Steam only?

GoldenprizeGoldenprize Join Date: 2006-11-05 Member: 58379Members
edited December 2006 in NS2 General Discussion
Is it possible to buy Natural Selection 2 in stores?
Or only over steam?
Because i hear you made Natural Selection 1 for testing your game idea.
So i think you think before you start NS2, how you sell your second "real" game.
We had in germany problems with normal banking (non creditcard) buying over steam <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
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  • tigersmithtigersmith Join Date: 2004-11-11 Member: 32749Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter
    <!--quoteo(post=1592591:date=Dec 27 2006, 11:46 AM:name=Goldenprize)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Goldenprize @ Dec 27 2006, 11:46 AM) [snapback]1592591[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Is it possible to buy Natural Selection 2 in stores?
    Or only over steam?
    Because i hear you made Natural Selection 1 for testing your game idea.
    So i think you think before you start NS2, how you sell your second "real" game.
    We had in germany problems with normal banking (non creditcard) buying over steam <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
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    you can use paypal now on steam
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  • BeastyBeasty Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58188Members
    Whats the current fan base for NS? Anyone know the aproxmate users that have NS installed?
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  • cerberus414cerberus414 Join Date: 2005-05-07 Member: 51098Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited December 2006
    Probably around 5,000.

    At its peak, I think it might have reached 50,000
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  • GoldenprizeGoldenprize Join Date: 2006-11-05 Member: 58379Members
    edited December 2006
    <!--quoteo(post=1592595:date=Dec 27 2006, 06:26 PM:name=tigersmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tigersmith @ Dec 27 2006, 06:26 PM) [snapback]1592595[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    you can use paypal now on steam
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    not for steam, that is the bullish.
    Ebay works fine, but with steam and germany cant buy...
    But it would be great if natural selection 2 come in stores.

    @Beasty
    there is a big fanbase for ns...but the most people wait for NS2.
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  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1592595:date=Dec 27 2006, 06:26 PM:name=tigersmith)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tigersmith @ Dec 27 2006, 06:26 PM) [snapback]1592595[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    you can use paypal now on steam
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    Quote from steam:

    "PayPal is not currently accepted in Germany.
    Please choose another payment method."

    I am not sure, how steam identifies the country.
    Could be IP, could be registered email. Maybe it is the OS. Anyone know this?
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  • RasulisRasulis Join Date: 2003-01-29 Member: 12910Members
    It is through the IP system. Any one can register for an e-mail any where, and the OS doesn't matter really in relaying this info.

    An IP is like the address of a computer. Country, State, City, and so on.
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  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    You can buy Red Orchestra in stores; and that had a similiar size fanbase if you compare when the two were at its peak. (In MOD format)
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  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1592659:date=Dec 28 2006, 12:55 AM:name=Rasulis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rasulis @ Dec 28 2006, 12:55 AM) [snapback]1592659[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    It is through the IP system. Any one can register for an e-mail any where, and the OS doesn't matter really in relaying this info.

    An IP is like the address of a computer. Country, State, City, and so on.
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    Are you 100% certain?

    Cause if it is through ip, you could just spoof it, or buy it through a proxy <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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  • demmdemm Join Date: 2003-09-10 Member: 20714Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Diamond
    i think the current plan is a steam only release.
    but you never know... two weeks ago i saw "The Ship" as retail boxes in stores. (it too started as HL1 mod and went to be a commercial Source mod, much like NS but only with a lot less fans of the original mod)

    and regarding the buying through steam: gabe newell already confirmed at the Leipzig GDC 06 that direct wire transfer will come to steam. <a href="http://steamreview.org/posts/paypalandwire/" target="_blank">see</a>
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  • AlexMaxAlexMax Join Date: 2004-10-07 Member: 32122Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1592724:date=Dec 28 2006, 12:53 AM:name=WaterBoy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(WaterBoy @ Dec 28 2006, 12:53 AM) [snapback]1592724[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    You can buy Red Orchestra in stores; and that had a similiar size fanbase if you compare when the two were at its peak. (In MOD format)
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    RO also won a contest that gave them two free engine licenses and a modest amount of cash split up amongst a couple of developers, so it's not like they're on the same playing-field. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • MiuSliSMiuSliS Join Date: 2006-12-30 Member: 59339Members
    edited January 2007
    I also wonder what would be the price of the game? Not only i`m not keen on buying things online, i hope it won`t be very expensive too. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
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  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    The first release will be on Steam. After that we might go into retail, depending on sales and the deal we can get on the engine.

    cerberus: We can only estimate but we think our numbers are much bigger then those.
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  • Voodo_HUNVoodo_HUN Join Date: 2006-11-29 Member: 58773Members
    it would be really nice to see an NS2 metal box on my table..
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    edited January 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1592724:date=Dec 28 2006, 05:53 AM:name=WaterBoy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(WaterBoy @ Dec 28 2006, 05:53 AM) [snapback]1592724[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    You can buy Red Orchestra in stores; and that had a similiar size fanbase if you compare when the two were at its peak. (In MOD format)
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    I'm in the South East of the UK. I've never seen Red Orchestra sold in store.

