This Concerns One Of Your Irc Chatroom Operators..

blackjackelblackjackel Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2151Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">abuse of power, admitted too....</div> #naturalselection [ReD]boobs GBL|G8|Masterx|Sleep|Out [RO]Necro [Killa]-AFK Ghoul sYn|borf Pinky[sleep] |iquify psychosven[off] Merl novafaen Lush TheAlmightyHat DiscoSleep Necromancer|ZzzzThenSkool P]I[N-Dragon stickyG HF|KIR|HanoverFist|Zzz @ChanServ @eBnar|Lemur drketrnl eXz`m0de aphistic Lemur|Zoboomafoo Al_Berto drippy- HotSoup Zao Sephiroth[ZzZ] O-Face viking` jj-bed goater|gigabugger JViz-AA- Fuelsleep Sledeau @Comp[Sleep] [CC]Turkish Redempt][on
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#naturalselection ]XFR[-D3X|S3ni0r`in`ScHiZ00L @Onos
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blackjackel Nickname is already in use.
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blackjackel Nickname is already in use.
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* Your nick is now blackjackal
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<u>* You were kicked from #naturalselection by ChanServ (look at me, i'm abusing ops! Please don't hack my XP password oh scary nerd (DOOManiac|APATHY))</u>
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#naturalselection unable to join channel (address is banned)
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Ping? Pong!



The underlined part is the part the concerns me, Unfortunately i do not have MIRC set up to make logs so i cannot show you what happned in the chatroom (i really gotta set mirc to start logging things)

I did nothing, he kickbanned me for no reason, or the only reason is he didnt like me, and i believe that is op power abuse, and he admits it as you can see above...

Basically we were discussing the drawviewmodel exploit and there were some disagreements, misunderstandings...etc.

Finally i proved him wrong on something and i said

"now do you understand? or are you going to kickban me for proving you wrong?"

unfortuenately the latter part was true and.....

he said "no, but ill kickban for other reasons"

Please unban me,

blackjackal is ~blkjackel@138.23.59.236 * blackjackel

you know how to get my ip from there <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

if you feel this is the wrong place to post this then please move it, this is the best forum i could think of...

Comments

  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    edited November 2002
    you have to watch what you say in there.
  • blackjackelblackjackel Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2151Members, Constellation
    i dont feel i said anything wrong in the post, but thanks for bringing it to my attention, what did i say wrong?
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    edited November 2002
    I don't know what you said.. I'm just saying it's like walking on thin ice in there.. tread lightly my friend. I was blasted by and Op and was threatened to be banned as my first warning in there because my mirc script has a touch of color in it. They REALLY hate color and also people repeating etc..

    the only thing you said wrong was "now do you understand? or are you going to kickban me for proving you wrong?" that's just asking for it. Taunting an OP will get ya banned everytime <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • blackjackelblackjackel Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2151Members, Constellation
    i taunted him cuz thats the least i could do (without crossing the border) cuz he **obscenity** me off with alot of stuff he said, he kept misunderstanding what i say (and vice versa), so he called me ignorant amongst other things, and i couldnt do jack crap back because he was an operator, so i thought taunting him would be the least i could do, so i did it...

    I still think its power abuse to ban me like that
  • GoleXGoleX Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7681Members
    DOOM is usually an awesome guy (drops by my server occasionally to get his **obscenity** kicked), but they really just don't stand for anything in that room... and its understandable when you are running one of the largest channels on Gamesnet. If you show you are leniant to certain types of arguments and flames, then alot more people will do it.

    By the way, to get unbanned its usually as easy as /msging an op in there.
  • Dan_ForeverDan_Forever Join Date: 2002-08-02 Member: 1054Members
    Slightly off topic, but out of pure curiosity, why was his nick "DOOManiac|APATHY"?
  • SlycasterSlycaster Limited Edition Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 24Members, NS1 Playtester
    ALl IRC ops have free will over kicking/banning if they feel that your disrupting the channel, or breaking the rules. DOOM would have not kicked and banned you otherwise. Please read the rules. Thanks.
  • denizendenizen Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2935Members
    It seems that this phenomenon is not limited to #naturalselection.

    In #nssever I posted the following link: <a href='http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=27428' target='_blank'>http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index...ArticleID=27428</a>

    It is to an article which calls into question the security of Linux and other open source projects.

