Fades

eyeeye Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7470Members
<div class="IPBDescription">My second most rewarding game.</div> Ok, so there I was, I had joined in the game a little late into it on Tanith. Anyway, when I join the marines hadn’t established a base at a hive yet, so I set off to Waste handling where I knew I might be able to sneak in and take out a hive. Luckily, the aliens hadn’t gotten this far yet because we owned the reactor room. I hopped in there, and in a little while the commander and I set up a small remote base there with an extra CC.

The game goes on, both sides doing a great job, I some how manage to take down both their hives, but sadly they took them back shortly after I killed them. The game progresses like this for about a hour and a half. Then it happens, they take out the original base, followed by the reactor room. So we all retreat back into waste handling and set up spawn portals.

Now here’s where it gets fun. We’re eventually trapped in this room, all my team mates were struggling to set up more torrents, only to be picked down by acid rockets. I get fed up with this after a while and decide to give them the free time they need to get the torrents up. So I respawn, and charge out. I run off head long into three fades, suicide rush, I empty out both LMG and pistol clips, then pull out my knife, I push them waaaay back into another one of their out posts, and some how manage to kill two of the three that were there. I laugh about this, it was funny. I respawn and do the same thing, shoot, switch, shoot, switch, knife. I knifed a fade. I laughed a little harder. Respawn, head out, do the same thing, don’t kill a thing.

Anyway, long story short, the game lasted a whole another 1 hour after they had us on a last stand. I knifed 7 fades, 3 skulks, 1 lurk, and 4 gorges, and this is not counting all the LMG kills I got on fades, it was around 20. I also LMGed an onos after they offence chamber rushed us and set up a hive. By the end, we had no CC, no torrents, one respawn, and no armoire. Yet they STILL could not kill us. They kept rushing in; we kept suicide rushing straight into them. They kept dieing.

So, for all you “fades are over powered” idiots out there, the trick to killing a fade is NOT to try and get it from long range, you’ll get killed easily. However, the trick is to get so close to them that all you can see is fade and your gun and nothing else. They hardly stand a chance, acid rockets hurt them a lot at close range, and if they can’t really see the midget marine zipping around at their feet, they can’t really claw it. So, next time you see a fade, don’t turn tail and run, get right in its face. You may not kill it, but at least it will drive it away and give your team time to rebuild/repair.

Just for fun, lets recap.
Weapon: Knife
Kill status: 7 fades, 3 skulks, 1 lurk, 4 gorges.
Weapon: LMG
Kill status: countless fades, countless skulks, 5 lurks, 1 freshly spawned onos with no backup. (Don’t as me how; the guy must have been an idiot.) And about 15 million gorges. All on the last stand with NO heavy anything, NO jetpack, NO ammo, NO special weapon or weapon upgrades.

Comments

  • ZZZZZZ Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8270Members
    as they say in top gun....
    *cough***obscenity***cough*

    hehe
  • QuantumSlipQuantumSlip Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6318Members
  • nicussnicuss Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8749Members
    maybe them fades didn't know about upgrades and about their claws?
  • ZifZif Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7692Members
    I don't know what kind of fades you were playing, but when I'm a fade, I switch to the good ol' 80 damage claws as soon as the marine gets near me and I rush and kill him. Very fast.
    If he has HA on, it's a little tougher, but any fade worth his salt can slice through lots of light armored marines like a hot knife through butter.

    I congratulate you on your incredible kills, but I can't believe that the vast majority of fade players would be so succeptible.
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    match seems some what familiar to what i had...not sure of the map but i did take out the intire marine base all by myself as a fade XD. Not one marine came in to save it all i saw was sg's being recycled...then as u said marines retreated into the place... maybe it was the same game but i dunno i had to leave after i killed the main marine base <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • HellbillyHellbilly A whole title out of pity... Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3931Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Hehe, enjoyable moment by the sound of it.

    I always try to go into close combat with Fades in desperate situations like these and just stay moving and knifing. Sometimes you get them, sometimes you don´t.

    I just always get yelled at for trying to knife an Onos or Fade, like "Are you stupid or something, trying to knife an Onos!!! (Explicit Language Here) " . I have had my Onos kills with a pistol and a knife so i just ignore the comments and run for glory towards the mammoths...... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    btw. are you eye from PHL?
  • GlobberGlobber Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5397Members
    Hey, it IS possible to knife an Onos, I've done it. Just make sure they are distracted and hope they are down on health <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZR2ZR2 Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2508Members
    Uh...everytime I get close to a fade it rips me a new one. You must be extremely lucky or the people you played against have lost half their brain to exstacy.
  • Stephen_Hawking_RwCStephen_Hawking_RwC Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9572Members
    I think MC Hawking said it best, "I'm going to tear you a new virtual arse-hole*" as a fade.
  • Paladin-XPaladin-X Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8807Banned
    I've found that if a fade starts to retreat, they are low on health, and are running back for a defensive tower. People complain about how the marines are overpowered. Well, yes, they are 'powerful', you just need to know how to play against them. Most of the time when I see a fade running off, I chase after it and kill it. Also, if you empy a clip into a fade, do NOT just try to reload. Pull out you pistol, unload that clip, and then pull out your knife. As soon as you are not attacking, your fade-chow.
  • ChaosDragonChaosDragon Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6938Members
    You sure that was a knife you were using, Eye? Could've been a Samurai Sword by the sound of things. ;)