    EDIT:

    Estimating figures?

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    Obviously that includes guests, although only at a small certain period of time when the forums first came back so, your estimate Cerberus does seem 20-40x too small <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
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  • MysticalTomatoMysticalTomato Join Date: 2007-01-03 Member: 59413Banned
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    cerberus: We can only estimate but we think our numbers are much bigger then those.
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    Even these are inflated.

    <img src="http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9424/nsplayersfl1.png" border="0" alt="IPB Image" />
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  • Lt_PatchLt_Patch Join Date: 2005-02-07 Member: 40286Members
    Gamespy stats can't be takn as accurate, as much of their data comes exclusively from people who have the GameSpy Arcade program installed, which then sweeps for installed games, and reports back to the central servers. The only true way would be to get stats direct from Valve, through Steam usage on individual accounts over a fixed timespan. Then you'd get accurate results.

    Remember, not all servers show up all the time, due to routing issues
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  • MysticalTomatoMysticalTomato Join Date: 2007-01-03 Member: 59413Banned
    edited January 2007
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    Gamespy stats can't be takn as accurate, as much of their data comes exclusively from people who have the GameSpy Arcade program installed, which then sweeps for installed games, and reports back to the central servers. The only true way would be to get stats direct from Valve, through Steam usage on individual accounts over a fixed timespan. Then you'd get accurate results.

    Remember, not all servers show up all the time, due to routing issues
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    Steam says 460 NS players currently while Counter-Strike has 150k. I doubt NS hits over 1000 at peak times and certainly less than 2000 play it with any sort of regularity.
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  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    Our total audience is much bigger then the number of people playing at any given instant. For instance, I'm loved Sacrifice and would probably buy Sacrifice II if it came out, but haven't played the original in years.
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  • SteveRSteveR Join Date: 2006-12-25 Member: 59239Members, Constellation
    The fact that just under 60,000 accounts have been made for this <b>forum</b> shows me there's a big fan base. (whoo!)
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  • UnderwhelmedUnderwhelmed DemoDetective #?&#33; Join Date: 2006-09-19 Member: 58026Members, Constellation
    Among my gamer/geek friends, almost everybody knows about NS. Not all of them have played it or continued to, but it is certainly very well known for a 3rd party mod.
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  • MiuSliSMiuSliS Join Date: 2006-12-30 Member: 59339Members
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->NS is and will always be <b>free</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Seems to be a bit of a lie. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1595386:date=Jan 6 2007, 10:56 AM:name=MiuSliS)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MiuSliS @ Jan 6 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]1595386[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Seems to be a bit of a lie. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
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    NS is. Although NS2 has always come with the 'Hopefully retail game which will cost' message.
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  • MuSaMuSa Join Date: 2007-01-07 Member: 59496Members
    edited January 2007
    ns has a very nitch group of players since its so mature. I wouldnt expect there to be anywhere near as many players as for cs or any other mod that has a much smaller learning curve
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  • MiuSliSMiuSliS Join Date: 2006-12-30 Member: 59339Members
    edited January 2007
    @ Thaldarin

    Yeah figured that out long time ago. Don`t think about me as i`d be against the NS. It`s just that i have trouble purchasing it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
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  • MuSaMuSa Join Date: 2007-01-07 Member: 59496Members
    Just start saving now. about a nickel a day. and youll be able to afford it when it comes out <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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  • HatlabuFarkasHatlabuFarkas Join Date: 2005-03-09 Member: 44496Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1594239:date=Jan 2 2007, 08:03 PM:name=Flayra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Flayra @ Jan 2 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]1594239[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    The first release will be on Steam. After that we might go into retail, depending on sales and the deal we can get on the engine.

    cerberus: We can only estimate but we think our numbers are much bigger then those.
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    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
    I wanna a 0riginal BOX edition of NS:S . i do not wanna PAY across the internet. i can pay in the Shops, and markets, i have <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" /> NOT creditcard to use PAYPAL, or something like that.
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  • Voodo_HUNVoodo_HUN Join Date: 2006-11-29 Member: 58773Members
    uhm, approx how much will it cost? (in steam and in shops)
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  • KarbaKarba Join Date: 2006-09-23 Member: 58040Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Gold
    <!--quoteo(post=1598574:date=Jan 14 2007, 01:52 PM:name=Voodo_HUN)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Voodo_HUN @ Jan 14 2007, 01:52 PM) [snapback]1598574[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    uhm, approx how much will it cost? (in steam and in shops)
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    20 $ more or less.
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