    Someone in the channel disagreed with me. Prodigy-lv made a statement about the article being worthless, I asked him why, he said it was because of the extent of control Microsoft has over the media(I restated it much more eloquently). I disagreed, asking him to prove it. He said he was too lazy. I then said that I will disregard is opinion on this subject. If I want to listen to people spout meaningless conspiracy theories about Microsoft i'll go somewhere else. Seeing that noone else was talking about this I stopped watching the window. I notice maybe 10 minutes ago that I don't see the tab on mIRC. I see these messages in the gamesnet.net window:

    * You were kicked from #nsserver by ChanServ (go read your MCSE manual (prodigy-lv))
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    #nsserver denizen UgLyPuNk als +donce|Blahman @prodigy-lv [FoR]Slaptop Kapla Epoch-NS A-bep @HoundDawg|UA hullu-zzzz Mellon|ZZZzz +Theiggsta drk Dedicated|Cobra [SMWA]Suicidal_Ewok @KungFuSquirrel [WM]Server lv_bot cezium EvilGrin @ChanServ @prodigy drk-lv DarkSpawn|Afk HotSoup [insub]jej HF|KIR|HanoverFist|Zzz
    #nsserver End of /NAMES list.
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    * You were kicked from #nsserver by ChanServ (go read little man (prodigy-lv))
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    #nsserver unable to join channel (address is banned)

    I did not say anything offensive, nor insult this op in any way. I just went and did other things when I realized the conversation wasn't going anywhere, and I got banned. Anyone feel like explaining this? Or perhaps more care should be taken in screening channel operators.
  • MellonpoprMellonpopr Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2304Members
    I saw a different article on today saying that Linux has 16 security issues and Windows had 7 or something like that. I cannot for the life of me remember where I saw it *grumble* I thought it was CNN but I can't find it now.
  • Sotha_SilSotha_Sil Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8664Members
    Don't go to the IRC NS rooms anymore. Eventually it will just turn into a cesspool and then everyone will make fun of it.
  • denizendenizen Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2935Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sotha Sil+Nov 26 2002, 08:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sotha Sil @ Nov 26 2002, 08:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Don't go to the IRC NS rooms anymore. Eventually it will just turn into a cesspool and then everyone will make fun of it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I really would hate to see this happen as it would alienate much of the community. You could be right, though.
  • WinkieWinkie Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4034Members
    I just read that article and HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahAHhaHHAA (etc)

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->sophisticated automatic-update technologies modern Windows versions contain<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This on its own shows the lack of knowledge these people have, auto-update technology is neither sophisticated or rare in the linux world, it's a fact however that most sysadmins prefer to patch their software when they believe the new release is stable. It's one of the first rules of networking aswell, never apply a v1.0 version to ANY router/Switch etc or youw ill have downtime.
  • Dan_ForeverDan_Forever Join Date: 2002-08-02 Member: 1054Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->sophisticated automatic-update technologies modern Windows versions contain<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->Sounds like they were impersonating yoda as well... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GenmaCGenmaC Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2002Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sotha Sil+Nov 26 2002, 08:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sotha Sil @ Nov 26 2002, 08:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Don't go to the IRC NS rooms anymore. Eventually it will just turn into a cesspool and then everyone will make fun of it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That was 2 weeks ago, didn't you get the memo?

    Seriously, the room is full of morons and self-righteous wannabes who think they know everything. I avoid it like the plague.
  • HtNickoliHtNickoli Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9786Members
    edited November 2002
    I really wouldent bother joining a NS irc channel, as I have no interest in talking in one. Nor do I have anything relevant to say in such a channel. But from the ammount of posts and opions ppl have, its obvious the ns dev team is makeing to many associations with immature little kiddies, who someone think ops in a silly irc channel somehow gives them power LOL. And if your not willing to deal with the endless hassels being in such a position will obviously bring. Then you shouldent do it. I can see being really strick on a release day when your expecting a busy time and can't devote it to answering endless questions. Or you don't want the endless chatter to impede your pending release info. But for every day use?
    Exactly what is the point of haveing a IRC room for a game mod, If ppl cant talk or express they're opions, and discuss things?

    If this was just one or two ppl complaining, I'd just write them off as typical idiots who screw'd up, and think they have some god-given right todo what they want. But seeing as that is obviously not the case. I would think the NS dev team should look into it. Now I don't know anything about the NS team, But its not leaving a good first impression. After all, the actions of thoose they pick to represent them in a irc channel or anywhere, directly reflects on them.
  • SmellslikefecesSmellslikefeces Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8194Members
    I'm sorry to hear about the lose to those of you afflicted. I haven't been active on the IRC channels in ages. I was put off by the amount of idiots who own computers back then. It would appear that the same is still holding true today. Maybe one of you should create a channel called NS Mature, IQ > 100, Discussions ONLY! Its just an idea.
  • boobs!boobs! Old-School Competitor Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8504Members
    this is sad...its there channel its how they ru it. now from knowing most of the "ops" there i know them to be pretty much great guys (DOOMY especially) and i know he just didnt get off on a crazy spree and ban you for nothing. quit playing the innocent and get over it.

    btw for any of you that care Skulk Pit is back up at a new IP
    "Clan [ReD]'s Skulk pit :207.44.194.87:27018"
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