I need a new firewall

locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">for Vista</div>So I recently finished putting together my new box last night after having to RMA one dead motherboard. I installed vista because this was my new gaming rig and I wanted the option to play the newest games and copied all of the files that I downloaded on my second HDD before my old PC crapped out.
The major problem I ran into is apparently Symantec Firewall won't run on Vista and I'm not sure what's good/cheap out there for firewalls. Any suggestions?
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    Do you not run behind a router? most hardware firewalls (even linksys) are just as good (if not better) then software ones, with the giant added benefit of taking up 0 system resources....
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Does Vista still have a Windows Firewall? Those work pretty well.
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  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    I am behind a router, but I still feel naked without a firewall. Call it a comfort blanket.
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  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    Windows Vista does come with a firewall (Windows Firewall). It's not designed well for outbound connection monitoring, so some people don't consider it a worthwhile option.
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  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1647588:date=Sep 5 2007, 11:14 AM:name=MedHead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MedHead @ Sep 5 2007, 11:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647588"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Windows Vista does come with a firewall (Windows Firewall). It's not designed well for outbound connection monitoring, so some people don't consider it a worthwhile option.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    What he said. It's mostly so I can keep programs from accessing the internet whenever the heck they feel like it. I don't need googleNotifier/WMP/iTunes updating themselves just because they can.
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  • HellbillyHellbilly A whole title out of pity... Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3931Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Best firewall i've ever used is Sygate Personal Firewall. Unfortunately it's been discontinued for la while and bought up by Symantec so it will probably not work on Vista.
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  • niaccurshiniaccurshi Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11629Members, Constellation
    edited September 2007
    According to reviews the best one is ZoneAlarm these days, and the top package is only like $60 or something (per year). Just make sure you get version 7.1 if you want it to work with Vista
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  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1647646:date=Sep 5 2007, 12:12 PM:name=niaccurshi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(niaccurshi @ Sep 5 2007, 12:12 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647646"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->According to reviews the best one is ZoneAlarm these days, and the top package is only like $60 or something (per year). Just make sure you get version 7.1 if you want it to work with Vista<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm pretty sure the firewall by itself, and not the full security package, is free.
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  • niaccurshiniaccurshi Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11629Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1647677:date=Sep 5 2007, 11:20 PM:name=Mantrid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mantrid @ Sep 5 2007, 11:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647677"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm pretty sure the firewall by itself, and not the full security package, is free.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Probably
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  • LuukasLuukas Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25009Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1647677:date=Sep 6 2007, 01:20 AM:name=Mantrid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mantrid @ Sep 6 2007, 01:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647677"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm pretty sure the firewall by itself, and not the full security package, is free.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The free version of Zonealarm is, supposedly, bloated trash.

    Give <a href="http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/" target="_blank">Comodo</a> a shot? Even though it's free, I liked it better than Outpost 4 ("forgot" settings at times, log became corrupted, memory footprint could reach 60MB... and it uses SPI only if you add a trigger to the rules).
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  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    edited September 2007
    Hmm thanks. I dled the free zone alarm but I haven't installed it yet. I would like to try Comodo but there's no Vista version yet so I guess I'll install zone alarm tonight.
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  • LuukasLuukas Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25009Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1647784:date=Sep 6 2007, 05:52 PM:name=locallyunscene)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(locallyunscene @ Sep 6 2007, 05:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647784"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hmm thanks. I dled the free zone alarm but I haven't installed it yet. I would like to try Comodo but there's no Vista version yet so I guess I'll install zone alarm tonight.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ah, I thought the Vista version was out already, should've checked. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" />
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  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    Soooo I tried zone alarm,

    It took super long to restart my computer: Strike 1.

    It forced me to use Internet Explorer as its interface and messed with the internet security settings: Strike 2.

    There was no easy interface to unblock outgoing programs: Strike 3, YOU'RE OUTTA HERE!

    Thanks for the help, but I guess I'm stuck with windows firewall for a little bit.
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    I'll readily admit that I haven't read any of this thread past the first mention of "Zonealarm".

    <!--sizeo:7--><span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Avoid Zonealarm like a lepper with the plague who is also covered with flaming poo.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

    Seriously. Don't even contemplate considering going anywhere near that pile of putrid pus. It's singularly the worst piece of software ever to exist in any form ever.

    You don't believe me? If you uninstall it <b>it sees fit to lock down all network traffic on every adapter</b>. I guess that's one way to make a computer safe.

    Another time a small mini-version of zonealarm came with a piece of VPN software that I had to install. When I uninstalled it after I'd finished it put a little entry in some config file (somewhere, I forget) that prevented any traffic on port 80. I could ping, I could SSH, I could IRC, just no web browsing. After I managed to hunt down this elusive little ###### of a file (not hosts) everything was back to normal.

    In closing: I hate zonealarm more than hitler hated the jews.

    --Scythe--
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  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <pedant>

    Running behind NAT through a router is <b>*not*</b> Firewalling. If people could get that simple fact through their brains, we'd see an awful lot less owned boxes.

    </pedant>

    - Shockwave
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  • niaccurshiniaccurshi Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11629Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1647939:date=Sep 7 2007, 09:03 AM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Sep 7 2007, 09:03 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647939"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In closing: I hate zonealarm more than hitler hated the jews.

    --Scythe--<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Fair play, I only mention it (not that I use it) because it's got (v7+) good reviews, top rated infact by reputable types.
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  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    I have a secure router. \o/
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  • TesseractTesseract Join Date: 2007-06-21 Member: 61328Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1647762:date=Sep 6 2007, 11:44 AM:name=Luukas)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Luukas @ Sep 6 2007, 11:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647762"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The free version of Zonealarm is, supposedly, bloated trash.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    As is the Security Suite; I did not continue to purchase after my initial subscription ran out.
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  • RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1647610:date=Sep 5 2007, 06:52 PM:name=Hellbilly)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hellbilly @ Sep 5 2007, 06:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1647610"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Best firewall i've ever used is Sygate Personal Firewall. Unfortunately it's been discontinued for la while and bought up by Symantec so it will probably not work on Vista.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ditto. Still running it on desktop (xp), but laptop's running vista and it doesn't work on it. Winblows firewall in vista's surprisingly efficient. The old winblows firewall was about as secure as not having any connection at all. And I don't mean that in a good way. Also: router ftw.
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