San Andreas Rating Changed From M

Caboose · July 2005

<div class="IPBDescription">to AO...</div> You've most likly heard of the fiasco involving a hidden game inn GTA:SA recently, well, so has the ESRB, and they've assigned it a rateing of AO as a result.

<a href='http://www.shacknews.com/docs/press/072005_gta_sa.x' target='_blank'>Source</a>

BTW, this topic has been DOOMed

Mad_Man · July 2005

So if there was a alyx gordon sex script in hl2 that was hidden and couldnt be used unless compiled with the sdk, then some one used one of the nude alyx skins would hl2 be rated ao?

edit : I now have a new goal.....

Abra · July 2005

OMG SEX!! TAKE IT AWAY, ITS NOT NATURAL!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

UltimaGecko · July 2005

OMG, a mod that lets you simulate sex - it's so the game maker's fault! Yea, that makes perfect sense to me...

[I don't care if it existed without the mod, it was inaccessible and therefore, might as well not exist.]

Max Payne 2 has near-realistic nudity (at least if you load the developer tools for making stuff [the Mona model for in the shower, I guess]), it's just strange to run around naked shooting people... Anyway: at least they get the first North American AO rated game (I'd think that's what it should be rated anyway...that'd probably prevent parents from buying it for kids a bit more than some monolithic M on the package).

Theslan · July 2005

So, let me guess, it's now the game maker's responsibility to make sure all mods conform to their ratings? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

This'll put a damper on mods on later games.

Freedom_Loaf · July 2005

Big deal.

Clashen · July 2005

GO HOME YOURE NOT FUNNY ANYMORE STOP IT

Pithlit · July 2005

well, we have gorgeporn in ns dot dot dot

Clashen · July 2005

hey i made some of that

Supernorn · July 2005

How exactly is this newsworthy? The game has been out for ages, and I'm pretty sure every 10-12 year old in a 30 mile radius has had it on PS2 for about a year.

OttoDestruct · July 2005

In other news, your freedom of speech is being raped.... without lube.

BaconTheory · July 2005

Crap you've beat me to it, I was just going to post this. Yeah this is definately a fiasco, and definately a bit of a shocker. Sure it was iresponsible of Rockstar to include it in the code, but comon. You can only get to it by seeking out a mod and editing stuff and any who is mature wouldn't even bother with it, because they know that this "Hot Coffee" mod is for pre-puberty idiots.

Metalcat · July 2005

eehh it was 18+ anyway? or atleast where i live, they didnt mind selling it in the store anyway, i dont think they really care, and you <insert word thats not a synomym for nice here> who thinks that only 18+ should play that game can suck my ****

DiscoZombie · July 2005

I'm totally missing something. what is this 'hot coffee' mod? why doesn't that article explain it? damn thing is all legalese...

Caboose · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Jul 20 2005, 05:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I'm totally missing something. what is this 'hot coffee' mod? why doesn't that article explain it? damn thing is all legalese...  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
It made the ESRB change the rating of a game that has been out for... how long now?

Use your immagination. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Supernorn · July 2005

Jesus, what are you guys, six years old?

<b>Its a mini-mod where you have sexual intercourse with females. (Inviting them over for "coffee" (hence the name of the mod) </b>

brute_force · July 2005

I love these people's mentality.

In a game where you can pick up prostitutes, slit their throats and take their money, shoot police officers with an AK and blow their heads off, set people on fire, steal and blow up cars, visit strip clubs, hear people say "****" every other sentence, buy illegal weapons, do gangwars, steal things from the government and more, all of a sudden sex between two consentual adults is horrible and the game needs to be re-reviewed. Not to mention that this is from a mod, that you have to search on the Internet (which, surprise suprise, contains porn and horrible things that are MUCH worse than anything in GTA:SA) and install. And any parent who claims that sex should not be viewed by children, <b>why the **** did you buy a 17+ game for your child in the first place?</b> Obviously, the game is not to blame you vapid ****. Instead of finding a scapegoat for everything, why not, oh I don't know, RAISE YOUR CHILDREN.

Also, the hot coffee mod is ridiculous. It's stupid, and the models look like freaking scarecrows (with clothes on, even). flipping media making a big deal out of everything. Arrgh.

</rant>

illh · July 2005

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the version with actual nude models only on the PC? The PS2 version has them with clothes on right?

