Pistol Lovers

hp_Siriushp_Sirius Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9510Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Why give it up?</div> I enjoy the marine pistol. It is my primary weapon, unless given something (shotgun, HMG or nade-launcher) by the commander. It is very demoralizing to be given a welder or trip mines, only to lose my most effective weapon. Surely the devs can switch trip mines and welders to the 4th weapon slot instead of the 2nd.
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  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    Ahem, you can just pick your pistol back up.
  • HellbillyHellbilly A whole title out of pity... Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3931Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Just drop the welder and pick up the pistol again......
  • Bob_the_AlienBob_the_Alien Join Date: 2002-01-30 Member: 135Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Hellbilly™+Nov 26 2002, 05:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hellbilly™ @ Nov 26 2002, 05:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Just drop the welder and pick up the pistol again......<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yay we just wasted 20 creds!
  • hp_Siriushp_Sirius Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9510Members
    umm no duh...that was quite obvious of you. But the welder (which the team spent good RPs for) is useful for doing things the pistol can't...incase you didn't notice.

    Don't treat me like an idiot and I'll afford you the same.
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    edited November 2002
    if u drop it someone else can pick it up as well, it doesnt waste anything, and besides if your comm wants to give u a welder it means he doesnt want u to go off and shoot <span style='color:green'>stuff </span> up, try actualy being useful with it u gun hoe maniac <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <span style='color:green'>Don't avoid the swearfilter. </span>
  • hp_Siriushp_Sirius Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9510Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--GreyPaws+Nov 26 2002, 03:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GreyPaws @ Nov 26 2002, 03:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->if u drop it someone else can pick it up as well, it doesnt waste anything, and besides if your comm wants to give u a welder it means he doesnt want u to go off and shoot <span style='color:green'>stuff </span> up, try actualy being useful with it u gun hoe maniac <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just not too bright around here are they? Remember you started the insulting.

    OK let me type slowly...lol

    I happen to have a better shot of getting to the location the comm wants welded if I can use my pistol to kill skulks/lerks/gorges rather than the LMG. It's not too often I've had a comm drop a welder out at location, he usually provides it in base and wants me somewhere else to fix something.

    Would it really be that big a deal to just switch which slot they go to? And isn't there some other pointless thread these people who aren't thinking things through can go read and post in?
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    if yer going off alone to weld you deserve to die anyway


    blow me

    thank you
  • hp_Siriushp_Sirius Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9510Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--GreyPaws+Nov 26 2002, 03:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GreyPaws @ Nov 26 2002, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->if yer going off alone to weld you deserve to die anyway


    blow me

    thank you<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You just don't give up on being stupid do you.

    Even if I have someone with me (what idiot goes out alone with RP costing equipment?), I can cover his **obscenity** better with a pistol than an LMG. Great he's covering me if I'm going to get eaten, but shouldn't he expect me to be able to protect him as best I can?
  • DanDaManDanDaMan Join Date: 2002-03-19 Member: 335Members
    yeah I think the whole point of it taking up the second weapon slot is that you CANT have both the pistol and the welder at the sametime. Perhaps if you really wanted that pistol a better idea would to have the ability to drop your lmg and carry just a pistol and welder
  • KhaimKhaim Join Date: 2002-06-28 Member: 841Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    there is a REASON that mines and welders take up slot 2 you know. Namely, you then only have 1 main wepon to attack with and cant just switch and finish off the enemy after burning off that first LMG clip. Also the pistol does a ton of damage fast, but clip for clip the LMG does x2.5 times as much damage, which will save your **obscenity** against a fade. ALSO: dont turn this into a flame war, 2 wrongs dont make a right.
  • hp_Siriushp_Sirius Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9510Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DanDaMan+Nov 26 2002, 03:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DanDaMan @ Nov 26 2002, 03:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->yeah I think the whole point of it taking up the second weapon slot is that you CANT have both the pistol and the welder at the sametime. Perhaps if you really wanted that pistol a better idea would to have the ability to drop your lmg and carry just a pistol and welder<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fine, that idea works for me to, I'm just more accuarate with the pistol. Currently my ranged offensive power is getting taken away by me having a welder.

