Whatever happened to marine vs marine?
CrankyCookie
Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11604Members
Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11604Members
I dunno if I'm touching a sore spot or if this has already been refuted but I thought (year or two ago) that NS was going to come out with a marine vs marine / alien vs alien mode... whatever happened to that or was that just wishful thinking on my part?
anyways, the point is, that game mode in NS2 would be awesome. or has it already been announced?
anyways, the point is, that game mode in NS2 would be awesome. or has it already been announced?
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The game is balanced for MvA, and nothing else...
wait wait wait, how would it be unbalanced to play a team EXACTLY like yours?
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Good point.... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
what i'm trying to say is the gun damage and armor has been set up for fighting aliens, not marines.
the reason why i hate playing MvM combat is that you die really really quickly from pistols, hmg's etc. the grenade launcher was just rediculous and was later removed in the mod i played.
basicially you spawn, 2-3 marines on the other team spot you, and within 5sec you're dead from pistol headshots... the maps are so small you never last long, even with upgrades.
if they dev's worked on it they could take their time and tweak it better, but because it will most likely me a modification, it will end up being pretty much the same.
i must admit i've also had some quality fun playing it, but it got old pretty quick.
MvM classic would be pretty cool to try out, i'd love to siege another marine base....
sure its perfectly balanced, but maybe not realistic or... um.. dunno
what i'm trying to say is the gun damage and armor has been set up for fighting aliens, not marines.
the reason why i hate playing MvM combat is that you die really really quickly from pistols, hmg's etc. the grenade launcher was just rediculous and was later removed in the mod i played.
basicially you spawn, 2-3 marines on the other team spot you, and within 5sec you're dead from pistol headshots... the maps are so small you never last long, even with upgrades.
if they dev's worked on it they could take their time and tweak it better, but because it will most likely me a modification, it will end up being pretty much the same.
i must admit i've also had some quality fun playing it, but it got old pretty quick.
MvM classic would be pretty cool to try out, i'd love to siege another marine base....
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True, once the hmg's and jetpacks come in, it gets really lame.
And by the way, MvM classic allready exists, you just don't see any servers with it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
MvM classic is still in development and for all practical purposes does not exist yet.
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Hmm... Sorry but you are wrong: I have already played MvM classic. But maybe that was an unofficial plugin...
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Maybe, but shooting turrets with a LMG is a bit strange <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
Let's say it's in a double-beta state. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
Marines can shoot, but they either trade off accuracy for rate of fire or rate of fire/ammo capacity for accuracy and damage.
Aliens can clear distances fast, but marines cannot so they`ll end up having a prolonged firefight with two marines shooting each other from far away[closing in would probably be suicide or disadvantageous at best] with commanders medding them, neither gaining ground.
And then all the strategy around taking and holding hives becomes moot, as there are no more hives to hunt and hive positions generally being less strategic than double nodes in terms of map location. And how do marines gain victory over another? And what`s to stop two commanders from sieging each other simultaneously?
what if there was Marine and Alien VS Marine and Alien, or two marine teams vs two alien teams- or something with more than 2 teams? Kind of like TFC Murderball
Marine and Alien VS Marine and Alien
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Normally, if you respect the NS history, marines and aliens are not really friends...
Normally, if you respect the NS history, marines and aliens are not really friends...
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Though a lot of us like the idea of them on the same side.
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Do you mean MIX the universes ??
Like Kharaa vs aliens ?
And how will we be able to know if the alien is in our side ? Will there be blue and red Kharaa, like in MvM ? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
Oh... I just wonder... How did they do in Aliens VS Aliens map ? I've never played on this kinda map...
And about the comic, the Kharaa will have to adapt their healspray for TSA-Marines, if they wanna join them... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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Like Kharaa vs aliens ?
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= Aliens VS Aliens => it already exists <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
Rather Aliens VS Counter-Aliens <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
*The Hive has been planted* Bip... Bip... Bip... Bip.. Bip.. Bip. BipBipBibibibiibibiibibp SCHLAF *Kharaa wins"
you are wrong
Marine vs Marine does exist on classic maps
i made it working and it is included in the official MvM plugin
as to my knowledge there are one or two things that are bugged but you almost never notice them and they do not affect gameplay
@Depot
you are wrong
Marine vs Marine does exist on classic maps
i made it working and it is included in the official MvM plugin
as to my knowledge there are one or two things that are bugged but you almost never notice them and they do not affect gameplay
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Good deal. If you have an ns_mvm map, how about letting us host it at modNS? Also, afaik, we need to publicize this if it's working correctly. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />
it is already released, see offcial thread <a href="http://www.nsmod.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=1910" target="_blank">HERE</a>
but i do not have any good maps ( only testing maps )
it is already released, see offcial thread <a href="http://www.nsmod.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6694" target="_blank">HERE</a>
but i do not have any good maps ( only testing maps )
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Your link is to the ExtraLevels 3 thread. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
but again : <a href="http://www.nsmod.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=1910" target="_blank">HERE</a>
Can't really say much..... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
The maps had been made for MvA, which is noticeable as the red marines have got trouble with map control. (cant acess vents etc).
It's a rush for jetpacks.... first one who has them wins. If both get them at the same time, then it's pretty much never going to end.
i am playing MvM on ns_eclipse with my on the fly converter
also just fixed some of those unnoticable bugs <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />