VAC Ban

BonesX · August 2007

Ok, Stupid question. If I start playing around with scripts how likely am i to get stung by Steam VAC bans for hacking. I have seen people snagged for speed hacks on my clan servers and thought I would check. In particular jump and pistol scripts.

just wondering and Thanks in advance!

Johnie · August 2007

VAC checks for external programs. A script is just an advanced bind, which is used internally in NS.
That said, the obvious conclusion is: There is no chance.

Thansal · August 2007

now, if you were talking about playing around with CHEATS, then just make sure that VAC is not enabled on your server.

or even just run a listen server.

BonesX · August 2007

Thanks for the quick response. i did not mean cheats... i would expect them to be caught by VAC. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />

I didnt expect VAC to care about the binds but had several people ask for un-ban on my server that were regulars that were snagged by VAC during one of it's periodic updates. I'm going to assume that they were caught by error due to bugs in the update and go ahead with playing with scripts.

(btw the bans were reversed by VAC w/o too much trouble so the bug theory seems to hold water)

Thnaks again

Drfuzzy · August 2007

yea scripts are just multiple binds spit out in order, theres nothing cheating about them really. Hell, even my keyboard has a way i can build scripts into it <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />

BonesX · August 2007

Tried a few out... didnt like any but the multi-shot pistol script. However, I DID find a few servers that wont let me play with scripts. kinda annoying really.

asmodee · August 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BonesX @ Aug 17 2007, 07:00 PM) [snapback]1644352[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'>
Tried a few out... didnt like any but the multi-shot pistol script. However, I DID find a few servers that wont let me play with scripts. kinda annoying really.
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Most people don't understand how limited scripts are and think scripts are capable of doing things that cheats do (like aim for you). Most servers (at least in the US) seem to block scripts.

BonesX · August 2007

sad that I need to have 2 sets of cfg files. w/ and w/o scripts. ah well, it means that i will have to get even deaper into setting em up right.

lets see cfg for marine play- check, skulk- check, gorge- check, fade- check. OK, set up keys to run them and off I go. See you all inside; I'm off to see if I can improve my stats.

Thansal · August 2007

The simple way of doing this is to have 2 config files (say, BS.cfg and noBS.cfg)
at the end of each, simply put in a line that binds a key you don't use (-?) to execute the other.

asmodee · August 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Aug 27 2007, 01:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1645756"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>The simple way of doing this is to have 2 config files (say, BS.cfg and noBS.cfg)
at the end of each, simply put in a line that binds a key you don't use (-?) to execute the other.</div>

With mp_bs 1 you cannot use a key to execute a script.

EDIT: If you set your nobs.cfg to be able to execute your bs.cfg, then on servers that allow scripts you could easily turn them on with 1 button press, but not the other way around.

Thansal · August 2007

you want that reversed then.

Have your BS.cfg auto load, but give it the line to switch to noBS.cfg with a button. Whenever you join a server you give that key a tap and it will load your Scripts if BS is set to 0 and it will nto if it is set to 1, kinda simple <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

Or you can use a more advanced server browser (I Think ASE still works for this) and filter out any server with BS 1 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

BonesX · August 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Aug 27 2007, 02:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1645765"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'>you want that reversed then.

Have your BS.cfg auto load, but give it the line to switch to noBS.cfg with a button. Whenever you join a server you give that key a tap and it will load your Scripts if BS is set to 0 and it will nto if it is set to 1, kinda simple <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

Or you can use a more advanced server browser (I Think ASE still works for this) and filter out any server with BS 1 <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /></div>

meh. I just set up KP_Enter to exec clean.cfg which is a clean (no script) cfg. and F7-F11 to scripts for the variety of lifeforms. They all overwrite each other so I am set. Thanks for all the help guys.

BTW I wrote a paracite then bite script last night that works great. Time for the big time i guess.

asmodee · August 2007

EDIT: I AM TEH DUMB

Thansal · August 2007

exactly, thus you want your default to be ready for BS 1

So your BS 1 config file has a line that will ONLY work if you are on a BS 0 server.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>EDIT: If you set your nobs.cfg to be able to execute your bs.cfg, then on servers that allow scripts you could easily turn them on with 1 button press, but not the other way around.</div>
if your nobs.cfg has a line to switch to bs.cfg, then it will not work when you join a BS server.

BonesX · September 2007

Not a big thing. Near as i can tell if the server doesnt allow scripts it just wont let you run em and puts up a message saying YOU CANT RUN SCRIPTS HERE type message. the rest of the cfg works fine just not the scripts.

That said having a key bind for joining a team that executes a .cfg file is easy. Just include the impulse for joining the either team in it and then all your setup binds too. Just dont forget to reset your basic attack key back to +attack in your clean .cfg if you change it. I currently use a pistol script for the marines that I need to take off when I go aliens for example.

HatlabuFarkas · March 2008

We plays a 30 minutes CO_Faceoff battle in AMX modded server, and a Cheater is Comes up, and get the game wrong, alm0st all the players left, because this guy is use a cheat.
He have a Steam ID : - snip -

Steam ID removed - Insane

Kouji_San · March 2008

[quote name='HatlabuFarkas' post='1674442' date='Mar 27 2008, 07:44 PM']We plays a 30 minutes CO_Faceoff battle in AMX modded server, and a Cheater is Comes up, and get the game wrong, alm0st all the players left, because this guy is use a cheat.
He have a Steam ID : ( - snip -
You can't just come on here and call someone a cheater without proof/serverlogs/demo's or something. Well technically you can, but firstly this is not the forum of that particular server and secondly its just not a good code of conduct imho. And I don't get what this has to do with anything in this OLD thread?

Just stating something as it was a very random comment on your part :D Meh the main subject of this OLD thread was if scripts are cheats or not, well they're not and VAC will not ban you for it...

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Also, in case you haven't noticed: This B an OLD not to mention unrelated thread :p

Meh, I guess you hit reply instead of new topic, still it has no place on this forum and should be discussed on the related server forum or IRC channel (with proof ofcourse)

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