Burning Crusade: January 2007

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<!--QuoteBegin-"Eyonix"+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE("Eyonix")</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->IRVINE, Calif. -- Blizzard Entertainment® today announced that the release date for World of Warcraft®: The Burning Crusade™, the highly anticipated expansion for World of Warcraft, will be in January 2007. By adding a few extra weeks to the development cycle beyond its original target date, Blizzard will be able to extend the closed beta test and further refine the new content that will ship with the game.

“We appreciate the enthusiasm surrounding World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade, and we’re excited about putting the finishing touches on all of the new content,” said Mike Morhaime, president and cofounder of Blizzard Entertainment. “We feel confident that the extra time spent polishing the game will result in the high-quality experience that our players expect and deserve.”

Blizzard began the closed-beta phase of testing on World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade earlier this month. The January 2007 release window will allow extra time for current beta testers to participate in the final stages of development and continue providing valuable feedback.

Further information on specific worldwide release dates, pricing, and other details will be announced in the near future.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Blizzard, DIAF. *Sigh*
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    The problem with World of Warcraft, is that no matter what Blizzard does, they get yelled at. Be it for adding content, not adding enough content, putting PvP, not putting PvP, delivering patches too late, putting out a patch before it's finalised...
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1571082:date=Oct 24 2006, 10:41 AM:name=Cereal_KillR)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cereal_KillR @ Oct 24 2006, 10:41 AM) [snapback]1571082[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    The problem with World of Warcraft, is that no matter what Blizzard does, they get yelled at. Be it for adding content, not adding enough content, putting PvP, not putting PvP, delivering patches too late, putting out a patch before it's finalised...
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    They themselves(Not Gamestop, not EBGames, not Best Buy, not CompUSA, Not Circuit City...) has said "2006" ever since a month after it was announced. Always 2006.

    I have many friends in the beta. They all say, that even with the 10k people on one server at peak times, there is no lag, whatsoever. And that the leveling experience to 70 is fine. The only thing left to wonder about, is if the raids aren't done, or the PvP system isn't finished.

    Regardless, this now throws the entire thing into question. So their in beta? The 'beta' for Warcraft 3 was a year and a half long. WoW was in 'beta' for almost 2.

    Now, I tend to believe the people on the forums saying, "YEAH! GO Q4 2007! WOOT!"
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    I think that if they release it too early, you'll see "omg, hunters don't see anymore raids" or "blizz, don't do half-cooked patches, druids still sux" or "lol, priest=healbot for sure now" threads in much greater proportions than the amount of people who will whine and say "gg, blizz, I quit if you can't put up with your schedules" in the next month.

    That said, I also find it a bit annoying, but I don't care all that much, it's just that I believe that Blizzard gets yelled at way too much compared to the amount of effort they did give. (say, compared to EA?)
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1571098:date=Oct 24 2006, 12:00 PM:name=Cereal_KillR)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cereal_KillR @ Oct 24 2006, 12:00 PM) [snapback]1571098[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I think that if they release it too early, you'll see "omg, hunters don't see anymore raids" or "blizz, don't do half-cooked patches, druids still sux" or "lol, priest=healbot for sure now" threads in much greater proportions than the amount of people who will whine and say "gg, blizz, I quit if you can't put up with your schedules" in the next month.

    That said, I also find it a bit annoying, but I don't care all that much, it's just that I believe that Blizzard gets yelled at way too much compared to the amount of effort they did give. (say, compared to EA?)
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    I understand, and would normally agree, but with an MMO, things have gotta be a little different, as people's schedules rely on them not feeding us bullish.

    A good example: Because of the continued announcements of "Holiday 2006! Holidays 2006!" for well over a year, my guild's alliance is about to hang up the towel, now were moving forward again simply because we aren't sure when this is all gonna move- and the big guild is deciding to be a real a-hole about it, too.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have many friends in the beta. They all say, that even with the 10k people on one server at peak times, there is no lag, whatsoever. And that the leveling experience to 70 is fine. The only thing left to wonder about, is if the raids aren't done, or the PvP system isn't finished.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So, you think they are holding the release back for fun? Besides, you cant level to 70 yet in the beta, so how can people say that the leveling experience to 70 is fine?
    Looking at the phase of the beta test, it seems like there's too much to do yet for it to actually be released.