    And if you're implying that this was already considered, great, but I didn't find such information in a search.
  • hp_Siriushp_Sirius Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9510Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--Khaim+Nov 26 2002, 03:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Khaim @ Nov 26 2002, 03:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->there is a REASON that mines and welders take up slot 2 you know.  Namely, you then only have 1 main wepon to attack with and cant just switch and finish off the enemy after burning off that first LMG clip.  Also the pistol does a ton of damage fast, but clip for clip the LMG does x2.5 times as much damage, which will save your **obscenity** against a fade.   ALSO: dont turn this into a flame war, 2 wrongs dont make a right.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How do you come up with X2.5 as much damage?

    From what I've seen the LMG is not as accurate as the pistol, so you can't count the damage of each and every bullet from the LMG, unless you're up close and personal, at that point you're dead anyway. Even if you do get a full 2.5 X the damage from a clip, the extra time it cost could mean the difference between life and food.
  • SiniSSiniS Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10017Members
    If I don't want the welder I just walk up to someone and throw it right at them, then pick my pistol back up..
  • ShingyBoyShingyBoy Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9086Members
    i av killed many thingys weak ones anyway wit a pistol but welder rulez just weld em all yeaaa <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • padijunpadijun Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3419Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--hp_Sirius+Nov 26 2002, 11:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (hp_Sirius @ Nov 26 2002, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Would it really be that big a deal to just switch which slot they go to? And isn't there some other pointless thread these people who aren't thinking things through can go read and post in?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Have you ever considered that it might be a *gasp* <i>balance</i> issue? That's like asking why you can't carry a shotgun and a HMG.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    oy vey, bad spelling, ok
    bad gramer, sure, what ever

    however posts that make me want to claw my eyes out before my brain reaches out and throtels me till I pass out from lack of O2 is where I draw the line, gahh


    ok, as for the entire welder deal;
    mines, welder, etc I beleive WERE origanaly slot 4 (not positive) I beieve this was changed for game balance.

    The one thing I wish is that pistols would not go away after they are droped

    All to often I am finished setting up my mines, and lo, I have no secondary weapon

    I think this should only hapen with the pistol though (lmg no worries, if you droped yours you wont be wanting it back, and HMGs/GLs/Shotties cost RPs and thus don't stay for a good reason

    I just don't like the fact that you can't get a new pistol (bah)


    and btw, would yalls just try and keep it *bleep*ing civil?, please?
  • hp_Siriushp_Sirius Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9510Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Nov 26 2002, 04:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Nov 26 2002, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->oy vey, bad spelling, ok
    bad gramer, sure, what ever

    however posts that make me want to claw my eyes out before my brain reaches out and throtels me till I pass out from lack of O2 is where I draw the line, gahh


    ok, as for the entire welder deal;
    mines, welder, etc I beleive WERE origanaly slot 4 (not positive) I beieve this was changed for game balance.

    The one thing I wish is that pistols would not go away after they are droped

    All to often I am finished setting up my mines, and lo, I have no secondary weapon

    I think this should only hapen with the pistol though (lmg no worries, if you droped yours you wont be wanting it back, and HMGs/GLs/Shotties cost RPs and thus don't stay for a good reason

    I just don't like the fact that you can't get a new pistol (bah)


    and btw, would yalls just try and keep it *bleep*ing civil?, please?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wow, a post with real information. Thanks Thansal. So they ditched the pistol because the pistol plus welder/mines was too powerful? Interesting.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    (hehe, this is what happens if you have been around since summer ;D)

    btw, this is only what I remember, I might be wrong (check with one of the PTs to see if it is actualy ture)

    and on the amusing side, there actualy used to be a nuke ;D (we don't know what it was suposed to do, but you can still bind a key to it ;D)
  • RotA_PlagueRotA_Plague Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6768Members
    Beat me to it... Even though I was here during the summer(since June), I haven't posted on the forums because I had not to much of anything to say with my low ammount of knowledge on NS at that point. Like he said it would be a evening issue.

