is somewhat ophidian... (edit: looks like I'm not even the first one to point that out -_- I have nothing constructive to add here.)</span>
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  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    edited March 2008
    Thanks for the kind words. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> I've gotten enough requests for prints that I'm going to try to set something up with cafepress. I'm having trouble finding a way to get a high quality scan of it. kinkos is a bunch of incompetents, and they nearly ruined the drawing with what they were trying to do. I've tried photographing it and stitching it together. Below is the result which will probably work for wallpapers.
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/ryanmoulton/Portfolio/photo#5178613711129612226" target="_blank"><img src="http://lh3.google.com/ryanmoulton/R94hu5jZD8I/AAAAAAAAJEo/dl2r2wVwl4A/s288/test-cropped.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>

    <!--quoteo(post=1673414:date=Mar 16 2008, 02:39 PM:name=Shzar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shzar @ Mar 16 2008, 02:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1673414"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The way the peel hangs over the arm suggested to me a snake, which enhances the biblical symbolism. Very neat bit of art, there. Nice work!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--quoteo(post=1673415:date=Mar 16 2008, 02:52 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Mar 16 2008, 02:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1673415"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Scythe you're a dummy. That's not religion, that's just going from the beginning of writing to the present. It starts out with cave drawings and cuneiform, then it moves up through Egyptian and Hebrew and Sanskrit and Greek and whatever. Unless that snippet of German is religious stuff, you're WRONG like a Scientologist. I think it's the march from the past to the future.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Spot on. (except for the part about scythe being a dummy. Though I was really only putting the works in chronological order, I did find that all the recent works I'd picked were scientific, and did make the division between peel and apple between them to elevate the scientific works a bit. I didn't mean to imply that the more "humanities" related texts were to be discarded with the peel or anything like that. It's not all religious, there's plenty of epic poetry, and other things mixed in. I'm going to do a blog post about it shortly in which I'll source everything. In the meantime, props to whoever can identify the works. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> )

    Basically the idea for the piece was brought on my the prompt for my friend's art show, which was a quote from paradise lost. One of the things that has always bothered me about the biblical creation story as an allegory is that it portrays knowledge as being evil and against god, so I wanted to respond to that.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1673394:date=Mar 16 2008, 01:27 PM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Mar 16 2008, 01:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1673394"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The inside of the peel is various quotes from scripture, the apple flesh is covered in in the writings of science.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ah hey, you're right; couldn't tell from the thumbnails.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1673448:date=Mar 17 2008, 07:09 AM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Align @ Mar 17 2008, 07:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1673448"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ah hey, you're right; couldn't tell from the thumbnails.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He's WRONG! It's not scripture at all!

    I'm just gloating over Scythe. It's a thing I do.
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  • La ChupacabraLa Chupacabra Join Date: 2008-02-25 Member: 63729Members
    It's just amazing. It really is.


    I thought about it exactly the same as Scythe interpreted it, although it's not completely what moultano had in mind. I've made a negative of it (the writings look like glowing on the apple, rather than being written on it as in the original, what I find quite neat) and put it as my wallpaper. It's gonna stay there for looong time.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1673453:date=Mar 17 2008, 03:47 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Mar 17 2008, 03:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1673453"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->He's WRONG! It's not scripture at all!

    I'm just gloating over Scythe. It's a thing I do.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, yes, but the texts are different.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1673508:date=Mar 18 2008, 06:00 AM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Align @ Mar 18 2008, 06:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1673508"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes, yes, but the texts are different.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Aye, but anyone looking at it closely could figure that one out. Just takes a little bit of time.
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  • CataclyzmCataclyzm Join Date: 2005-01-06 Member: 33031Members
    Amazing piece. I really can't say anything more than what everyone else said.

    <!--quoteo(post=1673442:date=Mar 17 2008, 02:54 AM:name=moultano)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(moultano @ Mar 17 2008, 02:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1673442"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->One of the things that has always bothered me about the biblical creation story as an allegory is that it portrays knowledge as being evil and against god, so I wanted to respond to that.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I guess many people would think that just looking at the creation story. But, if you look at the Bible as a whole, wisdom and knowledge is praised as a good thing. For example, the entire book of Proverbs explains the value of wisdom. Just a thought.
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