PS3 sells like hotcakes in UK

GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
<div class="IPBDescription">...but how?</div>Hiiii... not been posting much because I've been busy in RL moving house and stuff.

Anyhoo... Don't know how many have been keeping tabs on it all but the PS3 managed to shift 165,000 units in it's first two days of sales. On one hand I'm impressed because this dwarfs the 360's launch and is higher than the wii's as well. Of course, on the other I'm saddened by the fact that considering the way Sony have mocked europe in their various press releases before hand, given us a unit that isn't as good as the US and JP ones and still somehow costs more that they succeeded in a rip-roaring opening.

However, I have no idea where these 165,000 sales actually came from.

I've been checking some sites about this as something didn't hit me as being right about this and it didn't take much searching before my suspicions were reinforced... I hadn't seen anyone walking about with a PS3 box in their grubby mitts. When Wii launched I saw at least a few people over the days it came out with a wii box stashed in a big, big bag or hugged in their arms, I even recall seeing people with 360s on the streets but I've not seen a single soul with a PS3. Not one.

This mystery is further made baffling by the photos of the launches across the country and even the french one. Most of the midnight opening photos show <b>absolutely no-one</b> (yes, even the french photos were actually devoid of people). There are some that have one or two people, with the biggest crowd being the london opening which showed roughly 40 people.
Even here in Scotland's capital I find photos outside of gamestation showing not a single soul despite a rather nice lil queue bit set up and even a lil red carpet.

The 165,000 sales is a real figure and it's from a reliable source but I'm puzzled beyond measure why nothing in Real-life seems to actually support it. Were they bought online or something? Is it based off pre-orders? Were the majority of buyers trained Ninjas?

Can anyone shed some light on this as it's been bugging me for a while. If I saw people running about with PS3s or even saw some semblance of a crowded opening night it'd be fine but I see no evidence anywhere of them being bought and yet it's launch is almost bigger than the uk wii and 360's 2 day numbers combined.

What the flibble is going on? o.O

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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    sony is always inflating their sales numbers. no one at the launch + even more expensive in UK than it is elsewhere + it's already going for cheaper than retail on eBay = probably not really record sales. maybe they SHIPPED that many to stores?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1617669:date=Mar 29 2007, 09:22 AM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DiscoZombie @ Mar 29 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]1617669[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    sony is always inflating their sales numbers. no one at the launch + even more expensive in UK than it is elsewhere + it's already going for cheaper than retail on eBay = probably not really record sales. maybe they SHIPPED that many to stores?
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    That is what they were doing with the NA numbers, always reporting shipped instead of sold. Remember, even shortly after release there were stores that had nto actualy sold all theri units, generaly due to horrible bundles). And soon after the new year we started to see them rather regularly (obligatory PA <a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/02/10" target="_blank">Here</a>)
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Everything I've seen indicates 165k sell-through (as in to customers) in the UK, with significantly more shipped to stores (I believe they said up to 600k?). Supply lines are in full swing now, so they're able to ship significantly more units to stores than Microsoft or Nintendo could at their respective euro launches - apparently some 20,000+ pre-orders were never picked up, and that does mark a low percentage of total units sold, so it might not be as pretty a picture as they're painting it to be.

    Big question is how will they hold up in the long run. Aside of Japan, Europe seems the most likely place for Sony to win out in market share. PS3s are already being outsold again by the 360 and Wii in North America last I saw, which means that gap is only getting bigger here, and with no GTA exclusive in particular (plus the 360 actually retaining exclusives) I don't think they'll make that up anytime soon.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    It's delightful to know the local moron quota has been kept up while I've been away.

    Chavscum #1: <i>"You bought this yo?"
    Chavscum #2: "Narrrr man, I taxed* it from that bizschit shop"</i> *Que nasal laughing*
    *Chavscum #2 hides receipt under Burberry sofa.*

    * - taxed: Manchester slang (probably out of date by the time I write this) for stolen, or pilfered.

