ns_orbital_cal

HassaanHassaan Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 33976Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Why isn't this awesome map official?</div>So we can have lucid, shiva and machina as official maps, but one of the best balanced maps in NS no matter what the version is - is left off the official map list. Why is that?
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  • LazyEyeLazyEye Join Date: 2005-01-06 Member: 32959Members, NS1 Playtester
    I think becuase it wasn't updated with bug fixes.

    All said, I like the map.
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  • pSyk0mAnpSyk0mAn Nerdish by Nature Germany Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19166Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    edited May 2007
    Afaik because of one res spot's name the mapper refused to change.
    Go figure.

    And I agree, this map deserves to be offical; dunno which side is more silly here in the argument about a location name.
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  • Shadow_SporkShadow_Spork Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33306Members
    edited May 2007
    Yes, that map definitely deserves to be an official map.

    Someone has to twist the mapmaker to change that node name, or at least "modify" it. I think they're just shooting themselves in the foot for not taking that kind of opportunity.
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  • phunktionphunktion Join Date: 2003-11-14 Member: 22883Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    someone has taken up the map and finished the bug fixes i started and changed the node name.

    i never had any qualms about changing the node name. i made a bunch of fixes and changes that never got completed ( including a new marine start )

    so be on the look out for it. it will probaly be played in the ANSL
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  • pSyk0mAnpSyk0mAn Nerdish by Nature Germany Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19166Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    ...but the node name is the revolving door of this map! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

    I'm glad the rumor about the node name is wrong and I'm looking forward to a new version.
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  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    Watch out doods male reproductive organ responsible for our existence causes map to not make official release. Will someone please think of the children for their eyes might burn off from the fires of hell for viewing such an offensive word.

    PEN-15!!!!!!
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  • JazzXJazzX cl_labelmaps ∞ Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9285Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    edited May 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1629570:date=May 27 2007, 11:46 PM:name=pSyk0mAn)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pSyk0mAn @ May 27 2007, 11:46 PM) [snapback]1629570[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Afaik because of one res spot's name the mapper refused to change.
    Go figure.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I've literally said this hundreds of times, but "Pen-15" is not the reason Orbital didn't make it into 3.2. We were unable to get in touch with Phunktion during the 3.2 development period and we didn't feel confident in shipping with it without knowing when (or if) it'd get an update.
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    CHECK AND MATE, EL OH EL.

    (keep mineshaft and aurora in the game, please. bring them back <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" /> )
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    edited May 2007
    Orbital imo would be a bad official map.

    Mineshaft was unbalanced, needed updated, lost source or mapper something like that. A couple of guys at Yo-Clan are currently re-making it.

    Aurora? Maybe you mean Ayumi?
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  • BacillusBacillus Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58241Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1629625:date=May 28 2007, 11:26 AM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thaldarin @ May 28 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]1629625[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Orbital imo would be a bad official map.
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    It has interesting architecture, good enough balance and quite unique feel in it, does it take something else?
    The textures are quite bad in some areas, cargo (the big node room next to ms) for example, but its still not that ugly.
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  • SaeppelSaeppel Join Date: 2005-02-16 Member: 41353Members, Constellation
    orbital is quite balanced, has some cool areas, looks quite good (apart from some textures BUT still good)

    a pity it has its bugged rinestart :<
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  • HassaanHassaan Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 33976Members
    edited May 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1629573:date=May 27 2007, 11:34 PM:name=phunktion)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phunktion @ May 27 2007, 11:34 PM) [snapback]1629573[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    someone has taken up the map and finished the bug fixes i started and changed the node name.

    i never had any qualms about changing the node name. i made a bunch of fixes and changes that never got completed ( including a new marine start )

    so be on the look out for it. it will probaly be played in the ANSL
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    Noo! Don't changed the Pen-15 Nozzle. Come on now we have goatse in co_sava but a Pen-15 nozzle is too offensive?

    And who cares about textures, the map is easy looking on the eye with nice balanced gamma and cool blue lighting. A lot of the textures in NS maps are overdone and hurt my eyes (hi machina)
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  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    Orbital is the best map in NS.
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  • tjosantjosan Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16374Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1629645:date=May 28 2007, 10:10 AM:name=Isamil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Isamil @ May 28 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]1629645[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Orbital is the best map in NS.
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    Tanith is the best map in NS.
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    This thread is going no where fast. Ignoring personal opinions of my own and others Orbital isn't official for a reason nor is it likely to be unless one of the dev's announce it.
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1629625:date=May 28 2007, 06:26 AM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thaldarin @ May 28 2007, 06:26 AM) [snapback]1629625[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Aurora? Maybe you mean Ayumi?
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    I'm highly highly disappointed in you Thaldarin.
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  • ZavaroZavaro Tucson, Arizona Join Date: 2005-02-14 Member: 41174Members, Super Administrators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    edited May 2007
    NS_Aurora was Evil_bob1's map from.. 5 years ago.

    It didn't look bad, but it was simplistic with low amounts of detail.