    But, yeah, i've also made quite a few surprising kills with the knife. Even killed an Onos with it once. I was well pleased. :)

    I reccomend people don't underestimate the knife. It's quite a handy weapon at times. :)
  • devilblocksdevilblocks Join Date: 2002-02-04 Member: 162Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Yup, claws are a fade's best friend. For a nasty fade upgrade your movement speed (celerity) and carapace and you can run though the marines and whack em <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Works fairly well against HA marines too for quick strikes - even better when you catch them reloading.
  • Shrike3OShrike3O Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6678Members, Constellation
    Hey, when a fade backs up his own acid rockets splash off on him... that's ONE way to survive rushing them <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    New players don't have ANY clue how tough a fade is... sort of frightening. I've watched them run away for healing after getting hit 3-4 times with an LMG.
  • ShadowReaperShadowReaper Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6344Members
    yea really, Knive does 30 dmg

    although i would choose a welder over the knive, you have a better chance of hitting than with a knive
  • BolterBolter Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8331Members
    W00t! M@d Skillz

    I'm confused though. How did they get an Ohno out there if you guys were defending waste handling. They actualy built the 3rd hive while you were still spawning? Never seen that, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    edited November 2002
    aye, at 30 damage, it's fun. Though knifing an Onos is a big thing, I'm not sure which is better, knifing an Onos low on health, or knifing a skulk from full. They're fast little guys. Luckily I've done both a couple times <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    and yeah, I don't know how you got away with knifing a few fades... every guy that's gotten near me with a knife might get a couple slices in but soon as my arm through his chest.
  • InjuryInjury Mahou Shoujo Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7992Banned
    High five Gwahir! Onos knifing is my favorite pastime, but only if I run out of ammunition which really makes my favorite pastime moot now that you think about it..

    The answer to close range Fades is the Shotgun, aliens fear that and rightly should. Unfortunately its not used to much in games, rare that a commander will give you a Shotty to lurk around with. Of course, the Shotgun doesn't always work, but it really puts the hurt on most aliens.
  • ekentekent Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7801Members
    It sounds like this guy created a bot that doesn't move or fire but just stands there.

    I've killed HA HMGs as a fade, of course they weren't very skilled but still, it's hard. And if I'm in umbra I could probably take out two HAs.
  • WyndRydreWyndRydre Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5253Members
    hehe I've killed lots of fades just by chasing them down the hall with my shotgun <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • eyeeye Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7470Members
    Oh, don’t get me wrong, they were a pain in the wee buttocks to kill. Sometimes I’d suicide rush three or four times with out a single kill, then other times I’d pop in and cause such a confusion by moving around them so quickly. They wouldn’t even think of running to get health, just kept trying to find me.

    Here’s another tip though, those claws are NASTY yes, but, when a fade charges after you with them, jump to your right or left and duck at the same time, they will fly right past you, then you can just start attacking their feet. In the confusion level is high enough, they will think they just got you and keep trying to do something else.

    I can’t stress that movement is the key to any FPS game. You can have bad aim, as long as you can move better then the person shooting at you, you’re almost safe. Luckily, I was blessed with good movement skills and some-what-good aim.

    And yes, Hillbilly, you lil punk, I am from PHL =) fancy meting you here!
  • TankgugTankgug Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Kill status: countless fades, countless skulks, 5 lurks, 1 freshly spawned onos with no backup.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm confused though. How did they get an Ohno out there if you guys were defending waste handling. They actualy built the 3rd hive while you were still spawning? Never seen that, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah really, I noticed this too. How did they manage to get the 3rd hive up if you were right there? Especially at Waste Handling...
  • QuestionQuestion Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9180Members
    A pointblank acid rocket splash does 2 damage to me whenever im a fade.....

    I dont see how thats "a lot" of damage.
  • eyeeye Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7470Members
    to answer your hive question, the three remaining turrents were backed up agenst the second entrance, they had a team of 10, 5 of which were gorges, they just made a road of offence towers and defence into the hive and set it up. by this point my whole team was suicide rushing with out a CC. really was a neat tactic i thought.
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