DOOManiac · July 2005

You guys fail to realize that this doesn't matter. It's set upon by people w/ political agendas who could care less about facts. Video games aren't played by anyone over the age of 10 and no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise.

DragonMech · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (brute force @ Jul 20 2005, 05:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I love these people's mentality.

In a game where you can pick up prostitutes, slit their throats and take their money, shoot police officers with an AK and blow their heads off, set people on fire, steal and blow up cars, visit strip clubs, hear people say "****" every other sentence, buy illegal weapons, do gangwars, steal things from the government and more, all of a sudden sex between two consentual adults is horrible and the game needs to be re-reviewed. Not to mention that this is from a mod, that you have to search on the Internet (which, surprise suprise, contains porn and horrible things that are MUCH worse than anything in GTA:SA) and install. And any parent who claims that sex should not be viewed by children, <b>why the **** did you buy a 17+ game for your child in the first place?</b> Obviously, the game is not to blame you vapid ****. Instead of finding a scapegoat for everything, why not, oh I don't know, RAISE YOUR CHILDREN.

Also, the hot coffee mod is ridiculous. It's stupid, and the models look like freaking scarecrows (with clothes on, even). flipping media making a big deal out of everything. Arrgh.

</rant>  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
QFT.... Q. F. T.

Mantrid · July 2005

You know, I've often wondered how much it would cost to buy commercial time on a big network, and it would just be a guy in a white room, and he would shout at the camera brute_force's rant. I think that if I had enough money to do that, I would be very, very happy, because I could do it for all sorts of issues where people are being stupid.

DiscoZombie · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jul 20 2005, 06:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Jul 20 2005, 05:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I'm totally missing something. what is this 'hot coffee' mod? why doesn't that article explain it? damn thing is all legalese... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
It made the ESRB change the rating of a game that has been out for... how long now?

Use your immagination. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
using my imagination, I'd guess this mini-game involves using the controller to aim a virtual wang at various orifices? am I close?

I should just google it.

it's funny, this news story is more likely to bring MORE exposure, and therefore more players, to the mod than if they just ignored it.

anyone remember all the nude models for Morrowind? =P

brute_force · July 2005

Oh, by the way:

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'># ESRB assigns "Adults Only 18+" (AO) rating for current version of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas due to unauthorized third party "Hot Coffee" modification
# Rockstar Games to cease manufacture of current version of title and offer a downloadable patch to prevent modification of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for PC
# Company lowers third quarter and fiscal year guidance to reflect the expected negative impact on the title's retail performance</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

<a href='http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050720/205870.html?.v=1' target='_blank'>http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050720/205870.html?.v=1</a>

Yeah. Prevent modification.

Metalcat · July 2005

it was 18+ anyway?

but prevent mods? lets pray that noone else do that

Breakthrough · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 20 2005, 06:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You guys fail to realize that this doesn't matter. It's set upon by people w/ political agendas who could care less about facts. Video games aren't played by anyone over the age of 10 and no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
QFT. Besides, what does everyone really <i>care</i>? It's not like ESRB ratings are the law...

BaconTheory · July 2005

I'll give you some hints. It involves a fully-clothed CJ, naked women and a squeaky bed. The rest I'm sure you can imagine.

Mullet · July 2005

Big deal, it's Adult now...i'm still not buying the game

Cereal_KillR · July 2005

I thought that people 18+ were supposed to be adults, in a legal pov. Isn't mature 18+?

Narfwak · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal KillR @ Jul 20 2005, 07:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I thought that people 18+ were supposed to be adults, in a legal pov. Isn't mature 18+?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
No, 17+. Pretty stupid if you ask me. Meh, it's not like any stores other than Wal-Mart actually card people for games.

OttoDestruct · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal KillR @ Jul 20 2005, 06:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I thought that people 18+ were supposed to be adults, in a legal pov. Isn't mature 18+?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
No, because adult's surely can't vote or drive or smoke... oh wait.....

Mantrid · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Jul 20 2005, 03:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> anyone remember all the nude models for Morrowind? =P  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Anyone remember all the nude models for just about every damn game ever since we had 3D?

I'll bet you can find naked models that people have made for almost every game rated at least Teen. Neverwinter Nights had them, Half Life 2 had them, et cetera.

San Andreas Rating Changed From M

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