    <img src="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/uploads//post-4-1038658805.jpg" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />

    <img src="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/uploads//post-4-1038658879.jpg" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />

    <img src="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/uploads//post-4-1039162569.jpg" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />
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  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1629647:date=May 28 2007, 12:20 PM:name=tjosan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tjosan @ May 28 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]1629647[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Tanith is the best map in NS.
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    Discounting orbital's bugs, I think it's better than tanith.
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  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    Q: Where can I get it?
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  • GoldenGolden Join Date: 2004-09-01 Member: 31169Members, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, WC 2013 - Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    The new version of orbital, ns_orbital_ansl, with the bug fixes and some other improvements should be up on the ANSL site sometime next week.
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  • DroggogDroggog Random Pubber Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3293Members, Constellation
    edited May 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1629625:date=May 28 2007, 01:26 PM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thaldarin @ May 28 2007, 01:26 PM) [snapback]1629625[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Aurora? Maybe you mean Ayumi?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As he's saying "bring them back" i'm assuming he was talking about ns_<i>agora</i>, by kawak.
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  • ChimpZealotChimpZealot The Elite Demo Detective Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10315Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1629644:date=May 28 2007, 08:03 AM:name=Hassaan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Hassaan @ May 28 2007, 08:03 AM) [snapback]1629644[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Noo! Don't changed the Pen-15 Nozzle. Come on now we have goatse in co_sava but a Pen-15 nozzle is too offensive?

    And who cares about textures, the map is easy looking on the eye with nice balanced gamma and cool blue lighting. A lot of the textures in NS maps are overdone and hurt my eyes (hi machina)
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--quoteo(post=1629585:date=May 27 2007, 11:25 PM:name=JazzX)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JazzX @ May 27 2007, 11:25 PM) [snapback]1629585[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I've literally said this hundreds of times, but "Pen-15" is not the reason Orbital didn't make it into 3.2. We were unable to get in touch with Phunktion during the 3.2 development period and we didn't feel confident in shipping with it without knowing when (or if) it'd get an update.
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    QFE
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  • EmanonEmanon Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16254Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1629585:date=May 28 2007, 02:25 AM:name=JazzX)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JazzX @ May 28 2007, 02:25 AM) [snapback]1629585[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I've literally said this hundreds of times, but "Pen-15" is not the reason Orbital didn't make it into 3.2. We were unable to get in touch with Phunktion during the 3.2 development period and we didn't feel confident in shipping with it without knowing when (or if) it'd get an update.
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    Thank Golden for finding the build,
    Thank Maximus for updating/fixing the remaining bugs.

    (hopefully I have this correct because that was the last I knew of it)

    If orbital is accepted into the map rotation then ANSL can be forever labeled as a success.
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  • HassaanHassaan Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 33976Members
    So I checked out ns_orbital_ansl fromt he ansl website and orbital now looks sweeter. But if the devs didn't care about the "PEN-15" nozzle, why is the node now called hanger something?

    Makes me sad that such a unique part of the map is gone and is called hanger something (not even something unique) <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />

    The mirror in marine start is now covered due to sekret purposes <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • ChimpZealotChimpZealot The Elite Demo Detective Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10315Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->But if the devs didn't care about the "PEN-15" nozzle, why is the node now called hanger something?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "The devs" had nothing to do with this map build. It was updated especially for ansl. You can ask PREVERT-MAXIMUS why he changed the node name if you're really so torn up about it.
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    Oh no. Not the node name.

    Please.

    Really.

    Really.
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  • HassaanHassaan Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 33976Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1630226:date=May 31 2007, 01:16 AM:name=ChimpZealot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ChimpZealot @ May 31 2007, 01:16 AM) [snapback]1630226[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    "The devs" had nothing to do with this map build. It was updated especially for ansl. You can ask PREVERT-MAXIMUS why he changed the node name if you're really so torn up about it.
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    I just asked prevert-maximus in game and he said he changed it because the devs had a problem with it; ie. it wont make official with the PEN-15 name.

    I say we all just grow up and put the name back in ffs........
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  • ChimpZealotChimpZealot The Elite Demo Detective Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10315Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    As Jazz stated, it's not the reason the map was not included. It's up to whoever is currently maintaining the map (in this case, maximus) to make changes to it. You need to convince him to change it back, not <b><i><u>THE DEVS</u></i></b>©®™.
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  • prevertmaximusprevertmaximus Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11630Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    edited June 2007
    Yes, I got the map files from Phunktion to carry on with the ns_orbital map. I was very honored that he trusted me to do a good job on it. It's a very nice map. I changed the name because it was told to me to do so. Because of the name pen-15, but if that was not the problem for the map to be accepted then I can change it back. I would like to make sure there is nothing further to do on it as the labeled minimaps are a bit of a pain to change stuff. When all the other thing are good i'll change the name back to PEN-15 if that's what everyone wants . But if there was anything else on the map that needs to be changed I want to know before I finish it.


    Thanks, PREVERT-MAXIMUS
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1629754:date=May 29 2007, 07:39 AM:name=Droggog)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Droggog @ May 29 2007, 07:39 AM) [snapback]1629754[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    As he's saying "bring them back" i'm assuming he was talking about ns_<i>agora</i>, by kawak.
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    *Rubs his head*

    Uh yeah agora... see I was just uh.. testing the community! well done you passed! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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