1 Focus Bite Down A2?

nicegamemadenicegamemade Join Date: 2005-05-22 Member: 52211Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">as title</div> i was killed by a skulk with 1 bite

im armor2, full health&armor, so thats 100+70*2=240

lets say he's focus, 75*2=150<240

So is there such a thing as a headbite?

Btw the server doesnt run anything special, its combat mode and they have extra upgrades (thicken skin - hunger)

so what's it? was he cheating?
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  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    probably the server lagged just when you got killed so he bited 2 times but you didn't see that...
  • EPcreepEPcreep Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28289Members, Constellation
    edited July 2005
    there is no headshot or bite in ns if u bite a foot it does 75 same as if u bit his head

    hunger is primal scream which makes the bite more powerfull

    he could have had a lerk gassing and mabey u didnt notice or paraed u alot

    and 100+70 doesnt = 240

    and as for your dosent run extra hunger and skin are mods

    play reg ns and u wont have to deal with a uber 999 750 cara redem regen onos with perma charge focus sof cloaking celerity adrenaline silence (and xeno for all i know)
  • urinalcakeurinalcake Can&#39;t work a sound card United States Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7799Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-EPcreep+Jul 27 2005, 06:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EPcreep @ Jul 27 2005, 06:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there is no headshot or bite in ns if u bite a foot it does 75 same as if u bit his head

    hunger is primal scream which makes the bite more powerfull

    he could have had a lerk gassing and mabey u didnt notice or paraed u alot

    and 100+70 doesnt = 240

    and as for your dosent run extra hunger and skin are mods

    play reg ns and u wont have to deal with a uber 999 750 cara redem regen onos with perma charge focus sof cloaking celerity adrenaline silence (and xeno for all i know) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, he said 100+70*2 = 240?
    And I believe he is right, because.. thats math. You should try it sometime.

    However, I believe he is wrong in interpreting the in-game damage of NS. I could be wrong, but its a sneaking suspicion.
  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    leap + focus bite

    FTW!
  • EPcreepEPcreep Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28289Members, Constellation
    i am happy your post solved the whole thing oh wait it was sarcasm and not needed my bad


    and u see the * that means times like multiply mabey u should try math
  • urinalcakeurinalcake Can&#39;t work a sound card United States Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7799Members
    A) I do try math, infact I do it on a daily basis.
    B) Maybe you should try grammar and spelling. Mabey = maybe, u = you, etc, etc.
    C) You said 100+70 does not = 240. It is true, but he originally stated that 100+70*2, which does infact = 240.

    Work on that education. Please.

    Anyone remember the link to the NS Damage calculator? I lost the link when it started to be changed around a lot.
  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    What's the absorbtion rate for light armor? A primal, focus skulk bite is 195 damage but even at a 50% rate that shouldn't kill a full health and armor2 LA.

    I suspect that somebody lagged or there was some other factor involved.
  • SakutaroSakutaro Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33299Members
    either it was a hack, or you just got ambushed by 2 skulks with focus which bit at the same time
  • HuzeHuze Insightful Join Date: 2003-11-12 Member: 22724Members, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-urinalcake+Jul 27 2005, 09:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (urinalcake @ Jul 27 2005, 09:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> C) You said 100+70 does not = 240. It is true, but he originally stated that 100+70*2, which does infact = 240. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Go go Google!

    <img src='http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/363/yay4go.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
  • The_CheatThe_Cheat It&#39;s a The Cheat&#33; Join Date: 2003-11-19 Member: 23191Members, Constellation
    edited July 2005
    Order of Operations, my friend. You multiple 70 by 2 first and <b><i>then</i></b> add 100.

    Education has officially gone out the window...
  • HuzeHuze Insightful Join Date: 2003-11-12 Member: 22724Members, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    Wow. I am in fact stupid. I stand corrected.
  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    <b>P</b>arentheses
    <b>E</b>xponents
    <b>M</b>ultiplication
    <b>D</b>ivision
    <b>A</b>ddition
    <b>S</b>ubtraction

    It's your friend.
  • CheeseCheese Lork on the Clorf Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24396Members, Constellation
    lets all start a great mathematics thread weee...

    *how boring*
  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    Yes, let's disparage mathematics while using a computer.

    The community manual says that LA has an absorbtion rating of 70%. Primal scream increases damage by 30%. Focus doubles the base damage.