    Why, you idiots, why? We might as well put up a giant sign that's visible across the Atlantic:
    <b>Please s**t on us more. We'll take anything you pass us, and we'll still pay!</b>

    - Shockwave
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    Geek1: Hey, do you want a PS3?
    Geek2: No... I'm still bored with mine... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1617730:date=Mar 29 2007, 05:11 PM:name=Shockwave)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shockwave @ Mar 29 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]1617730[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    It's delightful to know the local moron quota has been kept up while I've been away.

    Chavscum #1: <i>"You bought this yo?"
    Chavscum #2: "Narrrr man, I taxed* it from that bizschit shop"</i> *Que nasal laughing*
    *Chavscum #2 hides receipt under Burberry sofa.*

    * - taxed: Manchester slang (probably out of date by the time I write this) for stolen, or pilfered.

    Why, you idiots, why? We might as well put up a giant sign that's visible across the Atlantic:
    <b>Please s**t on us more. We'll take anything you pass us, and we'll still pay!</b>

    - Shockwave
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    Its because Europe isn't a real continent. As far as Sony, and a lot of Japanese game developers are concerned, the market for computer games worldwide consists of Japan and America. Everything else is just small change. Forgetting for a second that Europe is rapidly gaining on the U.S in terms of video game consumption...

    Hey ho, it could be worse. We could be in Australia or New Zealand...
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    Well, concering the MMO market, europe is bigger than the US anyway. Can't beat asia though... they just have to many people over there.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1617751:date=Mar 29 2007, 06:33 PM:name=Tyrain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tyrain @ Mar 29 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]1617751[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Well, concering the MMO market, europe is bigger than the US anyway. Can't beat asia though... they just have to many people over there.
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    And also they have Korea, where people are issued Starcraft at birth.
  • SmoodCrooznSmoodCroozn Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22310Members
    I guess hotcakes don't sell.
  • LokeTheSleekPeruvianLokeTheSleekPeruvian Join Date: 2003-08-21 Member: 20054Members
    I'm thinking of gettting a PS3 in the next few months, but what I'm gonna have to do is buy it somewhere in the US and bring it here which unfortunately means customs will charge me 10-20% but it sure beats the price of 1000 USD (people are actually buying it)
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    I'm not getting a PS3 before august. By then, there should be some games out and a price drop arround the corner.
  • Sub_zer0Sub_zer0 Join Date: 2004-05-09 Member: 28569Members
    It's over priced and masive, ps3 deserves to die and burn to the ground.
  • RustySpoonRustySpoon Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18069Members
    edited April 2007
    I really don't even see how the Ps3 is considered competitive. I'm actually a sony fanboy (bought ps2 at launch like a billion others), yet I'd never touch a ps3 even with a long stick. It's decent at everything, yet good at nothing, is how I feel about it.

    If I was in the market for a next gen console, it'd be the Wii no doubt.
  • RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1618127:date=Apr 1 2007, 10:25 AM:name=RustySpoon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RustySpoon @ Apr 1 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]1618127[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I really don't even see how the Ps3 is considered competitive. I'm actually a sony fanboy (bought ps2 at launch like a billion others), yet I'd never touch a ps3 even with a long stick. It's decent at everything, yet good at nothing, is how I feel about it.

    If I was in the market for a next gen console, it'd be the Wii no doubt.
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    I already have a wii, but will be buying the ps3 for a couple of games (including assassin's creed, armored core 4, heavenly sword, heavy rain, devil may cry 4, littlebigplanet, god of war 3, etc). I'm waiting until the 20gb version has been released around here. Anyway, it's overpriced as **** here. 60gb version = 600$ in the US and 600€ here. 600€ = 800$, gfg.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Assassin's Creed and Devil May Cry 4 are also on the Xbox 360. It wouldn't surprise me if many others jumped the 'exclusive' ship though as a good many have already.

    I dunno... I'm still not convinced there's any games I care about on it. I try to be at least a lil unbiased but I still struggle to understand what's going on here.

    I overheard a Game Staff member saying to a customer "Yeah, we still have some left. It's only because of the price really".

