Rebinding Lastinv

todd1Oktodd1Ok Join Date: 2004-04-19 Member: 28018Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">The curse of the Q.</div> quite simply, rebind your lastinv key.

if you use the standard wasd imput config, rebind it to something else. capslock is a nice alternative. why? most people know this, not much of a discussion really, but rebinding it free's up your left hand ring finger to strafe left (helpful for obvious reasons.)

personally, i use mouse4.

ive played hl based games for a good 5 years now. wish someone had told me. only figured this out 2 weeks ago.
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  • MouseMouse The Lighter Side of Pessimism Join Date: 2002-03-02 Member: 263Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    I use Mouse2, very nice for skulking. My only complaint with it is because I can chage now change between abilities so quickly, it's a bit hard keeping track of which I have selected. But a set of alien xhairs fixes this.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    I don't have a lastinv bound any more. <3 hud_fastswitch 1
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 22 2005, 02:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 22 2005, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't have a lastinv bound any more. <3 hud_fastswitch 1 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what does hud_fastswitch got to do with lastinv? i have it on, and i have lastinv in q
  • DarkFrostDarkFrost Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15154Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    mouse2, q is popupmenu.
  • puzlpuzl The Old Firm Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14029Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I don't use lastinv, I ended up metabolising instead of swiping or parasting instead of biting one time too many and I just gave up using it. I now use the slot keys directly and I think this style suits me a lot better.
  • LumpLump Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15558Members
    started with slot1 - 10 on "1" - "0" and never touched lastinv. Bling Bling.
  • RobertoRoberto Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14591Members, Constellation
    romano's lastinv so I always know what my actual lastinvis, bound to mouse5
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jul 22 2005, 04:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jul 22 2005, 04:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 22 2005, 02:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 22 2005, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't have a lastinv bound any more.  <3 hud_fastswitch 1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what does hud_fastswitch got to do with lastinv? i have it on, and i have lastinv in q <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thing is, hud_fastswitch 1 being on implies that you're using slot keys directly to select weapons. That's what I think...
  • airyKairyK Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11126Members
    slot1 and 2 switch
    <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->bind mouse4 "toggle_1"
    alias toggle_1 "slot1; wait; bind mouse4 toggle_2"
    alias toggle_2 "slot2; wait; bind mouse4 toggle_1"<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->

    slot1 and 3 switch
    <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->bind mouse4 "toggle_1"
    alias toggle_1 "slot1; wait; bind mouse4 toggle_2"
    alias toggle_2 "slot3; wait; bind mouse4 toggle_1"<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->

    my alternative to lasinv, works in bs 1 servers too.
  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    Bound to left ALT since 2001!
    (q on a wasd config means that while hitting lastinv you cannot strafe left at the same time... trivial, but evil nonetheless)
  • GrahfGrahf Join Date: 2004-01-21 Member: 25558Members
    I use q and it has never caused a problem...
  • slipknotkthxslipknotkthx Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 11016Members, Constellation
    Q rules. hud_fastswitch 0 ftw
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    Ah. I'm using wasd, and it turns out and I have it bound to backspace... just found out a few minutes ago <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CaptainHarassmentCaptainHarassment Join Date: 2005-04-18 Member: 48827Members
    I use WASD and Q for lastinv, it gets annoying sometimes when leap-biting but if you have fast fingers you should be able to bring your finger back to the A in time
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-2 of Eight+Jul 22 2005, 01:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2 of Eight @ Jul 22 2005, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TOmekki+Jul 22 2005, 04:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TOmekki @ Jul 22 2005, 04:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 22 2005, 02:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 22 2005, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't have a lastinv bound any more.  <3 hud_fastswitch 1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what does hud_fastswitch got to do with lastinv? i have it on, and i have lastinv in q <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thing is, hud_fastswitch 1 being on implies that you're using slot keys directly to select weapons. That's what I think... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well duh but you can use both lastinv and hud_fastswitch 1
  • TheAdjTheAdj He demanded a cool forum title of some type. Join Date: 2004-05-03 Member: 28436Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-R e n e g a d e+Jul 22 2005, 05:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (R e n e g a d e @ Jul 22 2005, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Bound to left ALT since 2001!
    (q on a wasd config means that while hitting lastinv you cannot strafe left at the same time... trivial, but evil nonetheless) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, it means switch up fingers when you press it, I have to do this all the time as any class except commander. Left handed + arrow keys FTW.