    Would be cool to get the basicly eq back but cost like 5 resources(they can keep the LMG, I don't plan on needing it any time soon). Also would of been cool to have another choice of a pistol, of course at the cost of researching(maybe) and commander dropping it, but that is a completely different issue. (A advanced military giving out "better" pistols to some of their soldiers.. just doesn't seem completely right, maybe it is just me)
  • biodecaybiodecay Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9105Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--hp_Sirius+Nov 27 2002, 08:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (hp_Sirius @ Nov 27 2002, 08:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Wow, a post with real information. Thanks Thansal. So they ditched the pistol because the pistol plus welder/mines was too powerful? Interesting.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Which seems to make sense - pistol @ long range, lmg @ medium range, whip out the welder up close, and you're dangerous at all distances.

    Not to mention the infamous triad of welder toting HA marines. Best way of taking down anything, really. All three weld each other and weld anything near them. Nothing hurts them, and three welders deal significant damage. Three seems to be the magic number. Two don't heal fast enough to survive heavier fire, and more than three starts to get hard to organise.

    Although I do admit that there's nothing quite like the feeling of a skulk exploding at your feet from that last pistol round. Mick Jagger should have done that, and he would have indeed found satisfaction...

    =)
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    <!--QuoteBegin--Bob the Alien+Nov 27 2002, 01:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bob the Alien @ Nov 27 2002, 01:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Hellbilly™+Nov 26 2002, 05:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hellbilly™ @ Nov 26 2002, 05:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Just drop the welder and pick up the pistol again......<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yay we just wasted 20 creds!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Doesnt a welder cost 10 credits?

    Gah lazy people, just pick it up once you drop it or dont bother getting one.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    yup yup, that would be nasty (I am deadly with my pistol so I always try to hold on to it)

    though if I do end up with a welder I will simply stick right by someone else (an HA if I can)

    and btw, there is an upgraded pistol, it does +%10 DMG (well actualy there are 3 upgraded pistols ;D)
  • ZifnabZifnab Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6062Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--hp_Sirius+Nov 26 2002, 05:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (hp_Sirius @ Nov 26 2002, 05:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Wow, a post with real information.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ya know, you need to stop being a whiney little jerk.
    You seem very disgruntled for some reason.
    If you pick up a welder and don't want it, throw it back and get your pistol. It's very simple. You don't <i>have</i> to be the one to have the welder. As you said yourself, you don't go off alone.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Stop the flaming, please.

    Old system:
    primaries were the LMG, HMG, Shotgun
    secondaries were the Pistol, GL, Welder
    tertiaries were the Knife and Mines

    You could carry any number of primaries, secondaries, and tertiaries, but every weapon slowed you down more. A marine with HMG, GL, and mines was CRAWLING.

    This was changed to the current system both for balance and to keep people from hoarding multiple expensive weapons.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited November 2002
    HMG GL HA LOL

    its an FN turret/sieg all rolled into one ;D

    personaly I would love to be able to have all the weapons (the ultimate in base deffense, add in a jet pack so you could actualy move)

    find a nice high up spot and rain death down on oll the aliens ;D
    oh and TY Coil for ending this crap (I hope)
  • Teufel_EldritchTeufel_Eldritch Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 124Members
    Thansal:
    "yalls?" no no no no Its not "yalls", the proper word is........... "youins." <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> "Yalls"...heh sheesh!
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    actualy the right word is yall (the s is for morons like me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->)
  • FoggyFoggy Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9620Members
    I don't like the pistol because I look like a ponce when I run with it.
  • NSCentralNSCentral Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9527Members
    sometimes, a player has to make a sacrifice for the team, like giving up the pistol for a welder!
  • Sushi-YSushi-Y Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3018Members
    edited November 2002
    uh, why make a big deal out of this? If you like the pistol so much then use it, give the welder or mine to someone else. If everyone could carry welders and pistols it would probably unbalance the game.

    whoops, missed page 2
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