Computer Broke- No Ns For Me! :(
Nimbus5
Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22885Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22885Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">help</div> Here's the specs on my computer:
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Gigabyte mobo
2x512 Kingston pc3200 ram
ATI Radeon 9600xt
Soundblaster Audigy 2
Generic brand 450 watt PSU
Western Digital 250gb HD
Ummm here is my problem. A couple days ago while I was playing NS, my computer shut off. I thought it was because I hit the power button with my foot. Then again, while I was sitting on my computer today, it shut off for absolutely no reason. When I tried to start it back up, it would shut off again after a few seconds. Thinking it might have overheated (overclocked cpu) so I let it sit for a while. Came back to my computer about an hour later, and started it up, entered bios, set all settings back to normal. Got to the login screen, logged on, bam shut off again. This is so much fun. Now it shuts off within seconds of booting up.
So I'm thinking it's the crappy 450W psu. Any thoughts?
I had a similar problem a week ago, where my computer kept restarting during start up. I solved this by disconnecting and reconnecting the hard drive. I don't know if this is related to that at all, but I do know that it is **** me off.
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Gigabyte mobo
2x512 Kingston pc3200 ram
ATI Radeon 9600xt
Soundblaster Audigy 2
Generic brand 450 watt PSU
Western Digital 250gb HD
Ummm here is my problem. A couple days ago while I was playing NS, my computer shut off. I thought it was because I hit the power button with my foot. Then again, while I was sitting on my computer today, it shut off for absolutely no reason. When I tried to start it back up, it would shut off again after a few seconds. Thinking it might have overheated (overclocked cpu) so I let it sit for a while. Came back to my computer about an hour later, and started it up, entered bios, set all settings back to normal. Got to the login screen, logged on, bam shut off again. This is so much fun. Now it shuts off within seconds of booting up.
So I'm thinking it's the crappy 450W psu. Any thoughts?
I had a similar problem a week ago, where my computer kept restarting during start up. I solved this by disconnecting and reconnecting the hard drive. I don't know if this is related to that at all, but I do know that it is **** me off.
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[Edit] I guess you didn't pay for it then...
Which in case could of damamged your Mobo but I doubt it. Pray its only the one thing <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
3200+ clocks at 2.2, i had it to about 2.4. When I try to power it on now, the time in which it takes to shut off seems pretty random. Sometimes I can start all the way up and log on, sometimes it's off after 2 sec.
[edit] and yeah I did pay for it... $200 for new cpu and mobo a couple months ago <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If it looks like this...
<img src='http://www.cobolhacker.com/images/content/burned_athlon.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Then it's bad.
when my brother fried my 1700+ the computer did not start up at all. Hitting power button did nothing.
When my RAM crapped out over a year ago, the computer would turn on, then promptly turn off and the mobo speaker would beep beep beep.
So now I'm having this new problem, but I really don't think the overclocking did anything bad....
I use motherboard monitor to monitor CPU temp in my taskbar. Stays steady pretty much, around 40 C, which is still much lower than my P4 set-up.
First thing you should do is run it bare-bones. Take out all the cards except the video card(take that out too if you have an onboard one) and see if it still happens; you could try taking out each stick of RAM and booting it up with the other after that. Also, if you have another video card or a good power supply handy you could try it with those as well.
i really dont knwo what people go out and get 600 wat psu's, most of the time is is **** quality of power, instead everyone thinks it isnt wnough power
try a new PSU, get a good expensive one, downt matter what power rating so go fo rthe smallest which is probably cheaper and should be fine for power consumption, unless you have coffe warmers and cigarette lighters on your case a comptuer doesnt use much power
i really dont knwo what people go out and get 600 wat psu's, most of the time is is **** quality of power, instead everyone thinks it isnt wnough power
try a new PSU, get a good expensive one, downt matter what power rating so go fo rthe smallest which is probably cheaper and should be fine for power consumption, unless you have coffe warmers and cigarette lighters on your case a comptuer doesnt use much power <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I beg to differ.
With everything in use on my computer all the drives cards etc i use just over 435.65 watts according to the electrical meters and i have a 550 watts psu.
That is alot of power being used. Computers do use alot of power depending on what you have.