    Summasummarum. Circumstances happens, stop being a whiner.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    It's a game. Stop crying about one damned month.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited October 2006
    <!--quoteo(post=1571111:date=Oct 24 2006, 01:27 PM:name=Epidemic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Epidemic @ Oct 24 2006, 01:27 PM) [snapback]1571111[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    So, you think they are holding the release back for fun? Besides, you cant level to 70 yet in the beta, so how can people say that the leveling experience to 70 is fine?
    Looking at the phase of the beta test, it seems like there's too much to do yet for it to actually be released.

    Summasummarum. Circumstances happens, stop being a whiner.
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    You can't? Oh really? Then dang, I guess I've been lied to both on the beta forums(publically available) as well as by the various youtube videos of the content.

    They've released things on a whacky schedule before- Hunter Talents weren't even in the game(<i>at all</i>) until the Open Beta hit- a week before release.

    They would still have a month, and could still burn the CDs beforehand- their an MMO, after all(first day patch, as always).

    I'm not saying their holding it back for fun. Once again Epidemic, stop assuming I am so ignorant as to think that. What I think is, is that they are making a mistake that is both bad for business, as well as community.

    <!--QuoteBegin-"Jimmeh"+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE("Jimmeh")</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's a game. Stop crying about one damned month.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Try 2 and a half. And regardless, I once again say, this is screwing up a lot of people's schedules, and expectations.

    Note that while they say January, my expectations now of it being January are next to nil. You don't delay an MMO for it to be "ready" in a month- that'd be burning the CD, when they could do the alternative and just release a day-of-release major patch, to finish adding in what content/features they couldn't get burned on. This isn't an added layer of polish- this is a push into late Q1, if not Q2, 2007.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I know some people at my compsci course who are going to be very agitated tomorrow. I won't make comments about how Guild Wars: Nightfall is being released tomorrow. But I will be THINKING them.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    I believe there's a level 67 cap in the beta currently, I might be wrong though.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1571124:date=Oct 24 2006, 02:13 PM:name=Cereal_KillR)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cereal_KillR @ Oct 24 2006, 02:13 PM) [snapback]1571124[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I believe there's a level 67 cap in the beta currently, I might be wrong though.
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    That cap was removed last Monday, from Nihilum's posts.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    It's Blizzard. Anyone that didn't see this coming has got rocks in their head. Making long-term plans around a loosly-defined goal set by a company bent on final product perfection? Right.

    --Scythe--
  • Duff-ManDuff-Man Join Date: 2006-09-28 Member: 58045Members
    Hm, I don't know how to feel about this.

    I guess I don't have to worry about another $50 this holiday season.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    $30 is what it will cost, but then again, the extra two months you're gonna wait will run you about that much, so it's like you're buying it anyways, really.
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    <!--quoteo(post=1571114:date=Oct 24 2006, 04:37 PM:name=Jimmeh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jimmeh @ Oct 24 2006, 04:37 PM) [snapback]1571114[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    It's a game. Stop crying about one damned month.
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    QFT
    It's kinda sad that people are upset about a delay for an expansion for an MMO. Do people seriously have nothing else worth worrying about?


    <!--quoteo(post=1571121:date=Oct 24 2006, 05:05 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Oct 24 2006, 05:05 PM) [snapback]1571121[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I know some people at my compsci course who are going to be very agitated tomorrow. I won't make comments about how Guild Wars: Nightfall is being released tomorrow. But I will be THINKING them.
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    Much <3 for GW though I'll probably have to wait to pick it up. Been a bit busy lately.
  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    It is only a month or two delay, so some people can't receive it during Christmas.


    Like Cereal_KillR, if they released it ttoo early with a few bugs and less content, or if they release it later with bugs and a delay, people will yell at Blizzard.