    Also note that those of us that are left handed have to use lastinv for the most part, you run out of buttons to bind stuff to on 4 button mice. I manage to have 3 slots bound as any given alien except lerk, which I use 2 + lastinv to get.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    I always rebound Q to chucke or a marine say
  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-TheAdj+Jul 22 2005, 10:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheAdj @ Jul 22 2005, 10:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No, it means switch up fingers when you press it, I have to do this all the time as any class except commander. Left handed + arrow keys FTW.

    Also note that those of us that are left handed have to use lastinv for the most part, you run out of buttons to bind stuff to on 4 button mice. I manage to have 3 slots bound as any given alien except lerk, which I use 2 + lastinv to get. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If it was not obvious, that was pertaining to the majority (right handed) of gamers. In any event, it is less effective... even with a left-handed configuration.
  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
  • GrahfGrahf Join Date: 2004-01-21 Member: 25558Members
    Actually after observing my hand I noticed that when im strafing left I use my middle finger or pinky(if im backpeddling too) for it, maybe you just lack coordination. <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RiotingNerdRiotingNerd Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20896Members
  • titaniumtitanium Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22166Members
    i find lastinv to be awful and having each weapon slot bound to a key to be much more useful
  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Grahf+Jul 24 2005, 01:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grahf @ Jul 24 2005, 01:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually after observing my hand I noticed that when im strafing left I use my middle finger or pinky(if im backpeddling too) for it, maybe you just lack coordination. <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    On a wasd layout, the ring finger falls over 'a'. If you have to continually shift your middle finger to cover left strafe/backpedal, then you lack effeciency. Though it may work after being accustomed to it, it is not as effecient as using a unique finger for each movement key, since either your forward key 'w', lacks coverage or your right strafe key 'd' (depending on how you compensate) when strafing.
  • ShadowShadow Join Date: 2004-09-01 Member: 31145Members, Constellation
    i always get confused about my slot, afther i killed that fade with spit, i never have touched lastinv again <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GrahfGrahf Join Date: 2004-01-21 Member: 25558Members
    No, actually my fingers have absolutely no problem, but I mostly use numbers keys for most things like fading or skulking.
  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    As for using the wrong weapon when using lastinv, if you check your crosshairs (and/or have custom ones) that should never happen. If I went to healspray a fade and switched and saw my spit crosshair, then I know to lastinv back to healspray and vice versa.

    Though number keys are a fail-safe way of switching weapons, they have three distinct disadvantages:
    1) they do not fall naturally under a finger in a wasd configuration, and thus require some reaching to get to.
    2) lastinv is a single key, whereas selecting by slot number can be up to 4 keys. This may prove fatal especially if, in the heat of a battle, slot1 is accidently hit instead of slot2 (to blink away as fade). Though hitting the wrong key is always a possibility, even with a lastinv key, this possibility is increased four-fold (4x) in slot number selecting since there are 4 slots.
    3) in congruence with #1, if and when you do reach for a slot key, no matter how quickly, in that period of time you have lost coverage of either the wa,s, or d keys and have disabled your ability to move forward/strafe depending on which slot you are selecting and/or whichfinger you use to select it with.
  • HeliocentricHeliocentric Join Date: 2005-04-24 Member: 49650Members
    i just got a mx1000 mouse, while i'm getting handcramps trying to reload without turning on my flashlight (i use the arrow keys btw) all my problems finding binds have faded away, so while its a ludicrous expense some would feel silly spending on a mouse (as much as 512 more ram) having ten buttons on your mouse hand really is useful and i'd say raised my game.
  • GrahfGrahf Join Date: 2004-01-21 Member: 25558Members
    edited July 2005
    Using last inv while fading makes things more complicated since you need 3 buttons. And the no matter how fast you are bull **** is just as irrelevent as the scripts are faster debate. If you use numbers normally they will feel very naturally unless you have small hands or something. :o
  • HellabeansHellabeans Universal NS Scapegoat Join Date: 2005-04-12 Member: 48269Members, Constellation
    Whatever works for you..but ive always used number keys myself
  • juicejuice Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12886Members, Constellation
    number keys... if you're good with them you can blink meta rocket the ground swipe the jp and blink around the corner without touching the ground. what else do you need?
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