<!--quoteo(post=1620517:date=Apr 12 2007, 08:34 AM:name=measles)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(measles @ Apr 12 2007, 08:34 AM) [snapback]1620517[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->MC is secondary, don't ###### argue with me. I looked it up in the dictionary. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
People always do MC first because that used to be the only way to get to a newly dropped hive in a timely fashion. Now, people are having trouble changing their strategies, when they're so used to MC first. You also say MC is secondary, but all the abilities have good early game uses. Silence w/o MT is incredibly useful, celerity lets you get around the map fast without a second hive, and adrenaline is for lerks and gorgies, the cheaper lifeforms.
Telling people not to argue with you? Wow, that's like the most effective arguing technique ever. You win the internets. Also, nice censor bypass, B7. SC has its uses, but you can usually use your ears instead of SoF and still be effective.
Also, <a href="http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/garble.htm" target="_blank">this website I found recently</a> reminded me of you, Measles.
<!--quoteo(post=1619060:date=Apr 5 2007, 05:35 AM:name=SmoodCroozn)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SmoodCroozn @ Apr 5 2007, 05:35 AM) [snapback]1619060[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Skulks are crap. The chambers are better off helping the larger forms as they will be the ones that push the game.
Fades and Onoses need the speed of celerity. It's the most important upgrade. Cloaking wears off with armor upgrades, obs and scans.
I would love going sc first, but celerity is too important.
As for the second chamber...
DC helps these forms live longer. SC gives focus, but that can be risky. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> leap focus makes every skulk on your team a mini terror bomber. That one focus bite is a huge problem to anything short of a team of HA welding eachother constantly. Even then, close to a hive it can quickly start to be overwhelmed. Fades really don't need that extra 100 armor unless you've done something seriously wrong in the early game (8 min hive for instance), and onos don't benifit from a DC upgrade at all any more, scent of fear is far more useless then either carapasc or regeneration, and redemption is just lame, sometimes it will work, sometimes it is a waste of an onos on the first charge.
<!--quoteo(post=1623805:date=Apr 29 2007, 10:24 AM:name=Pikminwars)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pikminwars @ Apr 29 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]1623805[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> People always do MC first because that used to be the only way to get to a newly dropped hive in a timely fashion. Now, people are having trouble changing their strategies, when they're so used to MC first. You also say MC is secondary, but all the abilities have good early game uses. Silence w/o MT is incredibly useful, celerity lets you get around the map fast without a second hive, and adrenaline is for lerks and gorgies, the cheaper lifeforms.
Telling people not to argue with you? Wow, that's like the most effective arguing technique ever. You win the internets. Also, nice censor bypass, B7. SC has its uses, but you can usually use your ears instead of SoF and still be effective.
Also, <a href="http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/garble.htm" target="_blank">this website I found recently</a> reminded me of you, Measles. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> MC has the best skulk upgrades. That's why it's always dropped first. DC first would be an option if cara skulks didn't suck so much. And SC first just sucks, cloak is easily countered by scan, and focus doesn't counter the fact that non MC skulks without cara can't touch marines in the early game. At second hive you have leap, and leap + focus is always own. SC is the best second chamber because of one ability combo and one ability combo alone. Focus leap bite. It also really helps fades, but that is just about secondary compleatly when compared with how good focus leap bite skulks are.
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I still prefer MC DC SC basicly because of the benefit for the support classes.
gorges and lerks can use support attacks which eat loads of energy alot more cause of adren. Also the carapace keeps them alive just that ambush longer meaning they can play a more active role on the battlefield. (do note I see lerk still as SUPPORT units rather then uber flying birds of doom. So they should always use the happygas and umbra)
for support classes SC won't do much. Exception is small games were gorges can OC lame the entire map, and use SC to cover said lame and them from anything including motionhax
<!--quoteo(post=1625525:date=May 7 2007, 04:25 PM:name=F4tManMGS2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(F4tManMGS2 @ May 7 2007, 04:25 PM) [snapback]1625525[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> can someone tell me what a HAPPY PANDA is? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's their attempt to be cute instead of resorting to blatant insults or other explitives... I find it mildly annoying because of that.
