The Golden Compass

XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
<div class="IPBDescription">The movie?!</div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58X4o_41Frc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58X4o_41Frc</a>

Im not one for posting threads based around a youtube video, but ish man!

These are probably some of my favorite books of all time, I had no idea they were making them into movies though!

Cast looks pretty good to me, Im excited. What I wonder though, will they leave <i>everything</i> in, if you've read all the books you know what I mean. There's alot (ALOT) of content that I don't think "Christian" America would approve of.

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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    yah, my GF just bought me the set for my birthday and told me I have to read em before the holliday season so we can go see the movies <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Meh, the books were a little sappy for me. I'm looking forward to some neat special effects in the movies though. A lot of times in the book I was reading it and wondering how I'd do it in a movie.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    Well Eva Green is in it, so I already have a boner.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1619861:date=Apr 9 2007, 06:56 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Apr 9 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]1619861[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Meh, the books were a <b>little sappy</b> for me. I'm looking forward to some neat special effects in the movies though. A lot of times in the book I was reading it and wondering how I'd do it in a movie.
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    What's it like?


    <i>being a soulless heathen?</i>
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1619875:date=Apr 9 2007, 05:16 PM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Apr 9 2007, 05:16 PM) [snapback]1619875[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    What's it like?
    <i>being a soulless heathen?</i>
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    Pretty good. It's tough to hurt my feelings and genocide doesn't bother me as much as it should. Other than that, I'm just like any other Vulcan or positronic android who cannot experience emotions.

    I mean humans. I'm just like other humans.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    My first thought was "WTH is "The Golden Compass"?"

    So I found out that is, what I assume to be, the American name of the book.

    In conclusion:

    I can't wait.
  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1619892:date=Apr 9 2007, 09:29 PM:name=Jimmeh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jimmeh @ Apr 9 2007, 09:29 PM) [snapback]1619892[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    My first thought was "WTH is "The Golden Compass"?"

    So I found out that is, what I assume to be, the American name of the book.

    In conclusion:

    I can't wait.
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    Yea - It's NORTHERN LIGHTS people! I've only read the first one, and I didn't know that it was a trilogy so I thought the ending was a bit abrupt. Now I know why - and I have to read the others since I recall enjoying the first. I did a bunch of sketches of the armoured bears.

    Is this movie about ALL 3 books or just the first? It'd be pretty condensed if it was all 3 - (aka it would suck)
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1619912:date=Apr 9 2007, 10:22 PM:name=enf0rcer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(enf0rcer @ Apr 9 2007, 10:22 PM) [snapback]1619912[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Yea - It's NORTHERN LIGHTS people! I've only read the first one, and I didn't know that it was a trilogy so I thought the ending was a bit abrupt. Now I know why - and I have to read the others since I recall enjoying the first. I did a bunch of sketches of the armoured bears.

    Is this movie about ALL 3 books or just the first? It'd be pretty condensed if it was all 3 - (aka it would suck)
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    Oh come on, "The Golden Compass" is a more descriptive name.

    Anyway, It's only the first one in this film. And yes, you should definetly read the other 2, they are damned good.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1619912:date=Apr 10 2007, 03:22 AM:name=enf0rcer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(enf0rcer @ Apr 10 2007, 03:22 AM) [snapback]1619912[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is this movie about ALL 3 books or just the first? It'd be pretty condensed if it was all 3 - (aka it would suck)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    First one, according to IMDB, "The Subtle Knife" is due out 2009.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1619915:date=Apr 9 2007, 10:25 PM:name=Jimmeh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jimmeh @ Apr 9 2007, 10:25 PM) [snapback]1619915[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    First one, according to IMDB, "The Subtle Knife" is due out 2009.
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    Subtle knife was the second book though...
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    edited April 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1619917:date=Apr 10 2007, 03:27 AM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Apr 10 2007, 03:27 AM) [snapback]1619917[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Subtle knife was the second book though...
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    Exactly? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />

    Maybe my original post wasn't clear enough:

    This movie is based upon the first book, "The Northern Lights". I gathered this information through IMDB, as apparently, there is a movie based on the second book, "The Subtle Knife", coming out in 2009.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1619918:date=Apr 9 2007, 10:33 PM:name=Jimmeh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jimmeh @ Apr 9 2007, 10:33 PM) [snapback]1619918[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Exactly? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
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    I has good reading comprehensions.
  • HydraHydra Join Date: 2003-06-14 Member: 17366Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    All I can say is, they better not rape my childhood memories ;_;.
  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    edited April 2007
    I think the first two books are brilliant but i lost interest early on the third book. I think these sort of stories suffer a bit cause the authors gets so embroiled in their own world and feel they must describe everything in minute detail as they go along (like having a bestiary for every race of being as its introduced) rather than leaving a few things to your imagination. Its like they are writing it with the intention of it being made into a film ^^
  • MerkabaMerkaba Digital Harmony Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 22Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    edited April 2007
    In my op, 'Northern Lights' is a much better title for a book than 'The Golden Compass' - I mean, the althiometer isn't even a compass, its an althiometer! It is perhaps described a handful of the times in the book as 'resembling a golden compass' but....gah. Why do American releases so often have name changes; its like the publishers don't think the public will 'get' it if they don't change the name of something vaguely abstract to something simple and digestable. EG Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone -> Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.

    Anyway, it's a fantastic series and I look forward to seeing it on the big screen; I hope it's done justice, but I am not reserving high hopes.