    It's not just Blizzard, pratically every MMO's company get yelled at 24/7 by people complaning at things like delays of update, delays of patches, nerfing a class, buffing up <x class> but not buffing up <y class>, adding items that can be gotten somewhere where people who farm them for money are angry at the company, removing items that can be gotten somewhere and the price raises, etc.



    Anyway, it's not surprising and you should always expect it with any company and any game. If there are some people who want to quit but since they hear the expansion is near they don't want to quit yet; let them either quit(<i>You should always expect your MMO friends or clans to quit at some point</i>), or just temp. cancel their account(to stop getting billed) and reactivate it before it gets deleted.

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->QFT
    It's kinda sad that people are upset about a delay for an expansion for an MMO. Do people seriously have nothing else worth worrying about?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's not sad that people are upset about it, it's natural for anyone to be upset about it. On the other hand it's sad that people are getting really worked up and angry about a month or two delay.


    Waiting for releases and getting a delay or two with obtaining that item is really common, you should have something to do while waiting for stuff to be released.

    When I mean should, I don't mean suggesting that you should get something to do while waiting for stuff to be released, I mean you should already have stuff to do while you wait for things. Whether it's playing other games, exercising, cleaning stuff in the house, watching TV, or just sleeping and lucid dreaming about getting the expansion and playing it in your dream; it all works out and helps get the time to pass by.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1571180:date=Oct 25 2006, 06:05 AM:name=Petco)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Petco @ Oct 25 2006, 06:05 AM) [snapback]1571180[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    [...]It's not just Blizzard, pratically every MMO's company get yelled at 24/7 by people complaning at things like delays of update, delays of patches, nerfing a class, buffing up <x class> but not buffing up <y class>, adding items that can be gotten somewhere where people who farm them for money are angry at the company, removing items that can be gotten somewhere and the price raises, etc.[...]
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    You should see the choir of screaming, feces-hurling monkeys that is the Planetside forums. And that's for a game with, like, a few thousand subscribers or so.
  • CoolCookieCooksCoolCookieCooks Pretty Girl Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16446Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    There is <b>much</b> more to life than WoW. Seriously.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Hey, even the addicts eat. And they sleep during server downtimes and gryphon rides.
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Release games when they are ready, not when the market is ready. Blizzard are one of the games studios strong enough to dictate their own release schedules. More power to them.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1571121:date=Oct 24 2006, 11:05 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Oct 24 2006, 11:05 PM) [snapback]1571121[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I know some people at my compsci course who are going to be very agitated tomorrow.[...]
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    They were.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    What people are seeming to not understand is, this is an MMO. There are problems when you delay, etc, and have been saying a certain time for quite a while- I agree, release a game once its ready- but don't tell us "2006" for a year and a half then step back. They shouldn't have said anything in the first place. They should have learned that. And frankly, the thing IS practically ready. It has lategame issues apparently, but by the time the thing is out to ship, those will be ready- and easily put into the same day-of patch they were planning on.
  • Duff-ManDuff-Man Join Date: 2006-09-28 Member: 58045Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1571237:date=Oct 25 2006, 04:40 PM:name=Quaunaut)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Quaunaut @ Oct 25 2006, 04:40 PM) [snapback]1571237[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    What people are seeming to not understand is, this is an MMO.
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    I think that's the main reason that a delay is a good thing in some aspects. Half-baked MMO releases suck hard.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <a href="http://www.wowinsider.com/2006/10/23/blizz-bulks-up-beta-build-blood-elves/" target="_blank">I found the reason for the delay!</a>
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    Stop crying qua, would you rather them come out with an unfinished game?
  • ShoeboxShoebox Join Date: 2004-11-15 Member: 32817Members
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Of course I wouldn't. But I just wish they would have kept Carmack's policy.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Don't make games: Make tech demos.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I hate that policy. D:
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1571360:date=Oct 26 2006, 03:29 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Oct 26 2006, 03:29 AM) [snapback]1571360[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Which one's that?
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    Don't say anything about a date. It could look like 2 months, and you're completely satisfied, less than two dozen bugs left: Do. Not. Say. Even. Vague. Dates.

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Don't make games: Make tech demos.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is also a good policy, if you're known for your awesome tech demos.
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