<!--quoteo(post=1625644:date=May 8 2007, 06:55 AM:name=Andrew_Fireborn)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Andrew_Fireborn @ May 8 2007, 06:55 AM) [snapback]1625644[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's their attempt to be cute instead of resorting to blatant insults or other explitives... I find it mildly annoying because of that. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As in HAPPY PANDA you mother-HAPPY PANDA why don't you go play hide and go HAPPY PANDA yourself?
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People always do MC first because that used to be the only way to get to a newly dropped hive in a timely fashion. Now, people are having trouble changing their strategies, when they're so used to MC first. You also say MC is secondary, but all the abilities have good early game uses. Silence w/o MT is incredibly useful, celerity lets you get around the map fast without a second hive, and adrenaline is for lerks and gorgies, the cheaper lifeforms.
Telling people not to argue with you? Wow, that's like the most effective arguing technique ever. You win the internets. Also, nice censor bypass, B7. SC has its uses, but you can usually use your ears instead of SoF and still be effective.
Also, <a href="http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/garble.htm" target="_blank">this website I found recently</a> reminded me of you, Measles.
Skulks are crap. The chambers are better off helping the larger forms as they will be the ones that push the game.
Fades and Onoses need the speed of celerity. It's the most important upgrade. Cloaking wears off with armor upgrades, obs and scans.
I would love going sc first, but celerity is too important.
As for the second chamber...
DC helps these forms live longer. SC gives focus, but that can be risky.
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leap focus makes every skulk on your team a mini terror bomber. That one focus bite is a huge problem to anything short of a team of HA welding eachother constantly. Even then, close to a hive it can quickly start to be overwhelmed. Fades really don't need that extra 100 armor unless you've done something seriously wrong in the early game (8 min hive for instance), and onos don't benifit from a DC upgrade at all any more, scent of fear is far more useless then either carapasc or regeneration, and redemption is just lame, sometimes it will work, sometimes it is a waste of an onos on the first charge.
<!--quoteo(post=1623805:date=Apr 29 2007, 10:24 AM:name=Pikminwars)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pikminwars @ Apr 29 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]1623805[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
People always do MC first because that used to be the only way to get to a newly dropped hive in a timely fashion. Now, people are having trouble changing their strategies, when they're so used to MC first. You also say MC is secondary, but all the abilities have good early game uses. Silence w/o MT is incredibly useful, celerity lets you get around the map fast without a second hive, and adrenaline is for lerks and gorgies, the cheaper lifeforms.
Telling people not to argue with you? Wow, that's like the most effective arguing technique ever. You win the internets. Also, nice censor bypass, B7. SC has its uses, but you can usually use your ears instead of SoF and still be effective.
Also, <a href="http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/garble.htm" target="_blank">this website I found recently</a> reminded me of you, Measles.
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MC has the best skulk upgrades. That's why it's always dropped first. DC first would be an option if cara skulks didn't suck so much. And SC first just sucks, cloak is easily countered by scan, and focus doesn't counter the fact that non MC skulks without cara can't touch marines in the early game. At second hive you have leap, and leap + focus is always own. SC is the best second chamber because of one ability combo and one ability combo alone. Focus leap bite. It also really helps fades, but that is just about secondary compleatly when compared with how good focus leap bite skulks are.
gorges and lerks can use support attacks which eat loads of energy alot more cause of adren. Also the carapace keeps them alive just that ambush longer meaning they can play a more active role on the battlefield. (do note I see lerk still as SUPPORT units rather then uber flying birds of doom. So they should always use the happygas and umbra)
for support classes SC won't do much. Exception is small games were gorges can OC lame the entire map, and use SC to cover said lame and them from anything including motionhax
can someone tell me what a HAPPY PANDA is?
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It's their attempt to be cute instead of resorting to blatant insults or other explitives... I find it mildly annoying because of that.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As in HAPPY PANDA you mother-HAPPY PANDA why don't you go play hide and go HAPPY PANDA yourself?
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