New Evil Tactic To Look Out For...

LOTUK · November 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">The kharaa will fall...</div> I have discovered a neat little trick that I'm sure will be used from now on, on the map Nancy. This will be classified as a bustard tactic and will no doubt spark complaints in these very forums. But anyway, keep a look out for a new and painful way of the marines getting the edge on the kharaa.

This is not a foolproof tactic though as you will find out once it starts being used. + as I sit here typing up this post I am being told to mention RogerDodger for being in the game that led to this discovery.

Cya in the game, and btw, if your playing as the marines and some guy named LOTUK (me) askes for temporary control of the command console...let him work his magic. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Demerzel · November 2002

yeah. keep taking that medication okay?

Urge_to_Kill_Rising · November 2002

So what exactly is this evil tactic?

ogz · November 2002

if its a map abuse (as in exploiting a bug in the map) it should be posted so that it can get fixed.

if its just a map specific tactic, with a map specific counter, then thats ok

ShingyBoy · November 2002

Ur not exactly gonna post the tactic? wots the point in posting

Blood_God · November 2002

/me sets up teh sg's and gets his gun ready...

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='siege.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='siege.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

/me prepares for teh 1337 tactic <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Bytor · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (LOTUK @ Nov 27 2002, 10:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Cya in the game, and btw, if your playing as the marines and some guy named LOTUK (me) askes for temporary control of the command console...let him work his magic.
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I think not.

Draxo · November 2002

umm, if you ahve discovered a bug in a map, you really should post it so the developers can fix it... not exploit it for game rating

FunkTheMonk · November 2002

Actually he shouldnt post it, he should send it to the devs directly. coz if its posted here some twat is gonna go 'WOW! thats a really good idea, im gonna do that before they stop it just so i can win! w00t w00t!!'

LOTUK · November 2002

But can't I have a little fun with it first? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'>

bitnine · November 2002

I'm going to make a wild guess. There's a way to make the CC appear above the ceiling on the bridge of nancy, effectively making it invincible against alien attack. We saw a comm try this to prolong the game once. He was up there in the CC, above the ceiling, with a welder for if the CC got hurt. I evolved to gorge and whittled it away with healing spray, killing him when he came out.

LOTUK · November 2002

Yeah that's pretty much it. Good guess. But I was talking about putting the turret factory on the 2 or 3 antenas pointing out so that claw attackes wont hurt it and kharaa rushes would not be as successful as their first targets (the turret factories) would not be possible to get to. Works well and is most effective at stopping the start of game rush. But a CC out there is useless as if you have to worry about that being destroyed then you might as well quit NE way cause if the CC is under attack, you can bet that the base has already been destroyed.

NEway, I was impressed when I found it...I guess I'll have to look for something more original. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'>

Bytor · November 2002

You shouldn't be impressed by cheating. Exploiting game bugs is cheating, and cheaters suck.

CForrester · November 2002

If I ever encounter you on a server I'm on and I see you exploit this, I'm going to get screenshots, a demo and I'm going to report you to the admin.

Rhone · November 2002

Guess thats the new things nowadays. Cheating == 1337 == No Honor

Mindmeldme · November 2002

good point rhone. i like your sig to. good call

FlatlineUTD · November 2002

I can't stand people like this. This is the third time I've seen an "OMG! I HVAE a sooper l337 HAX0R thta will get teh pOw3rup 4nd w1n teh g4m3!"

An exploit is an exploit. Report it to the devs, don't talk about how cool it is here.

Misfire · November 2002

i have known about this a long time ago. Sovietdictator was the one to discover!.

The cc is still vulnerable, just use skul bite thru the wall, it works.

Twex · November 2002

I suggest we conduct a merciless Inquisition to find out who of you knew about his demonic exploit without reporting it, having the audacity to have some fun beforehand. Then, all these sinners must BURN! BURN I SAY!

Pugsley · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Guess thats the new things nowadays. Cheating == 1337 == No Honor </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
As painful as that is, its been like that for ages, a cheater will always win against an honest player, and all the cheater cares about is winning so hes happy.

bitnine · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (LOTUK @ Nov 27 2002, 11:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Yeah that's pretty much it. Good guess.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I wish it weren't correct. I really wish that you had some amazing legitimate tactic that you liked to use on a given map, instead of swelling with pride at the use of an exploit. But my faith in the online community has been greatly eroded, and not without cause. I perhaps take my greatest pleasure in defeating those who use exploits and cheats with pure skill. But it's something I'm willing to trade for a quick ban. And that's what I hope you see on any server you try to exploit like that.

Ah, well, perhaps I'll eventually resort to finding a Natural Selection server on my campus where I know most people who play and know there's a dedicated admin staff there to remove scum like... well, yourself. That's pretty much the only type of server I play on for CS.

LOTUK · November 2002

OK, first let me just say that the great thing about this exploit was that the turret factory could be built out of harms way for when the dreaded kharaa rush came through. I know it's still wrong and it is in the bug report (I'm not a complete **obscenity**). But I know what u guys mean about the cheating and exploiting to ruin the game so I'm sorry if this exploit is used and I promise I won't use it online. But as I said it is in the bug report waiting for the moderator to pass it. (btw I am not a cheater and never have been online as I also believe that cheating ruins games)
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='siege.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'>

KaMiKaZe1 · November 2002

If I saw some one do this I would eat there babies, **obscenity** them out, and make them eat the remains of their babies that I shitted out. Seriosuly though, a good commander with a competent team is an easy win on Nancy. Maybe not easy, but 75% anyways.

Marine0I · November 2002

Look - he has apologised, made his explaination and very probably wont do it again, so lets just get over and on with it

Ezekiel · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KaMiKaZe!!! @ Nov 28 2002, 02:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>If I saw some one do this I would eat there babies, **obscenity** them out, and make them eat the remains of their babies that I shitted out.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
*expletive deleted* *expletive deleted*

i love those two

Aaron · November 2002

Waitaminute. Before there is a lynching...how exactly is this cheating? There are lots of valid, but strange places to build stuff. It might be a bug, and if so the map author needs to fix it. Otherwise people need to chill.

Tazol · November 2002

It's not cheating as it is exploiting. You shouldn't be able to place a huge turret factory on a small pole. :/

Katsuro · November 2002

I'm gonna carry out an inquisition to find out all of you F***brained-A**loving-S***smokers who talk about HONOR in a VIDEO GAME and shove your computers up your a**.

Ok rant over, but it pisses me off no end when people talk about honor in video games. What a joke.

bitnine · November 2002

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aaron @ Nov 27 2002, 09:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Waitaminute. Before there is a lynching...how exactly is this cheating? There are lots of valid, but strange places to build stuff. It might be a bug, and if so the map author needs to fix it. Otherwise people need to chill.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Building structures so that they appear outside the map's bounds is an exploit. You are not supposed to build structures out in space where no one can reach them.

Lindstrom · November 2002

There has got to be some level of respect for your fellow players, and when you use an exploit like that it just cheapens everything. Just because a exploit hasn't been found a fixed by the dev. doesn't mean its a legit. tactic.

Terr · November 2002

There's also an exploit availible like that on Hera. Hopefully it will get fixed soon.

'use' goes through walls, seemingly.

New Evil Tactic To Look Out For...

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