Stop being marines!

thedraft · November 2002

seriously.

every game i go into has aliens outnumberd by at least 3. whats worse, is no amount of coaxing seems to convince people to even the teams. am i mistaken, or is the game balanced so there should be slightly more aliens than marines? (maybe im just biased since its always been an uphill battle for my alien self.)

so, for the love of god people, even teams make good games. i know mariens are super keen neat-o, but give the horde a chance too.

BigEyeGuy · November 2002

i know what you mean
nomather how much im asking them
they seem to ignore me like a bot

its annoying and not fair
if it was CS or anything else this wouldnt be delt but a 2 person advantge in a strategy game is alot
nevermind that they would have evened it out if it was CS or anything else of that nature

Baal0r · November 2002

Yes I find this to be the case, lamers who cant be bothered to learn how to play aliens, or just want to use 'guns' all the time because they look cool. Twats, it annoys me that last night for about 6 of the 7 hours that I played (my first games that night and after reading the excellent online manual it took me only minutes to work out what I was doing) the aliens were outnumbered around 2-3:1. 10 vs 3 at one point, mostly 10 vs 4 or 5. The funny thing is we manage still to get 3 hives up and build hundreds of defence towers, its just that the aliens on their own should really adopt roles, its the more difficult side to play as long as the marines have a commander who isnt braindead.

Hmmm, I need to move this topic over to a rant about game balance in another forum group >>> /me clicks

Neo_Vindicator · November 2002

Wow you guys have had some bad luck joining games. Every one i have joined since I downloaded ns has been even and fair. You guys should just look on the bright side, the more you have uneven teams the faster your individual skills get better and soon you'll be able to kick the crap out of the other team. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Mr_Fruitypants · November 2002

I just got done with a 12 hour playing jag on about 4 or 5 different servers. Without a single exception the teams would be 11-13 marines versus 7-9 aliens. I checked teams every death and I never once saw aliens outnumber marines, or have even teams. Even when alien players dropped they wouldn't switch. There were quite a few games that ended 17 marines versus 3 aliens. It disgusted me so much I finaly went lamer and deadlocked a map for an hour by hiding where they couldn't find me for the cheap kill to end the round. It's really sad because the mod is great and has a lot of subtlty built in. To bad people have to wreck it by playing.

I hate to say it but I think they really need to add something that'll calculate team disparity and stengthen/weaken attacks and armor accordingly. I realize it's the first day of realease, but I don't see people changing on a fundamental level anytime soon. Regardless, heavy armor needs tuned down.

greyfox5 · November 2002

Yes, this is big deal. I hate having to deal with people who only want to play marines, its very frusterating morphing to a lvl 5 and being torn apart with 12 marines with lmg's.....I think thias was the lvl 5's shortest lifespan, 10 seconds....i killed 2.....
people need to notice that marines need only ONE extra player...because they have a commander, thats how we pt'd and that was great.

Stalker · November 2002

I think that the aliens will proove to be the superior force, once peeps learn how to exploit all their advantages. Give it some time, they'll come around.

And in the meantime you (and other alien peeps) can gain a significant advantage with the amount of practice you'll get.

GoLambo · November 2002

There is not "practice" in being slaughtered whole handedly.

I'm really, really, really MAD right now. All night and morning I’ve been playing this game its been like 17 marines vs 11 Aliens EVERY TIME!!!!!

<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

Alex7 · November 2002

You should only be able to choose your team if they are already even. If not, you will have to join the one with fewer players. This goes for all team-based mods.

I've seen several (non NS) servers that only let you choose 'auto select' and a server script puts you where you belong. If dropped players make the teams too uneven, some are autoswitched (an inconvienience, but it's for the greater good). I don't suppose NS could have something like this built-in?

HavoK · November 2002

I really love this game, and so far this is my only complaint. I have been playing non-stop for 3 hours today. I am not exaggerating at all when I say the average game was 5 Aliens vs 10 marines. I just got through spectating an entire game of 4 Aliens VS 10 Marines. That is just insane.

I did play a couple of 6 Aliens VS 9 Marines and these were pretty fun, even though we were still outnumbered.

Is team balancing an Admin option, or just not included? I can only guess that the devs didn't want to force people to play a certain team if they didn't really want to. But I think that is better than forcing one subset of players to give up playing out of frustration. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

Oh well ... back to gorging.

Vincent · November 2002

this is the only problem ive seen other then the 1000ping on 14player and up severs and its annoyeing as hell giveing up the commander becuase noone will go alien so you have to but i got a good following when i did

Cm_Franks · July 2005

It's that time again. Usually I use stupidity as a guise for dredging up these threads. But I'm feeling lazy tonight.

Shadow_Spork · July 2005

Yeah. Even in the ready room, most of the time people would sit at the marine side of joining the team, and wait. Whenever I choose to join Marines, it would be hard most of the time because mostly all of the people in the beginning would rush in trying to get into the marines side instead of the alien. Whenever the game begins, there would be still 6 more people waiting in the ready room for a person to join aliens so that they can join marines. If the guys don't move, then I have to force myself to play aliens. Therefore, those people join the marines so that the teams would continue to be so unf***ingeven and let the rines win in terms of not only the amount of people, but skill wise as well. Those are the things that pisses me off.

EDIT: Holy crap you're right. This is old. How did you manage to revive this old thread? Search?

Flounder · July 2005

old posts pwnzor

TOmekki · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cm Franks @ Jul 13 2005, 03:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It's that time again. Usually I use stupidity as a guise for dredging up these threads. But I'm feeling lazy tonight.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
****ing idiot

Breakthrough · July 2005

Everyone wants to be human, just to save the day <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

BadMouth · July 2005

Doesnt NS have this thing where they balance out the teams? Like if the marines have 4 players and the aliens have 3, the player has to join aliens.

ReVerthex · July 2005

We don't get marine stack what happens is one leet player joins a team then every one sits in that teams portal.
Finally one vet goes to the other team then half the people that are trying to stack join the other team then it's not so bad <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

CrazySteve · July 2005

on the servers i play on this is not a problem

BUT there are serious stacking issues

f3 ftl

eliotmat · July 2005

stacking is definitely the problem I see.

Usually whichever race the stack picks......all the noobs try to crowd.

CommunistWithAGun · July 2005

Read the date on the OP, this is talking about 1.0.

relsan · July 2005

LOL omg lock this stupid crap and stop bringing back threads from 3 YEARS AGO! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Stop being marines!

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