More Like Starcraft Then You Think :)

uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
I saw somewhere that <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->NS is <b>NOT</b> starcraft, so stop trying to make it like that!"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> (Or something like it)

NS is more like starcraft then you think.

Skulk/Zergling: Disposable melee shock troop for rushing. Cheap. Fast. Ugly.
Gorge/Drone: Both have a green spit attack.
Onos/Ultralisk: Big as a truck and can do about as much damage as one rampaging through your base.
Fade/Hydralisk: Clawing (In movies, though not in game), acid spines or something.
Defiler/Lurk: Dark Swarm: Protects allies from enemy attacks, is orange and cloudy. Umbra: Same thing. Plague and Spores, both incredibly damaging.
Queen/Skulk: 'Parasite'.
Queen/Gorge: 'Babblers', little weak annoyances, but without the expense of a marine life.

Hives in general.
The 'Creep' near hives.
Aliens can gradually heal.



Siege Turrets/Siege Tanks: Good against structures, not against units (Not at all in NS, however).
Marines/Marines: They talk funny, and have a big gun.
Flamethrower/Firebat: IF IMPLEMENTED.
The little corner layout in the commander screen looks a lot like SC too <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->


Just some things I noticed <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Comments

  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited November 2002
    lol, yes ofcourse there are similarities between the 2

    and if you are a hardcore SCer, you are bound to call skulks zerglings and fades hydralisks
    I know this b/c I have gotten the entire CS department at my school hooked on NS, and they are almost all big SC fans ;D

    oh, and lets watch the idiots flame you <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    True, there are similarities, but there are similarities between all games, really.

    Heh, in the NSTR, some sounds from Starcraft were used as placeholders.

    So its a pretty safe bet that at least a few of the dev's were Starcraft fans <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Regardless, NS is NOT Starcraft, no matter how many similarities you draw.

    Its much, much better <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    Sure, there are similarities. There are also similarities to AvP2.

    I'm putting my flame-retardant suit and leaving.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    then again the place holder GL model was the AK from CS ;D


    yes, there are similarities, they are funny, and no one is trying to say that NS=SC or that Flay ripped off SC (And if they do I beat em
  • ireValireVal Join Date: 2002-09-30 Member: 1390Members
    ive seen so many of these comparisons i just want to shoot myself, people saying NS is like AvP or Gloom or Starcraft because of this and that, its really getting dumb, sooner or later people are going to be saying NS is just like Half-Life single player because you have guns and a flashlight and you fight aliens

    i agree, it does have similarities, they even used starcrafts sounds for awhile, but its a completely different game than starcraft, so everyone needs to stop posting about the games similarities with other games cuz its been done a million times before
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    Dudes calm down this wasn't a flame, I just thought it was funny, everyone is saying 'Blah blah this isn't starcraft'.

    THe whole alien race is a spin-off of Starcraft. I'm not complaining. So it's starcraft the FPS.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    lol, pls note that the first flame was actualy <$ire>Val

    the rest of us were just sayingm, yes we know it like it, and now get ready to be flamed

    hey sire, read my first post in this thread <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->sooner or later people are going to be saying NS is just like Half-Life single player because you have guns and a flashlight and you fight aliens<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    MY GOSH YOUR RIGHT! it IS like half life! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->

    hehe

    *continues to hunt for a hydralisk model to replace fade*

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Lord_RequiemLord_Requiem Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9481Members
    The biggest thing it has in common with starcraft is the building placement marine sound (sounds exactly like building placement in SC) and alien squishy healing sound, sounds exactly like zerg in SC. (I forget which thing it sounds like)
  • FoggyFoggy Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9620Members
    And when you're alien, the warning voice sounds like the zerg one. You know, "Hive is under attack".
  • TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
    Everyone already knows of the similarities, and I'm not lying when I say MOST of the people on the dev team are hardcore SC players, I've played SC with flayra numerous times. It is a great inspiration, and this topic isn't really bad or innapropriate. The only reason we get angry at it sometimes is that people try to make NS look bad because they make direct comparisons to Starcraft, it has happened numerous times before. This topic may eventually become locked because of the comments of others
  • DestinyDestiny Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9159Members
    hey ideas r excellent n original but inspiration for those are taken from many places ya know... sc's world gives good feel when creating the ns world i must say.

    /me crash n burn... dun burn me too much plz
  • Paranoia2MBParanoia2MB Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7832Members
    (a joke)

    Hmm, I do agree with this hehe, commanding in NS is just like playing Starcraft.

