Doom 3 Marine
RedI
Join Date: 2004-08-09 Member: 30478Members
Join Date: 2004-08-09 Member: 30478Members
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Isn't your signature a tad bit large? How come the admins are allowing such a large signature?
[ADD] this is where i found it (on Doom planet forums) found a video of it in action click <a href='http://www.romeojguy.com/gungrave/doom3.wmv' target='_blank'>here</a> to see it
I think it's because they thought it was so cool that they had to allow it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ok first of all, i know doom 3 uses normal maps, so does hl2, im fully aware that the hl1 engine doesn't support normal maps, so don't try and insult me, second whats the need for that comment? it's my sig not urs, urs looks like a pile of crap but i didn't want to insult you (obviously u need it.)
anyways,
I have seen the doom marine in Half-life (NOT NS) and it looks quite good, better than the normal NS marine.
the short answer is, usually. If the game has any form of mod community, usually you can convert the game's models to a common format to allow you to import it into a 3d application.
But before you start ripping models out of every game newer than Quake II, keep these things in mind.
1. If you plan on releasing it to the public, don't do it. Other game companies might allow those models used in mods for their own game...but it is illegal to use those models outside the game. Granted, this is not usually enforced, but you are taking the chance.
2. just because you can get your hands on a model, and a skin...doesn't mean that you can just easily slip it into any other game. Remember, modeling and skinning something is between 25% to 75% of the work involved in developing a game. and "ripping" it out of such a piece of hard work would be just respectless.
3. it sounds stupid...but it would be theft of intellectual property you have not paid to play with.... and even if you have paid for it ,the software is still property of the developers, included sounds ,models,textures,and all other copyrighted material. you own just the dvd..the handbook...and a cardoard box maybe. it would be something different if you own d3 yourself, and you are doing your own model port. or do the hard way and model it from scratch,
I cannot imagine it being more than 10-15% of the game development. My friend is a programming student. And he says game development is around 90% programming and 10% modeling. But I guess that depends on what kind of game you are making?
I cannot imagine it being more than 10-15% of the game development. My friend is a programming student. And he says game development is around 90% programming and 10% modeling. But I guess that depends on what kind of game you are making? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ive said 25% to 75%..
depends if you do a fullgame with own engine or a mod with some coding work ...
But I guess if you only count the work you do by working with a premade engine then I guess modeling is pretty much all you have to do.
But personally I dont call that game developing.
games like mohaa , rtcw ,deus ex , vtmb, kingpin and other games using licensed engines?
who cares about the coding anyway, we are talking about ripping models, and not a very vague estimation i did.
Also,think about this.The Unreal 2.5 and 2.0 engine is WIDELY used by games everywhere,released by companies from different sides of the world,but really,think about it.Aren't all the games useing the unreal 2.0 engine,then,just mods of UT2004/UT2003 released in a nice package that you pay for?The answer,yes.Indeed they are,try to prove me wrong,besides some legal BS anyone can make a "full scale 100 level game!!1!!1!!" for the unreal 2.0 engine,even a game that completely rebuilds the unreal 2.0 engine...
browse some of the mods for UT2004,some are pratically completely new games without legal issues,and without a nice package...but guess what,it has a bigger community then a legally released game with a nice package because if it didn't,the mod would fall under from not being supported...
I don't call it game development if all you did was 10-40% of the game.
And you who wrote last, Chub or soming, should really learn how to use spaces properly. It's nearly impossible to read your latest post.
And to me it made no sense at all, but perhaps thats just me.
the 2nd paragraphs just go on to say that aren't any games that use existing engines techanically just mods in a nice package without legal issues?
Please. Where did you get the idea that I tried to insult you?
I just stated a fact that it wouldn't look so good without the normal-maps.
The signature -thing was a cruel joke. That's because you were talking about it earlier in the thread.
Even though there's no smileys, it doesn't mean people are trying to insult you.
Please. Where did you get the idea that I tried to insult you?
I just stated a fact that it wouldn't look so good without the normal-maps.
The signature -thing was a cruel joke. That's because you were talking about it earlier in the thread.
Even though there's no smileys, it doesn't mean people are trying to insult you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
good good just aslong as we are clear on that. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> or else ..... <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> heh
well someone mentioned that the game engine is most of the work in a game, that is not true, the game engine allows features like normal maps, bump maps, specular, game physics, and other stuff. models are the main factor in a game, imagine playing CSS maps like Assault, Inferno, and Port, it would be so basic and would look very dead. Models help bring the world to life, yes game physics and water, etc... do that but without models then the realism factor is not there.
anyways back on topic, L0tus mentioned that he had the Doom 3 Marine as a human grunt on Half-life, this could help, this way all that needs to be done is to re-animate it, or you could RIP it from HL2DM, personally i think it would be better to use the one thats already being used in the HL1 Engine.
Check there you might see some <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->