Constellation members and NS2

KainTSAKainTSA Join Date: 2005-05-30 Member: 52831Members, Constellation
edited March 2007 in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Not about beta testing</div>I'm curious if the Constellation system will still be in effect once NS2 is released? The point of donating (for me at least) was to support NS because it was free. But once people have paid for NS2, I doubt they will feel obligated to donate unless it gets them something. Are there any NS2 specific Constellation features in the works? In game icons would be nice as before but maybe a slight modification to the marine models (such as a patch on the arm) might be enough to get some people to pay up if there were other features included and/or the minimum donation was lowered.

Incidentally I finally got around to donating when I was bothered to sign up for paypal but I guess this system is broken? (no effect on board or in game). Oh well my conscience is still clear from finally paying flayra for the thousands of hours of fun he has given me <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • ChocolateChocolate The Team Mascot Join Date: 2006-10-31 Member: 58123Members
    Eh, not a bad idea, its one of the classics but is effective. Im not sure if i'd be a dramatic difference, because once people have so much fun with NS2, they'll donate for the heck of it. The rest wont donate just because they dont got paypal or whatnot (like me). But, if it can convince 1 person to come donate, i think i'd be worth it.

    I'm not sure if anything is in the works. Its kinda early, they are more focused on the game itself for now.
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  • BuzzouBuzzou Join Date: 2006-12-14 Member: 59056Members, Constellation
    i think the idea about constie members getting a different marine model is an excellent idea. kinda like the difference between storm troopers and those snow troopers in star wars, although the diffference shouldnt be that great. just make it look a little bit cooler, like a TSA commando or special forces soldier.....

    it shouldnt effect gameplay whatsoever, just make normal players jealous of the new model, giving them an extra incentive to sign up. "oooh look at that different heavy armor! how did you get it? i want one!"
    by making the constellation more visible ingame, we will definately get more members signing up.

    and yeah, even if its just a small patch on the arm or something similar, i'd be happy with that =)

    there shouldnt be any changes to the alien models for constie members. apart from the pain of having to remodel all of the different alien types, the actual constellation organization is an offshoot of the TSA (or something like that, i forget the official fiction), so therefore only marine models should change.
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  • KainTSAKainTSA Join Date: 2005-05-30 Member: 52831Members, Constellation
    edited March 2007
    Yeah I definetely agree changes to the alien models would be way too arduous of a task. You could try to come up with something else for them though, like maybe a sound that's funny/scarey that only they can play. It'd be a way to let other aliens know that you know what you're doing <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />

    I'd probably donate for stupid stuff like that
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  • w00tiew00tie Join Date: 2006-10-30 Member: 58099Members, Constellation
    it cut be pretty nice <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> or just give the constellation members amx on all servers they joining <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    for alien players what about just adding something like an alien counterpart to a patch, like something that can be added just on the skin like glowing eyes which is only visible to other aliens. or maybe something simple like a row of short spikes down its spine.
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  • WyzcrakWyzcrak Pot Pie Aficionado Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10447Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    I like the eyes idea, as it's purely aesthetic. I don't want my opponent's hitbox changing due to his donation.
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    I'd like to see each side get their own 'emote' (The marine's one should defiantly be a cowboy-esque "YEEEEEHAWWW!!!" xD) and a slight variation on their model.
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  • J!J! NS2 Artist Join Date: 2004-11-14 Member: 32788Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    Having a different CM skin for marine models sounds like a good idea to me, though it would have to be subtle, like a badge of some sort. Keep in mind that we won't be able to make changes that affect gameplay, such as a different model or significantly different skin. I don't know how we would change the alien skins for CMs, though. Any ideas?
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  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    well my spikes suggestion would be very small spikes, like the gorge spikes. nothing that would change the bounding box. but i think the glowing eyes only visible to aliens would be cool. or if there is a possibility of all aliens eyes glowing even visible to marines, which would look neat, then maybe make the consti eyes glow a different color
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  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1615005:date=Mar 16 2007, 07:50 PM:name=Buzzou)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Buzzou @ Mar 16 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]1615005[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> i think the idea about constie members getting a different marine model is an excellent idea. kinda like the difference between storm troopers and those snow troopers in star wars, although the diffference shouldnt be that great. just make it look a little bit cooler, like a TSA commando or special forces soldier.....