    75*2*1.3=195 damage

    195*0.7=136.5 damage absorbed by the armor

    That means that 58.5 damage goes straight to health.

    A primal, focus Onos can one-shot an a1 marine and comes oh so close to being able to one shot an a2 marine. 234 damage with primal and focus.
  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    edited July 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-The Finch+Jul 27 2005, 11:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The Finch @ Jul 27 2005, 11:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>P</b>arentheses
    <b>E</b>xponents
    <b>M</b>ultiplication
    <b>D</b>ivision
    <b>A</b>ddition
    <b>S</b>ubtraction

    It's your friend. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nah.

    BODMAS is better.

    Brackets Order Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction
  • joeejoee Join Date: 2005-06-18 Member: 54113Members
    edited July 2005
    i see we have a lot of mathmaticians here can anyone give us an example of <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renormalization' target='_blank'>Renormalization</a> in say a <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_electrodynamics' target='_blank'>Quantum Electrodynamics</a> problem

    google came up with nothing
  • RavatarRavatar Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22473Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-joee+Jul 28 2005, 01:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (joee @ Jul 28 2005, 01:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i see we have a lot of mathmaticians here can anyone give us an example of <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renormalization' target='_blank'>Renormalization</a> in say a <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_electrodynamics' target='_blank'>Quantum Electrodynamics</a> problem

    google came up with nothing <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's on the wikipedia page you posted, scroll down to "Renormalization in QED"...
  • CaptainHarassmentCaptainHarassment Join Date: 2005-04-18 Member: 48827Members
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/comm_manual/basic/damageCalculator.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/comm_manua...eCalculator.htm</a>
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    what is that 70 anyways, there isnt a weapon in ns that does 70 damage
  • nicegamemadenicegamemade Join Date: 2005-05-22 Member: 52211Members, Constellation
    100+70*2=240
    (100+70)*2=340
    ty

    70=a2 la
    1la=2hp

    so
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, let's disparage mathematics while using a computer.

    The community manual says that LA has an absorbtion rating of 70%. Primal scream increases damage by 30%. Focus doubles the base damage.

    75*2*1.3=195 damage

    195*0.7=136.5 damage absorbed by the armor

    That means that 58.5 damage goes straight to health.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    he's right

    btw there isnt that much lagggggggggg that time, and im sure i got owned by 1 celeb
    bunnyhopping skulk using only 1bite
    his name = [X-fall]Lazie (not so sure about this)
  • HeliocentricHeliocentric Join Date: 2005-04-24 Member: 49650Members
    if i may suggest?

    the problem is not mathematical.

    i had a person scream at me that i cheat, when i had silence and focus.

    i fired up the xeno, leaped to the rine, then bit him, a fraction of a moment later i exploded from the xeno.

    i believe that could take out a level 3 armor rine? or would that require the leap to do some damage too?

    but the end effect was plain to see, he died without hearing anything more than a rine grunt... apparently instantly.
  • RavatarRavatar Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22473Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-The Finch+Jul 28 2005, 12:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The Finch @ Jul 28 2005, 12:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, let's disparage mathematics while using a computer.

    The community manual says that LA has an absorbtion rating of 70%. Primal scream increases damage by 30%. Focus doubles the base damage.

    75*2*1.3=195 damage

    195*0.7=136.5 damage absorbed by the armor

    That means that 58.5 damage goes straight to health.

    A primal, focus Onos can one-shot an a1 marine and comes oh so close to being able to one shot an a2 marine. 234 damage with primal and focus. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The problem here is, does the armor absorb 70% of the total damage, or 70% of the damage up until the of armor is gone.
  • NGENGE Join Date: 2003-11-10 Member: 22443Members
    Perhaps a primal parasite was thrown in before the bite?
  • RoverRover blargh Join Date: 2003-09-23 Member: 21139Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-urinalcake+Jul 28 2005, 04:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (urinalcake @ Jul 28 2005, 04:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A) I do try math, infact I do it on a daily basis.
    B) Maybe you should try grammar and spelling. Mabey = maybe, u = you, etc, etc.
    C) You said 100+70 does not = 240. It is true, but he originally stated that 100+70*2, which does infact = 240.

    Work on that education. Please.

