Odd Fps Drops

CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
This never happend to me up untill 3.0F (all the 3.0betas worked fine)


I get like 40fps sometimes even though my rig is pretty decent for its age. (In 3.0betas and all earlier versions of NS I got 100fps constantly.)

I have a 2800+ AMD
1GB Ram
9800 XT
WinXP pro.

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  • Water_BoyWater_Boy Join Date: 2003-08-19 Member: 19951Members, Constellation
    fps_max 101 is that set? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> - dont laugh, it happened to me a while ago when i had to reinstall everything <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Water Boy+Jul 10 2005, 01:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Water Boy @ Jul 10 2005, 01:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> fps_max 101 is that set? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> - dont laugh, it happened to me a while ago when i had to reinstall everything <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yes
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    Periodic fps drops are usually indicative of poor rate settings, but as it's you CWAG, I doubt that's the case. Regardless, please post them so they can be discounted as a possible cause.

    Poor choke/loss can cause jerky-ness, but not an actual fps drop (AFAIK,) so we can drop that.

    Is the drop reproduceable? Does it always happen amoungst players/in certain rooms, or is it apparently random?
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    With lots of action, but it never happend up untill recently (I can run BF2 at 50-60fps consistently)
  • BabblerBabbler Join Date: 2005-03-15 Member: 45375Members
    I have exactly the same problem.
    By the way im not a noob, been playing since 1.4 but never got round to getting an account <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Rate: 20,000
    cl_updaterate 101
    cl_cmdrate 101
    fps_max 101

    Always used to work fine but now....

    Also my ping shoots up.
  • Water_BoyWater_Boy Join Date: 2003-08-19 Member: 19951Members, Constellation
    babler, what connection u on? i'm guessing around 512k-2mb so use rate 25000 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> or atleast try it!
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Half-life dosent go above 20,000.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Jul 11 2005, 06:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Jul 11 2005, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Half-life dosent go above 20,000. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I thought rate was locked at 99999. Perhaps that was cl_rate.
    --

    Possible solutions I've recalled / found from past threads / google:<ul><li>Taskmanager, > Process tab > R-C hl.exe > set priority to <b>below</b> normal
    </li><li>Rate settings. Please, humour us and set them to 30 30 99999 again. Interp 0 too.
    </li><li>There's a possibility it's related to network issues. Are you on a wireless network? Does your router (wired or otherwise) have heavy traffic?</li></ul>
    I can't emphasise how much this problem smells of dodgy rates.
    GL mate.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    ex_interp 0.05
    rate 20000
    cl_updaterate 100
    cl_cmdrate 60
    ex_extrapmax 2


    tried your rates and had the same problem
  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    Perhaps that was a time near another update?

    Make sure graphics and motherboard drivers are up to date, I have almost an identical system, just with a 9600 pro, and that really never happens to me.....

    If none of that works, check the 3.0 changelog to look for anything with the potential to do this, monitor netgraph to see if its a lag-spike type thing, i don't know any commands for rendering statistics, but I know in unreal you can view all the rendering specifics, check to see if something really isn't right....
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Are you on a wireless network? Does your router (wired or otherwise) have heavy traffic?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
  • BabblerBabbler Join Date: 2005-03-15 Member: 45375Members
    edited July 2005
    Ok.

    Now it regularly occurs around server messages. You know like:

    "New server up at: 12.34.5.6:27025" or whatever... also experience major lag on combat.

    Im on a 1meg broadband with freeserve. Using a 4 way router with 3 attached, normal usage:

    1 Running NS.
    1 Running WoW.
    1 Running work related sites or ebay.

    "Does your router (wired or otherwise) have heavy traffic?"

    So yes I suppose.

    Also major lag when I look at console whilst playing.
  • JaspJasp Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13076Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I thought rate was locked at 99999. Perhaps that was cl_rate.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    cl_rate is set to 9999 by default. It was also locked at some point by value I’m sure.

    Apparently can be changed now though.
  • BabblerBabbler Join Date: 2005-03-15 Member: 45375Members
    Still no awnser - I cant play halflife with the fps drops <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> its too hard.
  • InFlamesInFlames Join Date: 2004-10-22 Member: 32396Members, Constellation
    edited July 2005
    Try the following

    open ns, alt + tab out then

    ctrl+alt+delete >> process tab >> right click hl.exe >> set priority to below normal >> close task manager >> try again

    This fixed my fps drops after I spent hours playing with rates with no choke/loss but fps going mental on a decent rig. Its to do with steam being a bit *** as usual, has affected many people in most steam games, and they choose to ignore the fact its an issue.

    And if you wanna winge that lowering the process is gonna cause problems, go away learn something about how windows operates then come back and comment. Its just a matter of excessive cpu been allocated to the hl application when its not needed.

    However if your on a 486 or something around that era, do not follow this fix... it will cause issues.

    Chances are it may work, or not, but worth a go to get a stable game <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    /Edit sorry missed your post blue anyway suppose it re-emphasis the issue :/. Also do you know of anyway of making this permanent? sick of forgetting to lower the process when i fire ns up
  • BabblerBabbler Join Date: 2005-03-15 Member: 45375Members
    edited July 2005
    Maybe ask to be added to faq, dont insinuate that im going to know nothing about computers, I know quite a bit and the operating systems (I made my pc (wewt) and I have played around with linux and windows a lot) Im having trouble minimizing game to change properties (it just stalls up and closes) Ill try a few more times and report back.
    Ok tried, didnt help, tried rates again, tried the works.
    ok my router was only being used by me and still it laggs up.

    4fps lol <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • HeryHery Join Date: 2004-10-16 Member: 32293Members
    try
    <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->ati_npatch "0"
    ati_subdiv "0"<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
  • InFlamesInFlames Join Date: 2004-10-22 Member: 32396Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Babbler+Jul 20 2005, 01:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Babbler @ Jul 20 2005, 01:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe ask to be added to faq, dont insinuate that im going to know nothing about computers, I know quite a bit and the operating systems (I made my pc (wewt) and I have played around with linux and windows a lot) Im having trouble minimizing game to change properties (it just stalls up and closes) Ill try a few more times and report back.
    Ok tried, didnt help, tried rates again, tried the works.
    ok my router was only being used by me and still it laggs up.

    4fps lol <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I was insinuating nothing, more the lamers who like to jump into tech support to slam other people <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Had it with the process fix before
  • BabblerBabbler Join Date: 2005-03-15 Member: 45375Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Hery+Jul 20 2005, 06:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hery @ Jul 20 2005, 06:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> try
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    Nope nothing. Thanks for trying people.

    Have downloaded the latest drivers to no avail.

    The sooner a stand alone game the better. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • InFlamesInFlames Join Date: 2004-10-22 Member: 32396Members, Constellation
    edited July 2005
    Another thing to look into, does this happen with all your current steam games? or other mods?

    try switching from opengl > direct 3d or vice versa
  • BabblerBabbler Join Date: 2005-03-15 Member: 45375Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-InFlames+Jul 21 2005, 05:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (InFlames @ Jul 21 2005, 05:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Another thing to look into, does this happen with all your current steam games? or other mods?

    try switching from opengl > direct 3d or vice versa <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah I tried that and it worked great (someone in game told me it ^^) It still goes down to 4fps in heavy combat..
  • BulletHeadBulletHead Join Date: 2004-07-22 Member: 30049Members
    What vid card and driver set?
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