    What I love about the books is that it starts off fairly small, with a some conspiracy of kidnapped children, and then gets bigger delving into scientific theory, and finally in the third book gets even huger delving into religeous theory. It'll be interesting to find out what happens in the third movie (I assume this is a trilogy as the footage shown looked like it was entirely from the 1st book), as there is content in the third book that has potential to make Christian communities somewhat antsy.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1620323:date=Apr 11 2007, 12:59 PM:name=Merkaba)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Merkaba @ Apr 11 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]1620323[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    as there is content in the third book that has potential to make Christian communities somewhat antsy.
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    Sounds like you seem to be describing 99% of popular culture. Yeah we'll have to see how that works out.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1620323:date=Apr 11 2007, 03:59 PM:name=Merkaba)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Merkaba @ Apr 11 2007, 03:59 PM) [snapback]1620323[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    In my op, 'Northern Lights' is a much better title for a book than 'The Golden Compass' - I mean, the althiometer isn't even a compass, its an althiometer! It is perhaps described a handful of the times in the book as 'resembling a golden compass' but....gah. Why do American releases so often have name changes; its like the publishers don't think the public will 'get' it if they don't change the name of something vaguely abstract to something simple and digestable. EG Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone -> Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.
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    But by naming it "The Golden Compass" then you can use the same naming pattern and theme for the others. "Subtle knife" "Amber Spyglass" etc. Besides, it's more descriptive of what the books about and is more... interesting I guess.

    The Harry Potter thing just had to do with that fact that most people here wouldn't understand the "Philosophers Stone" reference. And damn, if a simple name change can make more people read the book, then why the hell not change it?
  • MerkabaMerkaba Digital Harmony Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 22Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1620360:date=Apr 11 2007, 11:04 PM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Apr 11 2007, 11:04 PM) [snapback]1620360[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    But by naming it "The Golden Compass" then you can use the same naming pattern and theme for the others. "Subtle knife" "Amber Spyglass" etc. Besides, it's more descriptive of what the books about and is more... interesting I guess.

    The Harry Potter thing just had to do with that fact that most people here wouldn't understand the "Philosophers Stone" reference. And damn, if a simple name change can make more people read the book, then why the hell not change it? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I am in complete opposition to this opinion! Have at ye!

    and for the record, I didn't know what the philosopher's stone was when I first bought the book (except in the psychedelic mushroom meaning of the word). Why would I? I was expecting the book to <i>explain</i> what it is <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> And 'Northern Lights' is more interesting than 'The Golden Compass'!
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    edited December 2007
    I saw this on Saturday at what I guess was a preview showing or something. If you were a fan of the book, you will probably be disappointed. They try to squeeze too much in and the result isn't too successful an adaptation. It's kind of jumbled, they take a lot of liberties with the plot, and they miss the 'soul' of the book(s), imo, and just try to capitalize on the 'coolness' of witches and airships and such. I'll be curious what the reviews say... (edit: looks like there are reviews up already and they pretty much agree with me) =p
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1663067:date=Dec 6 2007, 10:27 AM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DiscoZombie @ Dec 6 2007, 10:27 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1663067"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I saw this on Saturday at what I guess was a preview showing or something. If you were a fan of the book, you will probably be disappointed. They try to squeeze too much in and the result isn't too successful an adaptation. It's kind of jumbled, they take a lot of liberties with the plot, and they miss the 'soul' of the book(s), imo, and just try to capitalize on the 'coolness' of witches and airships and such. I'll be curious what the reviews say...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ah well, I kinda expected this.

    I will probably end up seeing it any way
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I found it was a great movie, and stayed pretty true to the books. They just didnt put things in, and by things I mean a great deal of things, things that needed to be their to explain why the hell things were happening. If those bits had been there, this would have been a fantastic movie.

    Best example is the Witches <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>quick visit to Lara, then a quick view of them going to war, then they are fighting for the good guys, all without any real explination....</span>
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    I think I'm gonna read the books before watching the films. I do have a copy of Northern Lights somewhere, but since I was given it by a grandparent, and since the author was described as a 'children's novelist' I assumed it was a kid's book.

    P.S. You don't need to scold me, some of my friends already put me in place when I told them that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    Bad movie. Good production values but lousy plot and hugely stereotyped characters..
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1663170:date=Dec 7 2007, 06:50 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crispy @ Dec 7 2007, 06:50 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1663170"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think I'm gonna read the books before watching the films. I do have a copy of Northern Lights somewhere, but since I was given it by a grandparent, and since the author was described as a 'children's novelist' I assumed it was a kid's book.

    P.S. You don't need to scold me, some of my friends already put me in place when I told them that. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I found the book in the 'young adults' section of barnes and noble, targeted at 7 year olds. little did I know there were decapitations and gore and manipulation and loss and very big words every which way.
  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    Jsut re-read the whole trilogy a month back.

    I cant keep wondering how they will make the second and third movie working as the first already misses the main idea and the spirit the book with-held.

    Also how the hell they are going to make the scene in botanica has such seismic impact as it does in the last book.
    Im still happy the movies are made. Some1 might actually read the books and find the multi-layered trilogy that is so brilliant in all ways.
  • Awesome_LocksAwesome_Locks Join Date: 2007-10-22 Member: 62705Members
    I thought the movie was pretty good. Still haven't read the books though, probably do that over Christmas break =\
  • RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
    edited December 2007
    Went to watch this yesterday.

    Flying witches (with BOW AND ARROW) and talking bears in armor aren't my thing.
  • SkyrageSkyrage Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20249Members
    Never knew about the books to be honest. Am gonna try and hunt'em down I suppose.
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