    Anyone remember the link to the NS Damage calculator? I lost the link when it started to be changed around a lot. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    [<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/comm_manual/basic/damageCalculator.htm' target='_blank'>Click</a>]

    Lag.
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ravatar+Jul 28 2005, 06:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ravatar @ Jul 28 2005, 06:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-The Finch+Jul 28 2005, 12:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The Finch @ Jul 28 2005, 12:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, let's disparage mathematics while using a computer.

    The community manual says that LA has an absorbtion rating of 70%. Primal scream increases damage by 30%. Focus doubles the base damage.

    75*2*1.3=195 damage

    195*0.7=136.5 damage absorbed by the armor

    That means that 58.5 damage goes straight to health.

    A primal, focus Onos can one-shot an a1 marine and comes oh so close to being able to one shot an a2 marine. 234 damage with primal and focus. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The problem here is, does the armor absorb 70% of the total damage, or 70% of the damage up until the of armor is gone. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    70% of the damage until the armor is gone. However, an a2 marine has enough armor to absorb that much damage.
  • wallerwaller Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28281Members
    I think that you're all looking a bti too deeply into this.
    My conclusion; You're an idiot, you've probably lost some HP along the way with parasites and spores (Which you quite obviously haven't realised) You've then got **** off and came and posted here about your upset on your max lev 50 /menu 24/7 combat server.
    TBH, you've wasted one whole lot of peoples times getting them to do all this math beacuse you're a little cry baby; "ONEONEO!!1!! HE HAX TEH ME!??!? HE KILL ME ONE BITE??? OMG I GET NANOARMOUR NOW /menu"


    Die.
  • EPcreepEPcreep Join Date: 2004-04-28 Member: 28289Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-urinalcake+Jul 27 2005, 09:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (urinalcake @ Jul 27 2005, 09:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A) I do try math, infact I do it on a daily basis.
    B) Maybe you should try grammar and spelling. Mabey = maybe, u = you, etc, etc.
    C) You said 100+70 does not = 240. It is true, but he originally stated that 100+70*2, which does infact = 240.

    Work on that education. Please.

    Anyone remember the link to the NS Damage calculator? I lost the link when it started to be changed around a lot. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    u understood the context so were is the problem

    and it once agin proves your posts have helped in this topic how
  • GoldenGolden Join Date: 2004-09-01 Member: 31169Members, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Playtester, NS2 Map Tester, WC 2013 - Silver, NS2 Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ravatar+Jul 28 2005, 08:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ravatar @ Jul 28 2005, 08:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-The Finch+Jul 28 2005, 12:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The Finch @ Jul 28 2005, 12:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, let's disparage mathematics while using a computer.

    The community manual says that LA has an absorbtion rating of 70%. Primal scream increases damage by 30%. Focus doubles the base damage.

    75*2*1.3=195 damage

    195*0.7=136.5 damage absorbed by the armor

    That means that 58.5 damage goes straight to health.

    A primal, focus Onos can one-shot an a1 marine and comes oh so close to being able to one shot an a2 marine. 234 damage with primal and focus. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The problem here is, does the armor absorb 70% of the total damage, or 70% of the damage up until the of armor is gone. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Doesn't matter whether or not armor is there.

    Every point of marine armor is worth 2 health points. On aliens its a tad different. One hive aliens each armor point is 2 health points. Two hive aliens each armor point is about 2.2 health points. Three hive aliens each armor point is worth 2.5 health points.
  • stallioNstallioN Join Date: 2005-06-21 Member: 54363Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-EPcreep+Jul 28 2005, 08:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EPcreep @ Jul 28 2005, 08:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-urinalcake+Jul 27 2005, 09:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (urinalcake @ Jul 27 2005, 09:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A) I do try math, infact I do it on a daily basis.
    B) Maybe you should try grammar and spelling. Mabey = maybe, u = you, etc, etc.
    C) You said 100+70 does not = 240. It is true, but he originally stated that 100+70*2, which does infact = 240.

    Work on that education. Please.

    Anyone remember the link to the NS Damage calculator? I lost the link when it started to be changed around a lot. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    u understood the context so were is the problem

    and it once agin proves your posts have helped in this topic how <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What are you talking about? You misread the original thread starter's post, and urinalcake corrected you because you thought he said "100 + 70 = 240", when it was really "100 + 70 * 2 = 240".
    Relax.
  • Slave_ZeroSlave_Zero Join Date: 2005-06-27 Member: 54804Members
    Chances are he was using Hunger and Focus

    he probabaly killed a few people then attcked u

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