    Even at a reasonable price I doubt I'd currently buy it personally. I need games, not games platforms :p
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    For me, the ultimate playstation game has always been and probably always will be wipeout. I've played every version of it on every console sony have produced and I'll probably be tempted to buy it for the ps3 when it comes out. No other racing game has ever come close to matching wipeout.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1618364:date=Apr 2 2007, 01:40 PM:name=puzl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 2 2007, 01:40 PM) [snapback]1618364[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    For me, the ultimate playstation game has always been and probably always will be wipeout. I've played every version of it on every console sony have produced and I'll probably be tempted to buy it for the ps3 when it comes out. No other racing game has ever come close to matching wipeout.
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    Also why I bought a PSP Harry, it just suits the PSP platform so damn well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
  • exoityexoity Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14620Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    If the PS3 was cheaper, I would pick it up in a heart beat (but only for its exclusives). It has Metal Gear Solid, I mean come on, I may buy it at its ridiculous price now so I have one when MGS4 comes out. Not to mention GT and Tekken.
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Even a week after the launch, infact to this day, I can still walk in and buy a PS3 in the UK (well at least in Glasgow).

    I work in the local LAN cafe and so far 1 person knows someone with 1 and 1 of our customers has one, the rest dont seem to want one.

    Iv seen signs in loads of shops saying they still have PS3 in stock, I doubt the next shipment will have nearly as many to the shops if they still have units remaining fast approaching 2 weeks after launch.
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    Grand Theft Auto 4 also is coming to X360 as a plain release, instead of how they normally do them (released months later after the Playstation release).
  • BeastBeast Armonkyi Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15731Members, Constellation
    Funny.. even now In England it's a pain to try and get a Wii..
    yet.. only about a week after the ps3 release and.. they still have them in stock...


    What gives?
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    165K? Don't believe (SIX)AXIS propaganda!
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    hmmm... seems the following week after launch, Sales have dropped by 82%.

    Sony were unavailable for comment :p
  • laggerlagger Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1805Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1617672:date=Mar 29 2007, 06:35 AM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Mar 29 2007, 06:35 AM) [snapback]1617672[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    That is what they were doing with the NA numbers, always reporting shipped instead of sold. Remember, even shortly after release there were stores that had nto actualy sold all theri units, generaly due to horrible bundles). And soon after the new year we started to see them rather regularly (obligatory PA <a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/02/10" target="_blank">Here</a>)
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    Thats because sony is payed per unit shipped to retailors, ie: as far as they are concerned shipped = sold. Ie: the stores should be well stocked from the information.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1618999:date=Apr 5 2007, 12:00 AM:name=lagger)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lagger @ Apr 5 2007, 12:00 AM) [snapback]1618999[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Thats because sony is payed per unit shipped to retailors, ie: as far as they are concerned shipped = sold. Ie: the stores should be well stocked from the information.
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    Hardly. To Microsoft and Sony, shipped is trash. Sold is what they need. Sold means at least one game bought, which begins recouping their costs. Considering that MS loses something like $100 to $200 a console(or at least, at launch thats how it was- they may break even, or even be making a profit, now, especially considering the extra factories getting opened soon), that means they need to sell somewhere between 2 and 4 games just to get the strength of the console out- and thats considering sales as 100% royalty, not the 20 or 30% royalty in actuality. The PS3 still to this day "officially" costs over $1k to make- thats a vast, vast amount of money, and they are <i>praying</i> they can make that money back in 6 years time- Major Nelson said something about MS breaking their losses sometime in october/november of last year(unofficially), but Sony's big out is gonna take months upon years to recoup.

    The Wii though, is profit-per-box. They really do care about shipped, though lucky for them, with most of the great titles for the Wii being first party, they really don't care how the customer decides to spend their money.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    Amazon.co.uk, play.com and game.uk.com all show PS3's in stock and ready for immediate shipping also.


    This makes me pretty happy.
  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1618815:date=Apr 4 2007, 07:28 AM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Geminosity @ Apr 4 2007, 07:28 AM) [snapback]1618815[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    hmmm... seems the following week after launch, Sales have dropped by 82%.

    Sony were unavailable for comment <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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    The same pattern is true of Australasia as well.
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