    it shouldnt effect gameplay whatsoever, just make normal players jealous of the new model, giving them an extra incentive to sign up. "oooh look at that different heavy armor! how did you get it? i want one!"
    by making the constellation more visible ingame, we will definately get more members signing up.

    and yeah, even if its just a small patch on the arm or something similar, i'd be happy with that =)

    there shouldnt be any changes to the alien models for constie members. apart from the pain of having to remodel all of the different alien types, the actual constellation organization is an offshoot of the TSA (or something like that, i forget the official fiction), so therefore only marine models should change. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hey! I like that idea!
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  • N_3N_3 &#092;o/ Join Date: 2004-03-12 Member: 27291Members, Constellation
    more or different coloured carapace is a pretty simple alien modification, or perhaps have red blood on their claws etc.
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  • Femme_FataleFemme_Fatale Join Date: 2005-06-21 Member: 54310Members, Constellation
    make the eyes on kharaa shine red instead of yellow ?
    that or make the alien infestation on the models slightly heavier ?

    small subitle mods for kharaa that implies CM gameplay.
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  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    great idea

    Marines - maybe put laser sight on the marine pistol model and helmet (like on the ns menu background)- very short so that it doesnt affect gameplay, Heavy armour with an golden eagle across the chest or something would be awesome (like W40K)

    Aliens - glowing red eyes and green drooling mouths <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />

    maybe change the colour of healspray for gorges and the colour of nanite effects for when the commander does things
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  • echsechs Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11568Members, Constellation
    I'd just prefer the constie icon, perhaps a different colour, with a little 2 in the top right corner. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />
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  • Femme_FataleFemme_Fatale Join Date: 2005-06-21 Member: 54310Members, Constellation
    well would be cool if you got custom models
    but its not a must.
    im happy with a small icon <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    Neat ideas. I'm pretty sure the Constellation program will go away once we're selling NS2 (and probably before then). I do like the idea of those customized visuals though so maybe we can figure out a way to make them work.
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  • BuzzouBuzzou Join Date: 2006-12-14 Member: 59056Members, Constellation
    awesome, glad to hear you like it <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />

    i'm not sure why you would want to remove the constellation program when it is a good source of easy revenue, but i'm sure you would have valid reasons behind the decision.

    if these custom visuals are implemented, could they be applied on the marines only? not only do i think changing the aliens appearance slightly would look a bit gimmicky, it doesnt fit in with the official constellation history.

    for those of you that havent read it yet, here's the link...
    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/static/world/constellation.html" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/static/wor...stellation.html</a>
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  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    edited March 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1615827:date=Mar 20 2007, 12:54 PM:name=Flayra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Flayra @ Mar 20 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]1615827[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Neat ideas. I'm pretty sure the Constellation program will go away once we're selling NS2 (and probably before then). I do like the idea of those customized visuals though so maybe we can figure out a way to make them work.
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    OMG so if it goes away and i buy NS2 i lose my icon?555555555

    if the constie programs ends i still say icons for NS2 for original NS doators should get transfered over to NS2 servers etc.
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  • PrefixPrefix Éirinn go Brách Join Date: 2006-12-31 Member: 59353Members, Constellation
    edited March 2007
    This is a realy nice idea. A small patch on the arm of a marine model with the logo would be perfect imo.

    And bye bye logo when NS2 is realesd :'(
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  • PastryTheftPastryTheft Join Date: 2006-12-28 Member: 59290Members
    constelation should give you a taunt emote, not like the chuckle or marine quotes, but an acuall animation <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /> like flippin a knife around his hand or somethin
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  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    All aliens eyes should glow regardless of CM status <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />. Also if they could move or 'twitch' or something would be cool. I'm thinking of the icthy creature from hl2.
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  • tigersmithtigersmith Join Date: 2004-11-11 Member: 32749Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=1616863:date=Mar 25 2007, 03:12 PM:name=aeroripper)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(aeroripper @ Mar 25 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]1616863[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    All aliens eyes should glow regardless of CM status <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />. Also if they could move or 'twitch' or something would be cool. I'm thinking of the icthy creature from hl2.
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    yea how about a crazy blinking eye haha sickkk
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  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    How about a scar over one eye on the kharaa model? And if the eyes glow that one is dimmer? Maybe that's too anime-ish but I think it would look awesome. Just having an older/more battle scarred model for either side would be cool. "Hey you gorges, get off my lawn!"
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