Commander Training

Heretic · July 2005

hello, this is my first topic on this forum...

ive played ns for a quite long time now, and i really like it... BUT, now i wanna start to play as a comm, does any1 know a smart way to train on playing comm? cuz when im on public and use the cc im getting so stressed so everything whent straight to hell <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Taz- · July 2005

Just play in pubs alot, and you'll get the hang of it. If people keep ejecting you, play in off-peak times so not as many advanced players are playing, and you'll get a better chance at it.

Practise makes perfect.

BadMouth · July 2005

Know the hotkeys, know the locations of every place. also, know choke-points. Res management is important. Do not rush all the upgrades or you will not have res for RTs. Similarly, do not just get Rts and forget about upgrades.

Do not waste res on med or ammo spam. Drop what is needed and not anymore. Pay attention when people need orders or are calling for RT/PG/TF. Do not place buildings too near each other or the CC. Mines are a better defence than turrets in the MS.

Watch other people comm as well.

Heretic · July 2005

well ok thnx for the tip, i will try it... i know the hotkeys, but im not 100% sure on witch order i should build the buildings in

ReD1 · July 2005

Depends on the game. Most imporatnt thing as comm is ability to improvise.

EPcreep · July 2005

NO TF IN BASE

q build w advanced e assist r weapon
a rt a obs a ammo a mines
s ip s armslab s health s shotgun
d armory d proto d catpacks d hmg
f cc f pg f gl
z tf z welder
x turrents x jp
c siege c ha
v reclcye

i hope this came out right

so if someone calls for a medpack its e s drop and then s,s,s,s,s if u want to spam it

Uniikki · July 2005

There are some training servers with bots which you could try. As a rule of thumb don't try comming on games where most people are above your skill level. Also, if you want to familiarize yourself with the commanding interface, you can start a server on your own simply by loading a map and activating the cheats. You can do this by entering the following commands into the console:

map ns_mapname
sv_cheats 1

You need to activate the cheats in order for the match to start with no players on the other side. Or you could ask a friend to help you try stuff out.

Regarding being stressed, don't try so much to win as to play the commander. There's nothing wrong with being a poor comm, most of us are. You'll most likely loose alot, but try to understand why you loose. Or why you win if you do. The goal is to be a flexible comm that can adapt to both his own team and the aliens.

Also, one of the best ways to learn how to comm is to watch successful comms. What do they do? In which order? How many rts do they have, how do they keep their rts up? How do they take hive down? Map control? And the most important question. Why?

There are also a lot of guides on the Frontiersmen Strategy forum. Many of them are somewhat outdated, but a good read nevertheless:

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70126' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....showtopic=70126</a>

Good luck.

coris · July 2005

Use bots for training.

J_the_battlegorge · July 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Heretic @ Jul 10 2005, 08:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> hello, this is my first topic on this forum...

ive played ns for a quite long time now, and i really like it... BUT, now i wanna start to play as a comm, does any1 know a smart way to train on playing comm? cuz when im on public and use the cc im getting so stressed so everything whent straight to hell <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Try practising comming at siege maps,
Yes, it alot easier, but atleast you get to known on quick keys etc..
Then after you've learned the basics, start comming the classics..

Or as coris said, train with bots.

Heretic · July 2005

ye i got bots, but its just one problem <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />... i havent find any bots who can play marine... so i have to run around the whole map alone...

typical_skeleton · July 2005

If you're not even sure what order to build, well... observe more closely when good commanders command.

To be honest, if you're not even confident in the order of things, you should probably wait before commanding. One of the best ways to learn is to not command, but instead observe.

I'm not a great comm or anything, but I can do it well enough... there's only so much of the interface you can learn, the important thing is knowing build orders, res management, and time management.. all of which can be learned through observation.

motsew · July 2005

Heretic: <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=95834' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....showtopic=95834</a>

Mac1OMan · July 2005

ive been comming since beta 5, and ive never known how to do this but ive seen it done. how do you make squads? also ive got in the com chair after another commander and noticed they have groups like an arms lab symbol in the top bar, how do i put objects or squads up there

Benny_Blanco · July 2005

Mac10Man,

Select some marines, and press CTRL (at least I think it's control, anyway) and a number from 1 to 5.

Like
CTRL + 1

If you want to select your whole team as a single squad, press the select all marines button and do assign them to a number.

You can do the same with buildings. I suggest using your squad slots for your obs and armslab, and anything else you need easy access to.

Mac1OMan · July 2005

thx man, it would really help me when im not lookin around base, like im lockin down a hive or dbl and by the time i go back to the base to click the arms or obs to get mt/w1/a1 or whatever then a marine dies because he needs ammo or whatever

it just makes things easier

as for the squad thing... i dont think i would use this, i was just wondering how do i do it

J_the_battlegorge · July 2005

Always keep armslab(s),AA(s),Obs in your squad 1-5.

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