If you have little in your computer it won't use much power.
If you have loads like i do in your computer then you can see how much your electric bill goes up by especially if your computer is on 24/7 <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you processor temp is fine then borrow a friends components before buying new ones and see what is the actually problem then you can save your self money by not going out and buying an expensive psu only to find it dont make a difference.
Though in my opinion it sounds like a psu fault even though i have seen the same thing in overheating but last time i saw an overheating protection kick in i had to pull the power out and put it back in again which is why i believe a psu fault both can give the same signs.
2. He said Athlon64, those don't fry for easily. The pic posted above is not an A64, it's some old AMD-core, back at those time most mobo-vendors did not support AMD's instructions on auto-shutdown on high-temperature.
3. Check your CPU temp, check the threshhold on when it'll shut down in bios, compare.
4. Check the voltages your PSU is delivering.
5. Check your DIMMS.
6. Check your cooling on the Northbridge.
Seen it before, fixed it before.
Seen it before, fixed it before. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
How can you promise that? It seems more like it's taken out of your **** just because it happend to you. Look up some technical data on A64 3200+ and Radeon 9600xt and you'll realise the power is hardly an issue.
Simply saying get a 500W PSU isn't promised to help. It's the current they can put through that's what important, staring blindly at the power number isn't going to help. This is what differs between a good PSU and a bad PSU. Their power output can be the same but their total current output differs greatly.
I didn't use one of those i tested each parts usage individually and added the results up to give the max power usuage.
Aah, I see, however you must still have some very powerful system. Do I sense SLI and Prescott? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Seen it before, fixed it before. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How can you promise that? It seems more like it's taken out of your **** just because it happend to you. Look up some technical data on A64 3200+ and Radeon 9600xt and you'll realise the power is hardly an issue.
Simply saying get a 500W PSU isn't promised to help. It's the current they can put through that's what important, staring blindly at the power number isn't going to help. This is what differs between a good PSU and a bad PSU. Their power output can be the same but their total current output differs greatly. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Never happened to me, happened to many other people, when I put the 500 watt in (these aren't exactly top of the line ones I use), the problem went away. Same system specs as his, some with even the 9600 pro. Please, don't attack someone when you know absolutely nothing about them. And please don't use "technical specs" when dealing with computers, they are very rarely accurate.
Edit - The problem he described is 90% usually the Power Supply, the other 10% is a bad ram dimm, or a hard disk/software issue, it can even be caused by his soundcard. Motherboards don't usually allow you to even power on if something goes wrong with them, so thats highly unlikely also. I have repaired computers for the best part of 15 years, I have seen this alot.
Edit 2 - I had at first thought it was an issue with his ram, and the overclock, perhaps it couldn't handle the extra Mhz on the FSB, but the type of ram he is using, not the brand, should be able to handle whatever the NorthBridge can.
I replaced my power supply (even thought it was one with less voltage) and everything was fixed.
The power supply itself could be malfunctioning, remember that, like mine did.
Aah, I see, however you must still have some very powerful system. Do I sense SLI and Prescott? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No just lots of things the gfx card does require its own adapter but i just got lots in her which takes the power.
SLI and Dual core cpu will be my system by the end of the year <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I am not a total idiot when it comes to computers...I swear. I'm not sure how overclocking makes me stupid either, but whatever.
Yeah I had it overclocked but I also am constantly monitoring the temperatures. My computer has been running with this set-up for a little while now in much hotter conditions (before I got a ton of fans for my room) and never experienced any problems. Just about everything in it is less than 3 months old I'd say, except for the PSU, which I purchased a year ago. Also, again as I have already said, I've experienced problems with bad ram, and cpu's overheating but I had never had problems like these before.
I think the most frustrating part about it though is that I had been working for about two hours on a design for a cd cover for this band...I was being a total idiot and had not saved my progress, then as I'm showing the design to my brother, bam it just shuts off. I wanted to murder someone.
probably pick up a PSU in a little bit, that is if any computer stores are even open this late on a sunday
It's a long shot, but I figured I'd mention it anyway. Good Luck.
Swapped in new PSU, works just fine now. Looks like I was right from the beginning.
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