    So, all your asian people who are mad about NS...get your **obscenity** in the commanders chair. Better to have you commanding then aimbotting!
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->


    (please remember, this was just a -JOKE-!)
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    edited November 2002
    <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->

    If ONE MORE THING was to be implemented from starcraft, I'm 120% all for the C-10 Canister Rifle (Ghost gun).

    EDIT: Changed smily. Who the hell uses 0 (Zero) for the mouth of the <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> smiley? IT's more standard to use O (Capital O) or o.

    Nother edit: Realized "O (Capital O)" is realyl amusing.
  • HannebambelHannebambel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5416Banned
    I miss the Protoss! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BigwigBigwig Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1646Members
    The OC attack sounds like a zergling
  • Scorpion571Scorpion571 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9800Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Bigwig+Dec 22 2002, 10:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bigwig @ Dec 22 2002, 10:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The OC attack sounds like a zergling<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sounds more like an ultralisk from starcraft being killed.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Gorge/Drone: Both have a green spit attack.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, the drones shoot spines just as hydralisks do.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    WHY was this topic dredge up from the depths? Let it die in peace, forgotten, please.
  • WUbba3WUbba3 Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5629Members
    Hey, another similitarity - both NS and SC have that **obscenity** period after the enemies break through your main defenses and then there's a a twenty minute portion of that game that's incredibly boring for the losing team and they basically have no chance of recovery... no, wait, in StarCraft that time period is only a minute or two... it's only in Natural Selection where they drag that crappy part of the game out forever...
  • HannebambelHannebambel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5416Banned
    edited December 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--coil+Dec 22 2002, 04:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Dec 22 2002, 04:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->WHY was this topic dredge up from the depths?  Let it die in peace, forgotten, please.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Pah!

    And again if someone starts a similar thread it gets locked and he is demanded to use the search function.

    It is not your job to decide what has to stop.


    Psychics, Psychics!!!
  • AminalAminal Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10610Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Nov 26 2002, 05:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Nov 26 2002, 05:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I know this b/c I have gotten the entire CS department at my school hooked on NS<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You have a counter-strike department at school. that is cool beyond compare.
  • DArtagnanDArtagnan Join Date: 2002-12-22 Member: 11336Members
    I was browsing throught the sprites that came included with NS, saw both a "syringe" icon under the marine upgrades (stimpack?) and a structure with test tubes and a flask (science facility)? This is of course in addition to the nuke icon, but I guess everyone already knows about that.

    Starcraft and NS are both brilliant games, and I think comparisons like these, when humorous in intent and not an attempt at debasing the creativity of NS's developers, are appropriate.
  • GobyWanGobyWan Join Date: 2002-02-22 Member: 234Members
    Foggy: It's the same voice actress as Starcraft, AFAIK, Flayra hired her a while back. That's why it sounds so similar.
  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4340Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--GobyWan+Dec 23 2002, 06:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GobyWan @ Dec 23 2002, 06:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Foggy: It's the same voice actress as Starcraft, AFAIK, Flayra hired her a while back. That's why it sounds so similar.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wait, the alien hive voice is an acTRESS? As in female? I'd always assumed it was a male voice...
  • DuderDuder Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9680Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--the_move+Dec 23 2002, 06:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the_move @ Dec 23 2002, 06:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--coil+Dec 22 2002, 04:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Dec 22 2002, 04:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->WHY was this topic dredge up from the depths?  Let it die in peace, forgotten, please.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Pah!

    And again if someone starts a similar thread it gets locked and he is demanded to use the search function.

    It is not your job to decide what has to stop.


    Psychics, Psychics!!!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes i find it funny that if you post a similar thread, everyone says "Use the search function". When you revive a old thread which you <b>searched</b>, it gets locked.

    Hilarious.
  • SootySooty Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11416Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Scorpion571+Dec 22 2002, 11:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scorpion571 @ Dec 22 2002, 11:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Bigwig+Dec 22 2002, 10:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bigwig @ Dec 22 2002, 10:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The OC attack sounds like a zergling<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sounds more like an ultralisk from starcraft being killed.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Gorge/Drone: Both have a green spit attack.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, the drones shoot spines just as hydralisks do.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    LOL! It DOES sound like a dead ultralisk. But zergling doesn't really make that sound when they attack, instead when they are selected. BTW, they make very similar sounds with skulks :S

    Gorge is as fat as a drone, onos as fade as ultra, skulks as small as zerglings, fades as sleek as hydra. So... I agree <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    SCOURGES! OMG!
    But lerks dont have xenocide... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Hmm, what would equal the HA/HMG then? ... A yes! The Goliath! wheeee, lets give the HA ppl a rocket launcher to use against lerks and leaping skulks!
    ... Jetpacks and Wraiths? But no lasers for the marines :/ (and they can't cloak)
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    It's dead, let it die!
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